[CoopersE90]

What with police interceptors etc on the telly, a lot of relatively new cars which presumably have modern alarm and immobilisers etc and are presumably not stolen with keys, getting TWOC and going for joy rides, so I just wondered if it is easy for your average to$$er to overcome the immobiliser on BMWs or are they bullet proof?

Hopefully not too naiive and stupid question!!

Cheers

CE90

[xenon]

I'd say in most cases they are stolen with keys.

[M3-FAST]

+1 - near on impossible to steal a modern car without them

(certainly not an opportunist 'joy riding' theft)

[ihpj]

Originally Posted by M3-FAST

+1 - near on impossible to steal a modern car without them

+1 - In general and in most circumstances that is quite true. On the other, it takes a deal of money and technology to do so and is not within the remit of the every day Scroat.

Many are taken when left idling on the driveway

[CoopersE90]

Fair enough, gives me peace of mind when leaving it parked up - never tend to park in dodgy areas but sometimes you have no choice - so the only thing to worry about is being broken in to

[m1bjr]

Don't forget that anyone you leave the car and key with 'could' do something unethical with it.
Like add new keys etc.

An often overlooked aspect of servicing or repairs.
And knowing a few dodgy feckers in body shops and dealerships in past years, Im not surprised at the odd 'mystery' theft.

Some cars are remarkably simple to steal anyhow.
A few cases where Evos have been taken.
The ECU was disconnected and another plugged in - complete with the programmed key so you can just drive away.

Think about it - it's not rocket science.

So to say its almost impossible is VERY wide of the mark

[script]

For the opportunist its near impossible but the determined will take it,tow it or whatever it takes.

[Billyray911]

Originally Posted by m1bjr

Don't forget that anyone you leave the car and key with 'could' do something unethical with it.
Like add new keys etc.

An often overlooked aspect of servicing or repairs.
And knowing a few dodgy feckers in body shops and dealerships in past years, Im not surprised at the odd 'mystery' theft.

Some cars are remarkably simple to steal anyhow.
A few cases where Evos have been taken.
The ECU was disconnected and another plugged in - complete with the programmed key so you can just drive away.

Think about it - it's not rocket science.

So to say its almost impossible is VERY wide of the mark

Totally agree-lots of modern cars are suprisingly easy to steal and the above has been the mosy popular for years now.Link this with a tracker jammer and you're good to go.
I had a blackjax fitted to mine,instead of going the tracker route,a month or so ago,for some peace of mind!!!

[doughboy]

The easiest way to steal any car is to break into the house, club the owners and take the keys.

Forget tracker jammers and ecu's and all that bullshit. Just use the keys! Much easier.

[craig2859]

Originally Posted by doughboy

The easiest way to steal any car is to break into the house, club the owners and take the keys.

Forget tracker jammers and ecu's and all that bullshit. Just use the keys! Much easier.

Sadly this is true, and your average to$$er knows this too ..... and seeing as though they aint too bright, a clubbing for a set of keys is the easy route.


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[Bmw335cic]

nearly impossible