Integral Camshafts? heard of them

5erman · 08-08-2010, 04:23 PM

I was randomly searching today and found this Integral race cams for the n52 engine-does not give much info, they are the bronze looking ones on the right side-I would think you need tuning with this

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...26tbs%3Disch:1

kevin@bavarianx · 08-08-2010, 05:12 PM

Depends on how aggressive the lift and duration would be. Race spec cams(high duration) will need engine tuning for idle to be at 1k-1.2k and A/F ratios. Tuning with cams will help make more power as the car would not be running lean with the increase in air.

e90pilot · 08-09-2010, 02:31 PM

I don't get it. This is yes another company that sells some sort of mod that is expensive and potentially destructive and has no teat car or dyno sheets or any proof of concept. It's like they just make up some values and spit out a cam and hope it works. Customers need a little more assurance than "expertise" before they drop a few grand on a mod that could damage their car.

Gavin@MMW · 08-09-2010, 03:03 PM

Exactly, I called them and got no answer, I dropped an email over to see whats up

5erman · 08-09-2010, 04:11 PM

Well the thing is its not expensive-its like 600 bucks or somethin (cheap as far as cams go if you compare to rdsport anyway) Tuning is a non issue as that can be taken care of-I am no tuner and have no access to a shop-but if I were craven I would try these and play around with your gintani tunes-with this increased capacity for lift you could really rake out some hp-

600 seems very reasonable.

That is what is surprising-cams are way easy to make-if you are a cam shop-I mean to improve on the ones we have, you can take advantage of the fact we have vanos and VVT and simply make the maximum lift higher and the vvt can limit that lift when needed but for max rpms it could open even more-

This is the mod with a 7500 rpm redline that I need-

Gavin@MMW · 08-09-2010, 04:54 PM

well hopefully they get back to me, and we will see what the story is

e90ben · 08-09-2010, 05:56 PM

Its not really a $600 mod, Id say you are closer to $1200 just for the cams w/o tuning

Whats the booktime for a remove and replace of the cams?

Id imagine you'd need to consider upgrading valve springs as well too. Does Ferrara or anyone even make valve springs for the N52?

IMHO this is a $2000+ upgrade if you do it properly

kevin@bavarianx · 08-11-2010, 07:38 PM

I have done camshafts to my M3 and from a reputable shop it would be atleast $600. Valvetrain upgrade(valve spring, collars, and retainer) would be another $700. So Ben is right that it would be a $2k mod.

Gavin@MMW · 08-12-2010, 12:08 PM

No word yet..

DimSum · 08-12-2010, 04:40 PM

RD Sport has cam's for the N52.

https://racingdynamics.com/eStore/in...405290301.html

Jaspaa · 08-12-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DimSum

RD Sport has cam's for the N52.

https://racingdynamics.com/eStore/in...405290301.html

Doubt they do - they can't provide nor dyno nor ANY kind of information about those camshafts at all.
Same with those Integral camshafts so far

kbird · 11-20-2010, 02:17 AM

I am looking for cams for my 130i race car. The RD Sport cams are supposed to give 26 -28hp with a re map but are £5000 ($8000)!! Did you ever get a response from Integral?

AlpineSwift · 11-28-2010, 12:49 AM

My guess is no.

BlackBimmer1991 · 11-28-2010, 09:45 AM

bump for updates

pittyinSC · 11-29-2010, 08:40 PM

Seems like this is a reputable company, as far as mazda miatas go. They are
built right here in the US as well.Seeing as I am still in warranty, I'm not planning on doing this, but if someone wants to why not give them a ring?

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5erman Banned 35 Rep 323 Posts Drives: black 5 series Join Date: May 2009 Location: ohio iTrader: (0)	Integral Camshafts? heard of them I was randomly searching today and found this Integral race cams for the n52 engine-does not give much info, they are the bronze looking ones on the right side-I would think you need tuning with this http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...26tbs%3Disch:1
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kevin@bavarianx Banned 33 Rep 812 Posts Drives: E36 M3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brea, CA iTrader: (3)	Depends on how aggressive the lift and duration would be. Race spec cams(high duration) will need engine tuning for idle to be at 1k-1.2k and A/F ratios. Tuning with cams will help make more power as the car would not be running lean with the increase in air.
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e90pilot Freight Dawg 104 Rep 2,103 Posts Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oakland, CA iTrader: (3)	I don't get it. This is yes another company that sells some sort of mod that is expensive and potentially destructive and has no teat car or dyno sheets or any proof of concept. It's like they just make up some values and spit out a cam and hope it works. Customers need a little more assurance than "expertise" before they drop a few grand on a mod that could damage their car. __________________ --Marcelo '06 Arctic Metallic 325i \| Sport Package \| 6MT \| Dinan Stage III suspension \| Dinan exhaust \| 330i manifold swap! Click here! \| Active Autowerke tune \| 135i Brake Calipers \| Deiselboost caliper brackets \| E46 M3 front rotors
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Gavin@MMW Brigadier General 406 Rep 3,879 Posts Drives: MMW Supercharged E90 328i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 818/805 iTrader: (18)	Exactly, I called them and got no answer, I dropped an email over to see whats up
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5erman Banned 35 Rep 323 Posts Drives: black 5 series Join Date: May 2009 Location: ohio iTrader: (0)	Well the thing is its not expensive-its like 600 bucks or somethin (cheap as far as cams go if you compare to rdsport anyway) Tuning is a non issue as that can be taken care of-I am no tuner and have no access to a shop-but if I were craven I would try these and play around with your gintani tunes-with this increased capacity for lift you could really rake out some hp- 600 seems very reasonable. That is what is surprising-cams are way easy to make-if you are a cam shop-I mean to improve on the ones we have, you can take advantage of the fact we have vanos and VVT and simply make the maximum lift higher and the vvt can limit that lift when needed but for max rpms it could open even more- This is the mod with a 7500 rpm redline that I need-
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Gavin@MMW Brigadier General 406 Rep 3,879 Posts Drives: MMW Supercharged E90 328i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 818/805 iTrader: (18)	well hopefully they get back to me, and we will see what the story is
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e90ben Lieutenant 27 Rep 552 Posts Drives: No more Beemer Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (7)	Its not really a $600 mod, Id say you are closer to $1200 just for the cams w/o tuning Whats the booktime for a remove and replace of the cams? Id imagine you'd need to consider upgrading valve springs as well too. Does Ferrara or anyone even make valve springs for the N52? IMHO this is a $2000+ upgrade if you do it properly
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kevin@bavarianx Banned 33 Rep 812 Posts Drives: E36 M3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brea, CA iTrader: (3)	I have done camshafts to my M3 and from a reputable shop it would be atleast $600. Valvetrain upgrade(valve spring, collars, and retainer) would be another $700. So Ben is right that it would be a $2k mod.
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DimSum Banned 202 Rep 2,740 Posts Drives: SLOW Join Date: May 2008 Location: LITTLEBIMMER.COM iTrader: (10)	RD Sport has cam's for the N52. https://racingdynamics.com/eStore/in...405290301.html
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kbird Private 43 Rep 62 Posts Drives: M3 GT4 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Somerset, UK iTrader: (0)	I am looking for cams for my 130i race car. The RD Sport cams are supposed to give 26 -28hp with a re map but are £5000 ($8000)!! Did you ever get a response from Integral?
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