[Candy 01]

Hi guy's,
I have finally put a deposit down on a 2007 335d e92. I had a tight budget of around the 16k mark so was really looking for higher mileage example's. So i went to view this-
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2899531.htm

I got him down to £15750 the alloy's need a refurb and it needs a detail to get rid of the light scratches around the car. Apart from that it seemed fine. I will be getting a inspection on it by a bmw specialist garage or AA.

I just wanted members opinions if I'm taking a huge risk with buying a 335d with 120,000 miles the clock.??
He has a warranty with warranty direct as he said BMW warranty didn't cover as much as warranty direct did due to the high mileage of the car...don't know how true that is.

P.s i have read the thread about the high mileage 335i and it didn't look to good. But if it's the same with the 335d i couldn't bare the repair cost's.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=534418 (335i high mileage thread)

Any advice would be very greatfull as i can't make my mind up.

[edowen]

braver than me. I think the warranty comment is pish - bmw wouldn't warrant a car with that mileage in the first place.

Personally I can think of better ways to spend £16k that attract far less risk of expense.

[Candy 01]

Originally Posted by edowen

braver than me. I think the warranty comment is pish - bmw wouldn't warrant a car with that mileage in the first place.

Personally I can think of better ways to spend £16k that attract far less risk of expense.

I can't get a 335d for that sort of money though but on the same hand don't want to be buying a lemon. I could still leave it as i've only gave the guy a £100 deposit it's better than paying for a car with huge problems............????

[MEGA]

It will be most likely be fine bud. It's the HPFP issues that stuff the 335i. Caking up the internals over time. Not an issue on the derg. All you need to do is get a thorough inspection done. The engine will take 200k no bother at all, so it's the ancilleries to think about. In particular the boost hoses, and then wear and tear items.

The big risk is the auto box giving up. That's the only really high profile component I would consider going as the mileage really racks up. Assuming it has FSH that is?

[Hotcoupe]

Originally Posted by Candy 01

He has a warranty with warranty direct as he said BMW warranty didn't cover as much as warranty direct did due to the high mileage of the car...don't know how true that is.

I'd study the T&C's of the warranty and find out exactly what parts are covered, specifically the turbos, DPF, gearbox etc.
How much is he paying a year for the warranty? is it a mthly payment? if it's mthly, is it affordable,does it make sense financially?

Personally speaking and based on experience, I wouldn't have a WD policy even if someone else was paying the premium!

Has the car got demonstrable BMW service history?

I'd tend to agree with Edowens comment -
"I think the warranty comment is pish"

[Candy 01]

Originally Posted by MEGA

It will be most likely be fine bud. It's the HPFP issues that stuff the 335i. Caking up the internals over time. Not an issue on the derg. All you need to do is get a thorough inspection done. The engine will take 200k no bother at all, so it's the ancilleries to think about. In particular the boost hoses, and then wear and tear items.

The big risk is the auto box giving up. That's the only really high profile component I would consider going as the mileage really racks up. Assuming it has FSH that is?

Yea i was thinking the same thing when i had a look at it, but i wouldn't want parts failing left right and center on it. I've heard the 335d's are pretty bullet proof. It does have full BMW service history.

Originally Posted by Hotcoupe

I'd study the T&C's of the warranty and find out exactly what parts are covered, specifically the turbos, DPF, gearbox etc.
How much is he paying a year for the warranty? is it a mthly payment? if it's mthly, is it affordable,does it make sense financially?

Personally speaking and based on experience, I wouldn't have a WD policy even if someone else was paying the premium!

Has the car got demonstrable BMW service history?

I'd tend to agree with Edowens comment -
"I think the warranty comment is pish"

Yea iam going to have a look at it now. Why are warranty direct so crap? members had bad experience's with them?

[Hotcoupe]

Originally Posted by Candy 01

It does have full BMW service history.
Yea iam going to have a look at it now. Why are warranty direct so crap? members had bad experience's with them?

Good start on the service history

WD - very long & boring story.
Just google - Warranty Direct!

[jonl1983]

i wouldnt be too worried so long as it has been carefully looked after and they are genuine motorway miles. ive had mine just over 2 years from new and have put 62K on it on motorway miles and it still pulls as good as it did the day i picked it up. Have had a few issues but these have been common issues (oil leak onto boost hose). Only major fault has been a gearbox replacement, however, speaking to the master tech at the garage that fixed it and one of the head service guys at bracknell they had not had a gearbox failure on a 335d before and considered my mileage to be low.

So long as the car has been looked after id go for it. i would suggest 6k intervals on the oil change though. Ive done this from new on mine

[briers]

I wouldn't worry too much

I've seen 335d's with 170k on the clock with no obvious problems.

If the DPF hasn't been changed it might go any time.

The gearbox should be "sealed" for life but 120k is around the sweet spot for a fluid change. You will need to get this done independently.

Have a look at the idrive to see what servicing is due.

If you are on a tight budget, check the tyres as these can be quite expensive especially if they are runflats.

