Engine tick

PCTAtc · 06-20-2011, 12:43 PM

08 328i with 21k, when the car is idling i am hearing a steady tick from the passenger side when i am outside the car, pretty nervous but the car has only 21k!! Is this normal?

apc3libras · 06-20-2011, 01:12 PM

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13504

Check this thread. It's a very common issue, probably that same thing you are experiencing.

JuppiOne · 06-20-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by apc3libras

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13504

Check this thread. It's a very common issue, probably that same thing you are experiencing.

+1, valve lifter ticks

DC_Oldboy · 06-20-2011, 02:13 PM

If your under warranty then its all good. If not, that sucks... But its not that big of a problem so don't sweat it unless it sounds like a semi truck lol.

Delta0311 · 06-20-2011, 02:22 PM

You under warranty so your good to go.

It's going to go something like this.
1st they will replace the lifters
2nd if that doesn't fix it (and it won't) then they will replace the head next.

The dealer can be a dick about this and state that he won't do any work unless his service people can recreate the noise. Lucky for me my SA knew that this is a known issue and had me taken care of.

FVM3 · 06-20-2011, 02:29 PM

that should be normal

apc3libras · 06-20-2011, 02:53 PM

I went to have the dealer look at mine, but they could never "replicate" the ticking. It still happens occasionally, but now I am out of warranty. So I guess oh well..

fdriller9 · 06-20-2011, 03:22 PM

Take a video/sound clip of the noise.....they won't give you a hard time if you provide proof.

Delta0311 · 06-20-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by *********

Take a video/sound clip of the noise.....they won't give you a hard time if you provide proof.

You will have to do it like so.
1. get a local paper with the date clearly visible.
2. pop the hood when you hear the ticking
3. use your phone to do a video recording.
4. start with your license plate and work your way to the engine.
5. place the newspaper on your ticking engine and record the date.

Yeah I know this sounds like your doing a kidnapping but this way you have iron clad proof and even the biggest asshole of a dealer will have to accept it.

apc3libras · 06-20-2011, 03:55 PM

Have any of you had this issue fixed after the warranty? I have brought it up to the dealer before, but nothing was done. Would they cover this as a courtesy or am I most likely going to pay?

fdriller9 · 06-20-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by apc3libras

Have any of you had this issue fixed after the warranty? I have brought it up to the dealer before, but nothing was done. Would they cover this as a courtesy or am I most likely going to pay?

I got mine covered under CPO if that's what you're asking. But if you get it done out of warranty, go straight to the new head replacement. Replacing the valve lifters on the exhaust side is a waste of time/money.

sunny · 06-22-2011, 11:04 PM

even if you're out of warranty , I would take it to the dealer and see what they can do for you.

lifters are about $450.00 job.
hopefully it fixes the problem.

I had lifters replaced at 27000 and it was fine until 42000 miles.
and at 42000 miles dealer replaced the head under warranty.(car was out of warranty by 42000)

engine sound was completly different in a better way.

good luck

Chriztofor · 06-22-2011, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by apc3libras

Have any of you had this issue fixed after the warranty? I have brought it up to the dealer before, but nothing was done. Would they cover this as a courtesy or am I most likely going to pay?

Depending on how many miles you are over you can always ask your dealer AND BMWNA for a "good will" repair. It doesn't hurt to ask.

apc3libras · 06-23-2011, 12:05 AM

Thanks guys. I'm at 52k and it expired in March. I will give it a try.

AddictedToBavarian · 06-23-2011, 04:23 AM

I work closely with a service manager and it seems as if BMWNA requires the lifters to be replaced first. They won't replace the lifters and head at the first shot. Like I said 3,000 miles ago my lifters were changed and I'm pretty much waiting for the noise to come back. I'll be out of the maintenance warranty by then probably, but I'm sure the CPO will cover it (+ the small deductible). I know it's about money, but it's annoying how BMWNA has techs doing circles before the actual fix. We spent good money on these cars just fix it the first time!

Falafel Combo · 06-23-2011, 07:04 AM

Keep searching.
Keep on searching.
This search goes on.
This search goes on.

Frantic tick tick tick tick tock
Frantic tick tick tick tick tick tick tock!!!!

Delta0311 · 06-23-2011, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 328xi0wner

I work closely with a service manager and it seems as if BMWNA requires the lifters to be replaced first. They won't replace the lifters and head at the first shot. Like I said 3,000 miles ago my lifters were changed and I'm pretty much waiting for the noise to come back. I'll be out of the maintenance warranty by then probably, but I'm sure the CPO will cover it (+ the small deductible). I know it's about money, but it's annoying how BMWNA has techs doing circles before the actual fix. We spent good money on these cars just fix it the first time!

Doesn't matter if you are out of warranty since you reported the problem WITHIN the warranty period. They will have to honor the repair as "in" warranty since it wasn't fixed the first time. And don't expect the ticking to come back till winter.

rjive · 06-23-2011, 12:50 PM

it seems pretty obvious its the lifter problem. If you ran non-premium fuel, that could cause an engine tick.

Delta0311 · 06-23-2011, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rjive

it seems pretty obvious its the lifter problem. If you ran non-premium fuel, that could cause an engine tick.

I only used Shell V-Power and Sunoco 93 and still had the tick. The deffect is in the lifter and head design and has nothing to do with the fuel being used. BMW is well aware of this problem.

Alpine328 · 06-23-2011, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PCTAtc

08 328i with 21k, when the car is idling i am hearing a steady tick from the passenger side when i am outside the car, pretty nervous but the car has only 21k!! Is this normal?

Hey! I have the same car, same year. Went through everything, first the lifter replacement and then a TOTAL HEAD replacement. That was the trick. NO MORE TAPPING! (All under warranty.)

Here's what I recommend:

1. Study the thread: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13504. (It's long but very informative)

2. Take the car to the dealer and let them know you've studied up on the subject. (Act like you really know what you're talking about.)

3. Demand action!...but be polite.

They'll want to first replace the lifters...and, more than likely, the noise will continue. After that, take it back with the expectation that they'll replace the head.

Changing the head is the only real fix. Pain in the a$$, but it works.

Best of luck!

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