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      09-05-2010, 08:18 PM   #1
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Angry Limited Production? = Widespread Panic!

I need to confirm if this Limited Production nonsense is true. Honestly, I think its b.s. but I wanna know. Scott, your input as always would be greatly appreciated on this topic.
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You really think that it were marketing hoopla, that Scott would tell you?

Btw, the 1 series were outed as limited production, back in 2007, when I ordered mine.
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It seems it's a limited production car of only 1.500 units worldwide.
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It seems it's a limited production car of only 1.500 units worldwide.
thats what im afraid of looks like ill be calling the dealer early next year.
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thats what they said about the M Coupe, i still got mine and had Production number #118 Already put the word into my dealership. GM says I get the first allocation YAY!!!!!!!!!!!
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I need to confirm if this Limited Production nonsense is true. Honestly, I think its b.s. but I wanna know. Scott, your input as always would be greatly appreciated on this topic.
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I hope that my "my car is causing a lot of issues for everybody" card will get me into one with minimal pain
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Purposefully low production runs is one of the tackiest strategies a motor company can pull on its customers. No matter who does it.
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Lets not forget that the original e30 M3 was also a "limited production" car of 500 units. But BMW kept making more & more of the Evo models bc of demand.

e30 M3 Production figures
Model Power (kW) Coupe and Sedan Convertible

Euro model 143.5 kW (195 PS; 192 hp) / 147 kW (200 PS; 197 hp) 8,661
US model 143.5 kW (195 PS; 192 hp) 4,996
Evo 1 147 kW (200 PS; 197 hp) 505
Europa late model 158 kW (215 PS; 212 hp) 1,519
Evo 2 162 kW (220 PS; 217 hp) 500
Convertible 143.5 kW (195 PS; 192 hp) / 158 kW (215 PS; 212 hp) 786
Sport Evolution 175 kW (238 PS; 235 hp) 600
Sport Evolution Convertible 175 kW (238 PS; 235 hp) 1
Europameister
(all signed by Roberto Ravaglia) 143.5 kW (195 PS; 192 hp) 148
Cecotto
25 as special edition Ravaglia
50 as Cecotto Switzerland (throttled to 155 kW)
158 kW (215 PS; 212 hp) 505
Total ~18,000

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bmw_m3
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Everybody needs to start sending Dr Segler emails and letters letting him know what you think of limited production.
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Dont be silly

The 1 series M is supposed to be the "affordable" M vehicle. Therefore, BMW are tapping into potentially a new market. On this basis, do you seriously believe they are going to limit production on this vehicle? Only limit is going to be factory producing the number of these car per month and when they decide to stop production on the vehicle due to the launch of the new 1 series.
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The 1 series M is supposed to be the "affordable" M vehicle. Therefore, BMW are tapping into potentially a new market. On this basis, do you seriously believe they are going to limit production on this vehicle? Only limit is going to be factory producing the number of these car per month and when they decide to stop production on the vehicle due to the launch of the new 1 series.
Thats what I thought listening to Dr Segler's speech on the 1M, but you never know what rediculous ideas come from the BOSSES up top. I hope we are correct and BMW builds as many as they can sell. But just in case, lets bitch about it!!!!!
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Lets not forget that the original e30 M3 was also a "limited production" car of 500 units. But BMW kept making more & more of the Evo models bc of demand.

e30 M3 Production figures
Model Power (kW) Coupe and Sedan Convertible

Euro model 143.5 kW (195 PS; 192 hp) / 147 kW (200 PS; 197 hp) 8,661
US model 143.5 kW (195 PS; 192 hp) 4,996
Evo 1 147 kW (200 PS; 197 hp) 505
Europa late model 158 kW (215 PS; 212 hp) 1,519
Evo 2 162 kW (220 PS; 217 hp) 500
Convertible 143.5 kW (195 PS; 192 hp) / 158 kW (215 PS; 212 hp) 786
Sport Evolution 175 kW (238 PS; 235 hp) 600
Sport Evolution Convertible 175 kW (238 PS; 235 hp) 1
Europameister
(all signed by Roberto Ravaglia) 143.5 kW (195 PS; 192 hp) 148
Cecotto
25 as special edition Ravaglia
50 as Cecotto Switzerland (throttled to 155 kW)
158 kW (215 PS; 212 hp) 505
Total ~18,000

source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bmw_m3
I think you meant to say 5,000 examples. That was the number needed for homologation.

http://www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=8


Why is the E30 M3 considered a homologation model?
The main impetus for the E30 M3’s existence was Group A racing, a production-based class that demanded that each race car share its core mechanical components with a road car, of which at least 5,000 examples had to be produced. Thus, BMW Motorsport designed the race car first, then applied the necessary changes to the road car in order to homologate the competition machine. The E30 M3 street version and E30 M3 competition version are therefore quite similar. For example, the widened fenders were needed to accommodate racing rubber on the competition cars but were not necessary for the more modest tires of the street version. However, fender width had to be identical between the road and race versions, so both share the same flared arches.
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im sure they will make as many as ppl will buy. i doubt it will be an issue in the US. the only thing limited is the 2yr lifespan.
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im sure they will make as many as ppl will buy. i doubt it will be an issue in the US. the only thing limited is the 2yr lifespan.
I agree 100% in the interview the boss said they want to make the car affordable.....affordable=no limited production. Limited production=very expensive.
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I dont think anyone should worry or buy into dealer's sales tactic that it's a limited production vehicle. Even if it is, relatively to other models, controversial design and end of run platform make 1M a niche market vehicle.
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im sure they will make as many as ppl will buy. i doubt it will be an issue in the US. the only thing limited is the 2yr lifespan.
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I need to confirm if this Limited Production nonsense is true. Honestly, I think its b.s. but I wanna know.
It's limited to only 2,500 cars world wide for now.
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It seems it's a limited production car of only 1.500 units worldwide.
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It's limited to only 2,500 cars world wide for now.

Where are people coming up with these numbers? Scott, are you there?
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Where are people coming up with these numbers? Scott, are you there?
Good question ... I still believe they're not going to limit the number of cars, but they're going to limit the production period to something like 2 years.
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Where are people coming up with these numbers? Scott, are you there?
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