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      08-29-2011, 12:46 PM   #1
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How unreliable is the N54?

I used to have an 07 335, loved it. Thinking about getting another one, probably a 2009+

From a long term drivers standpoint, have you had any major issues? I know the fuel pumps are an issue. Is it really as bad as everyone says? I mean if you have a car under warrantee and you get it replaced it should be a pretty solid motor?
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I used to have an 07 335, loved it. Thinking about getting another one, probably a 2009+

From a long term drivers standpoint, have you had any major issues? I know the fuel pumps are an issue. Is it really as bad as everyone says? I mean if you have a car under warrantee and you get it replaced it should be a pretty solid motor?
listen, you drive a 2.0t, you got no right judging other car's reliability.


more reliable than a 2.0t. and ps, i just traded my a4 in after 5 years and 160k miles.
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listen, you drive a 2.0t, you got no right judging other car's reliability.


more reliable than a 2.0t. and ps, i just traded my a4 in after 5 years and 160k miles.

? I have 70k on my car and its rock solid,

I'm asking a question not judging.

What model A4 did you have?
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      08-29-2011, 12:52 PM   #4
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      08-29-2011, 12:59 PM   #5
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? I have 70k on my car and its rock solid,

I'm asking a question not judging.

What model A4 did you have?
2006, 2.0t i modded it too.

point is, its gonna be much better than a b7.
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I had no issues with my B7 2.0t....zero issues to 26k miles actually, my buddy has the same car w/70k miles, just minor issues, few 02 sensors or something. (not modded, easy driver)

N54 got new turbos at 40k

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I had no issues with my B7 2.0t....zero issues to 26k miles actually, my buddy has the same car w/70k miles, just minor issues, few 02 sensors or something.

N54 got new turbos at 40k
all 2.0t b7s have carbon build up issues, its just a fact of how the motor is designed.

also, if you mod it (like i did, ended up with a k04 and meth), your fueling is gonna be a massive hurdle, as will be a shit ton of other things.

im in a 335i now for a reason lol
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all 2.0t b7s have carbon build up issues, its just a fact of how the motor is designed.

also, if you mod it (like i did, ended up with a k04 and meth), your fueling is gonna be a massive hurdle, as will be a shit ton of other things.

im in a 335i now for a reason lol
maybe....dont know this. know that 2.0t burns oil like crazy though...its funny how Audi decided that 1qt. per 1k miles is ok to burn.
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maybe....dont know this. know that 2.0t burns oil like crazy though...its funny how Audi decided that 1qt. per 1k miles is ok to burn.
LOL ur car didnt go over the 100k mark? lol mine found an appetite for oil later in life.
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Why did this thread turn into a discussion about Audi?

Anyways, the N54 is pretty reliable. The weak parts are the HPFP and injectors. The HPFP is covered under extended warranty, and the injectors have been redesigned.

Other problems that people have encountered, but by no means are common problems: VANOS Solenois requiring replacement or cleaning, transmission mechatronic sleeve leaking, and water pump failure.
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Why did this thread turn into a discussion about Audi?

Anyways, the N54 is pretty reliable. The weak parts are the HPFP and injectors. The HPFP is covered under extended warranty, and the injectors have been redesigned.

Other problems that people have encountered, but by no means are common problems: VANOS Solenois requiring replacement or cleaning, transmission mechatronic sleeve leaking, and water pump failure.
obviously because thats what the op is driving right now, did you miss that in your situational awareness? providing perspective between two vehicles is important.
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obviously because thats what the op is driving right now, did you miss that in your situational awareness? providing perspective between two vehicles is important.
You posted in this thread four times, yet you did not address the thread's original question even once. Saying that Engine A is more reliable than Engine B does not answer anything, and your third post was even misleading - Carbon build up is also an issue with the N54. See threads:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=578550
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The N54 is in numerous models and thousands of BMWs. Obviously it's a good motor, and no the HPFP issue isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I LOVE my 07 335 Coupe!
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it's so unreliable, it can't run forever. piece of shit.

it's as bad as everyone says it is, because everyone says it bad. why would they say it's bad if it's good?
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in order to determine unreliability, you must determine a baseline.

To one person, unreliable might mean: breaks down more than 1 time a year.
To another person, unreliable might mean: breaks down more than 5 times a year.
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      08-29-2011, 05:22 PM   #16
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it's so unreliable, it can't run forever. piece of shit.

it's as bad as everyone says it is, because everyone says it bad. why would they say it's bad if it's good?
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      08-29-2011, 06:00 PM   #17
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I feel confident in answering this question. A N54 fails any reliability test as a mean, such as consumer reports, digest, whatever, because in this day and age so many car cos. crank out vehicles that have zero problems. To add insult to injury, the BMW dealerships who support the product have a fair share who refuse to fix things "just because" the owner noticed it wouldn't start, or the SES turned on, but turned off when the car reached their hands, or customer says the car died on the expressway. This turns out to be an awful experience for the owner. In my case, the car repeatedly stalled, codes were in the DME and they cleared them and if they don't come back, hit the road Jack. Upon my 4th visit I began shouting (3rd visit car stalled leaving after they found nothing).

Now, let's look at the flip side. Shouting = getting attention = PUMA case = fixed for what seems to be good--in my case, 16 mos. And I've never even had the hpfp changed until last week. So for those who believe "it's only the hpfp and you're' covered 10/120 so don't worry," well, that's not altogether true.

There are many who have had NO problems, and there are many who have great dealers, who fixed them up.

So all in all, if you get a good car, or you get a dealer willing to fix things, you'll be just fine. Nobody would ever expect to drop 45k on a car and have to shout to have it fixed under warranty.

But just sat. the SA tried to add $40 to my oil change price because the "coupon" doesn't apply to 335's all of a sudden (it says up to 7 qts. M and diesel extra). They did my hpfp and left the wiring looms hanging on the pass side. There are plenty of bad BMW dealerships. There are good ones too, problem is, they may not be close to your home. You're not going to buy a home based on where the BMW dealership is, right?

I feel that the dead on the side of the road 335i days are behind me, seriously. So what you want to do is to get a used car like mine, where its best days are ahead. There are lots of impulsive BMW buyers and lessees who switch cars like underwear. You get their car at a distressed price, and you will be very happy indeed!
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This wouldn't be E90post.com if it weren't for this topic popping up every 12-15 days. Lol
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n54 and their hpfp are VERY RELIABLE.
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yeah, reliable like my ex wife
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German cars are not reliable.... period.

that said sadly my s2k getting all new coil packs at dealer now :-) at 33k miles. $400 bucks, thank god warranty got it covered. I hope its my last issue

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This wouldn't be E90post.com if it weren't for this topic popping up every 12-15 days. Lol
+1...The n54 is soooo unreliable..Whine whine whine..

If you want 100K mile reliability..buy a 100hp hyundai, honda, kia.etc etc etc

This topic is purely subjective based on people's experiences w their individual cars..and has been beaten to death
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