[persian54]

I got the HPFP recall done on the Z4 last month so it would prevent any possible HPFP problems...
The Z4 was running strong, no bad starts, no long cranks.
But the dealer kept calling so i took the Z4 in

well... a month later:





I knew I shouldn't have had them fix something that wasn't broken.


I'm going to talk to my lemon lawyer and see what he says. This is the first engine malfunction this car has had while we've had it, but the previous leas had it happen to him.
Under CA Lemon Law, 2 unsafe issues is warrant for a lemon.

I mean the car is great and all...but I'm tired of all these damn engine malfunctions and crap. even my friend with a 335iS got the half engine light the other week.

Note: Z4 has been fully stock since Nov, and has gone through various dealer Software updates and a recent HPFP+software recall. Thus, nothing can be related to any mods as there are no engine mods.


I mean, a lot of times I miss my old modded 335i with all of it's power etc... and I miss e90post too... but god damn it these engine problems are sugh a PITA. My M3 has had no problems like this at all.

/Rant

[Eric335]

ouch..... hope you get it resolved and back on the road

[BMW4Life2112]

Best of luck to you, thanks for the info.

[roadkillrob]

You should trade it for a nice reliable Toyota or Honda! I would rather enjoy driving my car 98% of the time, then have one that works 100% of the time, but sucks to drive! Better knock wood on your M3, they haven't exactly been problem free or cheap to repair over the years either!

[RaceBlood]

How do you know that Warning has anything to do with the HPFP? Seriously? What Code was thrown? Add to this its under warranty, so chill out.

if you would rather wait for the HPFP to have long cranks, stall and go into limp mode while your driving at night in the rain, then by all means, ignore the Recall notice, its your choice.

[persian54]

Originally Posted by doubleclutch

I don't know why you are crying. Your car is covered, dealer is going to pay for everything. You will get a loaner. Two mishaps and people are already calling their legal representatives...only in America. There are people out there who have to pay for repairs out of pocket...

Right... so just because it's covered it means I shouldn't complain...

I had this crap a lot on my 335i.

Well, those who keep these cars out of warranty, IMHO, are not playing it safe. I will never keep any car out of warranty, let alone one as unreliable as the N54. However, you shouldn't have to pay for it as the HPFP warranty has been extended to 120k mi.

Originally Posted by RaceBlood

How do you know that Warning has anything to do with the HPFP? Seriously? What Code was thrown? Add to this its under warranty, so chill out.

if you would rather wait for the HPFP to have long cranks, stall and go into limp mode while your driving at night in the rain, then by all means, ignore the Recall notice, its your choice.

I have a BT Cable... this isn't my first N54... My 335i had several failures (when stock)

Just cause warranty covers something doesn't make it excusable.

My M3 has been engine problem free and I've tracked it several times, kept the RPMs are 8k for consistent periods.

My mom babies the Z4 and the damn thing breaks.

Whether BMW will fix it or not is not the issue. the Issue is that this stuff keeps happening.

When i had not done the recall, the car was fine, no CEL, no nothing.

I get the recall done and a week later I have a CEL, I scan it and it's 02 sensor codes. I take it in they say it was an error and nothing is wrong.

and a couple weeks later this happens.

Point is the car only has 16k mi on it and this stuff is happening. The car has had a total of 3 HPFP done.

My friend's 335iS has a CEL... hmm guess those still haven't been fixed?

I wonder how long it'll take before the 1M guys get the famous half engine light....


O and the response on e90post vs m3post... amazing on different it is

I'm not saying the N54 is a bad engine; far from it. It's an amazing engine with limitless possibilities.
however, it is very very unreliable. I have been stranded by my 335i in the past (stock and modded), and been stranded once by the Z4.

Now tell me, when you buy a 63k car, do you expect to get stranded?

No.

My 996 Turbo never left me stranded; my 986 didn't either; my S420 didn't, nor did my C230. Hell not even the CTS broke down on me.
my mom's previous SLK300 no problems; our C350 no problems; my moms old S430 no problems; my brothers old S430 had problems but that thing had 160K+ mi on it.
Nor has any of our Camrys, Sentra, or other non-luxury cars.

But our R class was a complete POS. was in service for 2 months straight... too bad we didn't know about the lemon law back then... thing kept breaking down.

I've owned my share of cars.... and the N54, although very fun to drive, great around town and on the track, has by far been the least reliable and the most troublesome engine I have ever owned

[PeteW84]

Why did you get another N54, since you already had one with so many problems?

[persian54]

Originally Posted by Pete84

Why did you get another N54, since you already had one with so many problems?

Lease takeover.

My mom has always wanted a Z4.

We were going to order her a brand new Z4 30i, but a well equipped one at the time would have costed us about $2k drive off, 730/month

We were able to get this for $548 lease transfer fee, $649.99/month. 63k MSRP.
35i with every option except prem sound.
Hard to pass up a better equipped car for less $.

Also, my main rant is that the car was running great BEFORE I did the recall.

After I did the recall, I got a CEL a week later and now this... Although I'm mad at it in general, this is my biggest pet peeve and problem.

[WesleyC]

Stop complaining.

[username604]

i'd just like to say that i love my n54. maybe that'll change when something goes wrong down the road.