From what i have seen of 335d repairs if something goes it's either a vacuum hose, oil return hose, actuator or rarely, a turbo. DPF is a limited life part and i think thats about 1k replacement, maybe cheaper from an indie. I'm sure if you have 1 - 2k stashed you will be fine. Not a great outlay really. Don't count on the warranty, have a little spare just in case.

But chances are, this was a motorway mile car, running 120k miles in 4 years. Means it spent most of its life at 2k RPM which is miles better than being a town run around.

[dxb335d]

For that money you can get half that mileage! I had 65k on mine. 65k of hard
miles. She was sweet as a nut, no problems and no squeeks or rattles with the interior. Although i rekon at double that it might.

Check it don't squeek or rattle inside.

Personally I think you should look for 80k or below?!

[Candy 01]

Thanks for all your quick response's. I've been worrying about this all night and i've come to the conclusion (with the help of all the knowledgeable members on here) that if I'm not a 100% sure on the car i shouldn't really be buying it, as 16k is allot of hard earned cash to be gambling with. Just phoned the guy up and asked if he was ok with refunding my deposit and he was happy to do so. The guy was very genuine and helpful but i couldn't really get to gripe's with owning a car with 120,000 on it. I'm still going to be carrying on my search for a 335d with under 70k wish me luck .

On a positive note it was the first time i had test drove a 335d and was amazed by the power out put. It was so effortless to drove had to keep my eye on the speedo as i was doing 70mph without even knowing it. Totally loved it the guy had to ask me is it ok if we go back now as i couldn't get enough lol

P.s the car did have genuine motorway miles as it was owned by a company sales director who was continuously on the motorways and the current owner only had it barely a year but was selling due to a company car arriving. I have done a google search on warranty direct and apparently they are really crap. So would BMW warranty be best and would they stop cover after the car reach's 100k.?

[briers]

I think he was right about the 100k limit, i think the cover is limited when you go over 100k, maybe you can't get comprehensive cover only driveline cover, i'm not sure but it's something like that from BMW extended through Mondial.

Also i'm not sure you can get BMW warranty unless it has been extended each year after the manufacturers warranty expires. I'd like to know this as i was thinking of getting another BM but would want the BMW warranty and it's a 06 plate car without one.

If you have doubts, don't do it. You won't enjoy it. You could get a lovely e46 m3 for less too.

[briers]

Now this is one HELL of a car for much less money

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...01119386723701

I admit the mileage is slightly higher than i'd like but still...

[CarAbuser]

If its performance you're after why not opt for a 335i? They will be cheaper than the d so you can get something with reasonable miles.

Also if you're not too bothered by looks an E90 would would drop the cost even more and allow you get something in better condition.

[Falmouthboy]

On balance a wise decision - you may well have been fine with it, but could you afford the risk? I think when you spend that much cash on a car like that without the reasurance of a decent warranty behind you, you take a risk. If you can afford to 'insure yourself' with a couple more £K put away to cover the unexpected, fine. But I would never push myself to my financial limit on a car like that.

[SelSol]

I thought I'd drop in with a word about warrantys.

I had an AA one on my previous Saab 9-3, but when you looked into it, cover limit was £1000, with a £100 excess. £900 doesnt cover squat when big things go wrong with these cars.

I dont want to scare you, and indeed I'm fairly sure I have a lemon car, but I've had four warranty claims in the last four months, all cleared up free by AUC, but they mount to a value of some £6000. I wouldnt touch a 33X without a good warranty. Not because the cars particularly go wrong (I really am in the minority and I accept this) but I've just had a new diff, and unless you can pull 3 grand out your arse at short notice, I wouldnt even entertain the idea of one at the mileage.

Go over the alloys with a fine tooth comb. I wouldnt be in the least bit suprised if when you got them refurbed the chap doing them tells you they sporting cracks, at £400 a corner you dont want to find you've got knackered ones.

[dxb335d]

The D is pretty reliable mate. But with 120k there is a slight risk.

I think if the car was 13k it would be worth a punt.

[wayne71]

I wouldn't have one without a BMW warranty, just a couple of relatively minor faults would have cost me £1500 in 7 months which makes the £32 a month for the warranty seem good value.

[mowflow]

I agree with the general advice that high mileage is fine on these cars as long as you are prepared to accept that you may have to fork out for at least 1 big repair bill while you own the car. If you're happy with that and have the financial cushion or better yet, a good warranty then it's fine. It's also worth remembering that these cars just aren't cheap in general. Tyres, servicing and general wear and tear parts such as brakes ain't cheap.

Edit: My father in law has a warranty direct warranty on his e93 (which he took out against my advice after reading all about them). He's made 3 claims in the last year for the usual 320i missfire problem and "can't fault that company" in his own words. Maybe they've cleaned up their act.

[ram33]

theres one for the same money in this forums classifieds and only 46k miles
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=523604

[zltm089]

I wouldn't really go for a private car...unless its a forum member's car and i can get full detailed history etc....

for me that BMW warranty is very important, so i would go for the main dealer route...

You can pick up a 335i from bmw dealers for £16k ....easily...

[dxb335d]

I don't know what to go for next. I did want a 335i,
can't being doing with the unreliability. 335d I've done and M3 is 10 fuxking grand more......