I didn't know it was possible to lock my keys in my car with comfort access

bsv2316 · 06-13-2011, 08:30 AM

I was carrying things in from outside..and realized i've left my key fob (bought the car used, only have one) on the passenger seat...and the doors are locked.

I can't call BMW assist because my warranty has expired.

Any suggestions? I didn't know this was even possible with comfort access.

gos · 06-13-2011, 08:33 AM

Do you pay for BMW Assist? Has nothing to do with warranty or not. I'd rather have BMW Assist unlock my door electronically than some locksmith who may damage something.

jlaforn · 06-13-2011, 08:34 AM

BMW won't even help and bill you? I would think that they can do something remotely, but you may have to pony up $ and call the dealer. See if they have anything. I'm not sure if AAA or the sheriff could get in by getting inside the lock from the door/window weather stripping. Good luck..
I had only one key with my car when I got it. It cost me $400 to get one from the dealer and another $100 to program it.

bsv2316 · 06-13-2011, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gos

Do you pay for BMW Assist? Has nothing to do with warranty or not. I'd rather have BMW Assist unlock my door electronically than some locksmith who may damage something.

I guess I'm an idiot...but I didn't realize that coverage expired when my warranty expired a couple of months ago.

bsv2316 · 06-13-2011, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jlaforn

BMW won't even help and bill you? I would think that they can do something remotely, but you may have to pony up $ and call the dealer. See if they have anything. I'm not sure if AAA or the sheriff could get in by getting inside the lock from the door/window weather stripping. Good luck..
I had only one key with my car when I got it. It cost me $400 to get one from the dealer and another $100 to program it.

No, she said that I would have to go to the dealer to re-up on the bmw assist coverage. Can't get to a dealer if I can't drive the car.

She said she could send someone out for $119 to open it.

Turns out that I can pay for a year of coverage from AAA for $65 and be immediately eligible...and have a year of coverage for everything else going forward. Might be the better option.

I just didn't realize the keys would lock themselves in with comfort access.

onebadmofo · 06-13-2011, 09:12 AM

Pull the handles?

GarySL · 06-13-2011, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by onebadmofo

Pull the handles?

+1

reprod · 06-13-2011, 09:30 AM

How did you lock the doors in the first place. Did you manually push down the lock?

Ricer X · 06-13-2011, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by onebadmofo

Pull the handles?

This should work unless the battery in remote is dead, no?

kcgman · 06-13-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bsv2316

I was carrying things in from outside..and realized i've left my key fob (bought the car used, only have one) on the passenger seat...and the doors are locked.

I can't call BMW assist because my warranty has expired.

Any suggestions? I didn't know this was even possible with comfort access.

I once tried repeatedly to lock my door from the outside while the key fob was still in the car. I got sort of annoyed that it wasn't locking, until I realized that the key fob was still in the car. Then I was embarrassed... but not actually locked out of my car.

Seems like there's a problem with your CA IMO.

GarySL · 06-13-2011, 10:50 AM

I just repeated your scenario & locked myself out too! Pulling the handles doesn't work or trying the trunk. My fob is simply sitting in the passenger seat. Luckily my spare is in the safe & will need to use it after breakfast.

atopa2002 · 06-13-2011, 10:52 AM

I read somewhere,you can lock your fab by using the passenger side door.

GarySL · 06-13-2011, 10:56 AM

^ I used my fob to lock the door & tossed it back in the seat. I've locked the doors before by going out the passenger door, when I didn't have a key.

reprod · 06-13-2011, 01:22 PM

So there is a loophole...

Thunder Dump · 06-15-2011, 06:08 AM

You cannot lock your fob in the *trunk* with a CA-equipped car (sensors in the trunk detect the fob and keep it from locking), but you *can* lock your fob inside the passenger compartment. I've done this myself. It's from a safety and security standpoint. Think about this scenario: Your wife/girlfriend is in a bad part of town, parked, sitting waiting for a friend to get out of work and she wants to keep the doors locked until her friend comes out of the building. If you couldn't lock the fob inside the car, then there would be no way for her to lock the car while she was sitting inside it. And we all know you can, in fact, lock the doors while you are sitting inside it with your fob in your pocket.

Auto Pilot · 06-15-2011, 07:27 AM

In your scenario, the passenger is inside the car, so you should be able to lock the doors, even if the fob is in the car.

The point is how does it make sense to let you lock the doors from the outside when there's still a fob still in the car? If there's someone sitting in the car with a fob they should be able to activate the fob from inside or press the door lock button on the dash. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying it doesn't make sense to allow it if that's the case.

Too me the only time it's reasonable to allow the doors to lock from the outside when a fob is in the car is if the doors are locked externally with another fob. I'm my opinion the sensor on the door handle should never lock if the car only detects one fob and it's inside the car.

Given the safety issue you discussed above, that's the exact reason why pulling on the door handles of a locked comfort access car when it can only detect a fob inside the car should not result in the doors opening.

smokinHawk · 06-15-2011, 07:48 AM

if you lock the car with the fob out side the car and the doors are open then place the fob inside then close the doors, you are locked out, that is the only way i had been able to figure out how to get past the lockout prevention methods.

miamoore19 · 08-28-2011, 04:03 AM

I just have this happen to me with my fob being locked in the car. I called BMW they offered to order me a valet key for $45, keeping this in mind I instead called Triple A they said they would be right out. When the tow truck arrived he stated that he didn't want to touch anything because he was afraid that he would damage the vehicle. So I decided to call BMW back to order the valet (2 days to get it) and they stated that parts was closed

I do have BMW Roadside Assistance so I will see if there is anything they could do.

