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      11-11-2010, 09:45 AM   #1
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my friend wants to race me in 2 weeks when he gets back from new york. He has a stock isF and i have a stock 335i what do i need to keep up with him or just beat him
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Just a tune and intake should take car of him. But i i think for under $900 you could have 400 whp lets see...........


Jb3- $350
DCI-$100
Meth-$250
installation-$200

So for $850 you could have 40whp more than he has and your lighter...CHow
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my friend wants to race me in 2 weeks when he gets back from new york. He has a stock isF and i have a stock 335i what do i need to keep up with him or just beat him
i was behind one the other day which was driven by someone who looked to be around 19 years old, i have a procede v4 on map 2 and a bms intake installed. i have an exhaust and dp's in the garage but didnt put them on yet. we took off, he was in front of me the whole time before we even began going at it, he floored the gas and vapor came from his exhaust pipe and blew straight at my windshield. he wasnt really getting away from me, but i was behind him the whole time...then i rolled up my tinted windows and put my head down in shame...yea, you need what i have in the car/garage plus a FMIC. keep in mind the price difference between the 2.
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      11-11-2010, 10:33 AM   #9
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Idk what you guys are on about, but the ISF really isn't very fast. A tuned 335i will win if it has bolt ons, but don't expect it to be easy...
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I believe that with a good tune, dp's, dci, fmic, you should walk away from him quite easily. Dp's are a big determining factor here. You wont have a chance if you retain all 4 cats. Your post turbo flow rates are simply to restricted. meaning you cant support higher boost that you NEED to beat him...If you go from a dead stop I believe could help you quite a bit bc that thing is a boat. I have a buddy running very similar numbers in his 05 cts-v and I beat him from a dead stop and he got me top end...(current mods were: afe dci, aa exhaust, aa bov, jb3(map 5), and 9.5inch sticky ps2's in the rear, non-rft.) most people discount how much non-rft's really help. In my experience they make a HUGE difference because of how much tq the n54's have. Before I had the bridgestone rft's and THEY BLOW, all I did was spin in first and midway through second. If you cant put all that power to the ground it aint worth a shit. In the next two week's my car will be fully bolted plus some extra cooling goodies. (full list of mods will be, HPF fmic, aa bov, afe dci, ar catless downpipes, ar 2nd oil cooler, ar oil catch can, aa catless exhaust, Procede v4, and to put all that power to the ground vmr vb3's 8.5's in the front and 9.5's in the rear, wrapped in pilot sport ps2's) That setup would shit on the (stock)IS-F, I can garuntee you that. If I find one I will certainly post some videos. But in the mean time you can check out youtube and see some 335's and 1'ers take on the is-f. some successful and some not so successful. Good luck bro, hope this helps.
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I've raced an isf with an exhuast and 100 shot of nitrous and I won easily
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Im with Brey, I wasn't overly impressed with my isf run in. Running my daily driven map 7, I was able to pull on one pretty well with just jb3 & dci.
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tune, intake, dp, exhaust, fmic and its a guaranteed win
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      11-11-2010, 11:14 AM   #14
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i think a tune and intake and you should be good.....you could always do meth for the forsure win
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I thought the ISF and M3 were about equal and see many vids of tuned 335s pulling on them (m3s) or pretty much even depending on who got the jump. I raced one (m3) map 5, DCi with a little mix and could hang for a minute but no doubt he was faster.

Full mods with some good gas and who knows their pretty strong.
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I thought the ISF and M3 were about equal and see many vids of tuned 335s pulling on them (m3s) or pretty much even depending on who got the jump. I raced one (m3) map 5, DCi with a little mix and could hang for a minute but no doubt he was faster.

Full mods with some good gas and who knows their pretty strong.
isf is faster then an m3.....the isf also raced the m3 that had all of active autowerkes stuff but the supercharger and lost easy against the isf without spray. I raced both of them and the m3 was in last place by far
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ISFs shift ridiculously quick, near DCT territory. You will need full bolt-ons @ 16psi to run close to even with one, and top end they will still pull on you. If you run FBO+meth at an insane boost level, then yes you will destroy an ISF
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      11-11-2010, 11:21 AM   #18
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Map 7 on jb3 with dci is more than enough buddy , is-f is not quick at all , with meth dp fmic tune you can pull cas that are much quicker than is-f or you can pull is-f by bus lanes
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ISFs shift ridiculously quick, near DCT territory. You will need full bolt-ons @ 16psi to run close to even with one, and top end they will still pull on you. If you run FBO+meth at an insane boost level, then yes you will destroy an ISF
+1 top end on a isf is much better then our cars but they have a governor at 150 or so
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+1 top end on a isf is much better then our cars but they have a governor at 150 or so
So do we. non-sport at 130, sport at 155... unless you have an SLD or Procede
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FWIW I took down an ISF on a 50-120 mph roll (without meth)...it was almost too easy. Maybe he wasnt on the right gear (remember that they have 8).
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ISFs shift ridiculously quick, near DCT territory. You will need full bolt-ons @ 16psi to run close to even with one, and top end they will still pull on you. If you run FBO+meth at an insane boost level, then yes you will destroy an ISF
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