[evodz]

Sorry to hear that, but let me just say, your rant is VALID. Don't understand why people like unreliable things just because they don't have to pay for repairs?

[jaco]

shit happens and move on. I'll take some HPFP issues to have a car I enjoy to drive. My Acura TL was BORING!

[RaceBlood]

Well if you have a BT cable, and you know what code was thrown, why didnt you say it, and is the code thrown for the fuel pump?

secondly, if your mister bmw lover, you should be the last one to complain about the N54? seriously, its history is well documented, deal with it.

its not like the turbo/wastegate failed, and you have a warranty, whats the problem?

Buy a Honda..cars have issues, its nothing new.

[Quasimodem]

Was the N57 not available when you got your N54?

[tibra1]

Originally Posted by doubleclutch

I don't know why you are crying. Your car is covered, dealer is going to pay for everything. You will get a loaner. Two mishaps and people are already calling their legal representatives...only in America. There are people out there who have to pay for repairs out of pocket...

+1..

10 year warranty on HPFP..what are you worried about?

[persian54]

Originally Posted by jaco

shit happens and move on. I'll take some HPFP issues to have a car I enjoy to drive. My Acura TL was BORING!

Well, both Porsches were very enjoyable cars.

I don't understand why people say go buy a honda/acura/toyota?

I've owned BMWs, Porsches, and Mercedes, along side having Toyotas/Hondas/American cars in my family.

So are you saying that only BMWs are cars you enjoy driving? For you can't enjoy driving a Porsche? or a Merc?
A Porsche is a much more enjoyable car to drive than any BMW, period. However, it's a horrible daily driver compared to a BMW, and thus not something I wanted to have right now (though i will get another one in the future).

So again I must ask... what's with this "to get a honda" or "I'd rather enjoy the car and have it be unreliable" statements coming from?
I've enjoyed the Porsches, the Mercs, and my M3 without such unreliability.

Originally Posted by RaceBlood

secondly, if your mister bmw lover, you should be the last one to complain about the N54? seriously, its history is well documented, deal with it.

its not like the turbo/wastegate failed, and you have a warranty, whats the problem?

Buy a Honda..cars have issues, its nothing new.

See this post:

Originally Posted by evodz

Sorry to hear that, but let me just say, your rant is VALID. Don't understand why people like unreliable things just because they don't have to pay for repairs?

Originally Posted by doubleclutch

Well at least you have done one thing right and thats never owning bmw out of warranty. Audi's 2.7t in the s4/a6 had many problems as well. Why not just go back to MB. Your family has owned enough of them

Mercs aren't enough of a driver's car, but the new CLS 63 is amazing...
I was going to get a C63 (or GTR) but I wanted a hard top convertible.
Only company with a high performance hard top vert is BMW.
Plus, I've always wanted a M3 even if the M3 is slower than my 335i was.

Originally Posted by tibra1

+1..

10 year warranty on HPFP..what are you worried about?

Car's lease is over in about 8 months. Warranty means nothing. Having it fixed isn't the issue.

The issue is that THE CAR WORKED BEFORE The Recall was performed.
And is now having problems after their so called 'fix'

I guess you guys don't read posts before responding huh?

I forgot how different the crowd on m3post was versus e90post...

[kmarei]

just think of it as training for the next M3 (if they use a N54/N55)

[rhodesman]

to the OP: I here you, it is a PITA. Constant trips to the dealer is not how I want to enjoy my cars. I get my 335 back from a HPFP, diverter valves and solenoid fail tomorrow (they say). The car will then drive the 14 miles to the nearest carmax and I will say goodbye. I'm tired of these constant issues. The car itself is great, the n54 engine though has put me off owning another. Sadly I may never return to BMW as it looks like the vast majority of future cars will be turboed.

To all who don't have any issues with their N54 engines, consider yourself lucky. I thought I was out of the woods due to no issues for 50k miles, I was wrong.

[persian54]

Originally Posted by kmarei

just think of it as training for the next M3 (if they use a N54/N55)

I'm hoping for a S65 bi turbo! lol

[Bobble]

I hear you, same issue here. No issues, did recall and then issues. Trying to work it out with BMWNA but they take their sweet time, quote you 5 to 7 business days and call back every 10 saying they are still working on it. BTW in Cali you really do not have much choice on doing the recall, since it's emission related, they can flag the Vin and force you to prove the recall before allowing registration so to those who say why did you do it, probably would have had it sooner than later. And also yes there's a warranty but when you have to take time out of your day etc to bring it in get a loaner etc it's a hassle. I'm self employed time away from clients equal no income and the BMW center's are not as accomdating as in the past IE flat bed pick up and delivery. Good luck OP.

[tibra1]

Originally Posted by persian54

The issue is that THE CAR WORKED BEFORE The Recall was performed.
And is now having problems after their so called 'fix'

I guess you guys don't read posts before responding huh?

I forgot how different the crowd on m3post was versus e90post...

No i prefer to post blindly w/o reading..

im just tired of hearing the same bitching and moaning about the HPFP, recall, oh my car is not working..blah blah blah..thats the world of cars man..roll up ur sleeves and get to work...or in this case just bring it back to dealer...what r u worried about?

[Edward]

so much anger