06-13-2011, 08:30 AM	#1
bsv2316 Private 7 Rep 71 Posts Drives: e92 335i Montego Saddle Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The 865 iTrader: (0)	I didn't know it was possible to lock my keys in my car with comfort access I was carrying things in from outside..and realized i've left my key fob (bought the car used, only have one) on the passenger seat...and the doors are locked. I can't call BMW assist because my warranty has expired. Any suggestions? I didn't know this was even possible with comfort access.
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06-13-2011, 08:33 AM	#2
gos Captain 27 Rep 959 Posts Drives: E90 330xi Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Colorado iTrader: (0)	Do you pay for BMW Assist? Has nothing to do with warranty or not. I'd rather have BMW Assist unlock my door electronically than some locksmith who may damage something. __________________ -- 330xi SG/Terra/Burl -- ZPP, ZSP, ZCW, CA, Sirius, PDC
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06-13-2011, 08:34 AM	#3
jlaforn Enlisted Member 0 Rep 33 Posts Drives: 2006 330xi Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Buffalo, NY iTrader: (0)	BMW won't even help and bill you? I would think that they can do something remotely, but you may have to pony up $ and call the dealer. See if they have anything. I'm not sure if AAA or the sheriff could get in by getting inside the lock from the door/window weather stripping. Good luck.. I had only one key with my car when I got it. It cost me $400 to get one from the dealer and another $100 to program it.
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06-13-2011, 09:12 AM	#6
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06-13-2011, 10:50 AM	#11
GarySL Lieutenant 1477 Rep 409 Posts Drives: 2006 Carrera 4S Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Humboldt Co., CA iTrader: (0)	I just repeated your scenario & locked myself out too! Pulling the handles doesn't work or trying the trunk. My fob is simply sitting in the passenger seat. Luckily my spare is in the safe & will need to use it after breakfast. __________________ '08 335xi (E90), 6MT, Arctic/Black, ZPP, ZSP (18"s), ZCW, CA, PDC, i-Pod Ordered-March 7, 2008, Shipped via Graceful Leader-March 21, 2008, Arrived Port Hueneme-April 11, 2008, Delivered-April 21, 2008
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atopa2002 Lieutenant 203 Rep 538 Posts Drives: Z3M, 2013 e92 M3, F15 X5 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Richmond,VA iTrader: (2)	I read somewhere,you can lock your fab by using the passenger side door.
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06-13-2011, 10:56 AM	#13
GarySL Lieutenant 1477 Rep 409 Posts Drives: 2006 Carrera 4S Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Humboldt Co., CA iTrader: (0)	^ I used my fob to lock the door & tossed it back in the seat. I've locked the doors before by going out the passenger door, when I didn't have a key. __________________ '08 335xi (E90), 6MT, Arctic/Black, ZPP, ZSP (18"s), ZCW, CA, PDC, i-Pod Ordered-March 7, 2008, Shipped via Graceful Leader-March 21, 2008, Arrived Port Hueneme-April 11, 2008, Delivered-April 21, 2008
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06-15-2011, 06:08 AM	#15
Thunder Dump That tickles 11 Rep 457 Posts Drives: '09 328i E93 SGM/CR Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Western MA iTrader: (1)	You cannot lock your fob in the trunk with a CA-equipped car (sensors in the trunk detect the fob and keep it from locking), but you can lock your fob inside the passenger compartment. I've done this myself. It's from a safety and security standpoint. Think about this scenario: Your wife/girlfriend is in a bad part of town, parked, sitting waiting for a friend to get out of work and she wants to keep the doors locked until her friend comes out of the building. If you couldn't lock the fob inside the car, then there would be no way for her to lock the car while she was sitting inside it. And we all know you can, in fact, lock the doors while you are sitting inside it with your fob in your pocket.
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06-15-2011, 07:27 AM	#16
Auto Pilot First Lieutenant 10 Rep 303 Posts Drives: 2011 SG CR 335xi e92, M-Sport Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: GTA, Ontario iTrader: (0)	In your scenario, the passenger is inside the car, so you should be able to lock the doors, even if the fob is in the car. The point is how does it make sense to let you lock the doors from the outside when there's still a fob still in the car? If there's someone sitting in the car with a fob they should be able to activate the fob from inside or press the door lock button on the dash. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying it doesn't make sense to allow it if that's the case. Too me the only time it's reasonable to allow the doors to lock from the outside when a fob is in the car is if the doors are locked externally with another fob. I'm my opinion the sensor on the door handle should never lock if the car only detects one fob and it's inside the car. Given the safety issue you discussed above, that's the exact reason why pulling on the door handles of a locked comfort access car when it can only detect a fob inside the car should not result in the doors opening.
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smokinHawk 623lb puller 26 Rep 199 Posts Drives: 2017 340I XDrive MT Black Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: ohio iTrader: (2)	if you lock the car with the fob out side the car and the doors are open then place the fob inside then close the doors, you are locked out, that is the only way i had been able to figure out how to get past the lockout prevention methods.
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08-28-2011, 04:03 AM	#18
miamoore19 Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: 328xi Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: illinois iTrader: (0)	fob locked in car with comfort access system I just have this happen to me with my fob being locked in the car. I called BMW they offered to order me a valet key for $45, keeping this in mind I instead called Triple A they said they would be right out. When the tow truck arrived he stated that he didn't want to touch anything because he was afraid that he would damage the vehicle. So I decided to call BMW back to order the valet (2 days to get it) and they stated that parts was closed I do have BMW Roadside Assistance so I will see if there is anything they could do.
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