DCT: Would it have changed your mind?

nebby · 10-26-2011, 11:27 AM

Coming from the land of VW R32s... manual vs. DSG transmissions is a big topic. For those that have purchased... wondering if you would still have purchased had the 1M been made available with DCT only?

The 2004 R32 was manual only, and the 2008 was DSG only. The 2008s lack of popularity when compared to the 2004 is often largely blamed on the lack of manual option... so the 2012 Golf R is coming to the US in manual only.

So... for those that purchased a 1M, would you still have purchased if it was available in DCT only?

sergeremi · 10-26-2011, 11:31 AM

most likely, no.

mPlasticDesign · 10-26-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sergeremi

most likely, no.

+1, for me definitely would have passed...

1SerieStud · 10-26-2011, 11:40 AM

Of course it would have changed my mind: had this car been offered with DCT instead of 6MT it wouldn't have crossed my mind to even consider buying one - I would have kept my previous car or purchased something else.

Amnizu · 10-26-2011, 11:56 AM

If DCT was similar or the same to the transmission in the current model m3 I would have opted for it. This is not my weekend race / track car, it is my DD so I actually settled on buying this car dispite the manual only option.

Franklin Joseph · 10-26-2011, 12:04 PM

i would still buy it...at least the wife can drive the car then.

Fundahl · 10-26-2011, 12:16 PM

After finally getting my 1M and putting 300 miles on it in 2 days, i can say it's a shame that not everyone can experience the perfect connection of car and driver with the most beautifully shifting gearbox I've ever driven.

TunedM2C · 10-26-2011, 12:18 PM

I would have bought it either way. I guess I'm bi-trans. lol

tkbr0wn · 10-26-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuned1

I would have bought it either way. I guess I'm bi-trans. lol

I guess that's better than a Bi-Tranny.

marcel b · 10-26-2011, 12:29 PM

I probably would have bought it... although I prefer the manual (coming from DCT). Love to have a manual again! Makes so much more fun.

TunedM2C · 10-26-2011, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tkbr0wn

I guess that's better than a Bi-Tranny.

bdaddylo · 10-26-2011, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklin Joseph

i would still buy it...at least the wife can drive the car then.

+1

richb811 · 10-26-2011, 01:03 PM

I think the DCT is a fantastic transmission, although I would not have considered the 1M if that was the only option it came with.

M3 Adjuster · 10-26-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 1SerieStud

Of course it would have changed my mind: had this car been offered with DCT instead of 6MT it wouldn't have crossed my mind to even consider buying one - I would have kept my previous car or purchased something else.

+1 it would have been OFF the list.

SpencerMH · 10-26-2011, 01:09 PM

Wouldn't have bought it, faster or not I prefer the feel/involvement.

Sy546 · 10-26-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 1SerieStud

Of course it would have changed my mind: had this car been offered with DCT instead of 6MT it wouldn't have crossed my mind to even consider buying one - I would have kept my previous car or purchased something else.

I wouldn't have gotten it either. I would only get DCT/DSG in my DD, but thats only because NY commute is horrible. If i lived anywhere outside of NY or CA i would get Manual for every car. I DD'ed my s2k for 4 years in ny traffic, sick of engaging the clutch every 20 seconds.

Wolfpack · 10-26-2011, 01:14 PM

I would not have wanted the car with DCT and my wife would not want that either (if she ever got to spend more than a few minutes driving it anyway). We have one vehicle with an automatic and that is one too many for both of us.

Having driven the SMG on track in an E46 M3 several times, it surely can allow a slightly faster lap time, but for the sake of loosing the fun factor of the perfect lap.

b33g33 · 10-26-2011, 01:28 PM

No. My fiancee and I are both Manual devotees.

The way things are going, the there may not be any BMW manuals after the F10 series.

nachob · 10-26-2011, 01:41 PM

If 1M only offered in Automatic, I would not have purchased it.

We also own Auto DCT MKV GTI so I can say, nice auto gearbox but, manual is better for me.

Finally, I saw a review in Car and Driver where they loved the DCT in 2.o Turbo GTI but NOT in R32. They said something to the effect that the engine's powerband does not work well in R32 but that they loved it when paired with 2.0 T.

Anyway, that is beside the point. If 1M was another automatic gadget-mobile, I would have gone elsewhere.

MrRoboto · 10-26-2011, 01:42 PM

Never would have considered it if only offered in automatic.

James T. Kirk · 10-26-2011, 01:45 PM

Negatory.

Though, I imagine other types would have bought.

LeifW · 10-26-2011, 01:51 PM

I wouldn't say definitely not, but I probably would not have bought one if it was DCT only.

Leif W.

10-26-2011, 11:27 AM	#1
nebby SoCal 1M 14 Rep 119 Posts Drives: BMW 1M Audi A8L Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	DCT: Would it have changed your mind? Coming from the land of VW R32s... manual vs. DSG transmissions is a big topic. For those that have purchased... wondering if you would still have purchased had the 1M been made available with DCT only? The 2004 R32 was manual only, and the 2008 was DSG only. The 2008s lack of popularity when compared to the 2004 is often largely blamed on the lack of manual option... so the 2012 Golf R is coming to the US in manual only. So... for those that purchased a 1M, would you still have purchased if it was available in DCT only?
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sergeremi Lieutenant 41 Rep 574 Posts Drives: 1 Series M Coupe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (0)	most likely, no. __________________ there is no effing automatic
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1SerieStud Brigadier General 183 Rep 3,939 Posts Drives: '11 VO 1M (498 of 740) Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Jacksonville, FL iTrader: (11)	Of course it would have changed my mind: had this car been offered with DCT instead of 6MT it wouldn't have crossed my mind to even consider buying one - I would have kept my previous car or purchased something else.
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Amnizu First Lieutenant 20 Rep 325 Posts Drives: 502 of 740 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle iTrader: (0)	If DCT was similar or the same to the transmission in the current model m3 I would have opted for it. This is not my weekend race / track car, it is my DD so I actually settled on buying this car dispite the manual only option.
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Franklin Joseph Captain 57 Rep 820 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Texas iTrader: (1)	i would still buy it...at least the wife can drive the car then.
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Fundahl Captain 8 Rep 704 Posts Drives: VO 1M, 300zx TT Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas iTrader: (0)	After finally getting my 1M and putting 300 miles on it in 2 days, i can say it's a shame that not everyone can experience the perfect connection of car and driver with the most beautifully shifting gearbox I've ever driven.
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TunedM2C Brigadier General 826 Rep 4,190 Posts Drives: 2016 LBB M2 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Earth iTrader: (2)	I would have bought it either way. I guess I'm bi-trans. lol
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marcel b Lieutenant Colonel 132 Rep 1,898 Posts Drives: F31 340i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	I probably would have bought it... although I prefer the manual (coming from DCT). Love to have a manual again! Makes so much more fun.
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richb811 450 Rep 4,592 Posts Drives: 2020 G20 330i M Sport Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NJ iTrader: (21)	I think the DCT is a fantastic transmission, although I would not have considered the 1M if that was the only option it came with.
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SpencerMH First Lieutenant 68 Rep 397 Posts Drives: 1M, M6 GC, 718GT4, F355GTS6 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Fl iTrader: (3)	Wouldn't have bought it, faster or not I prefer the feel/involvement. __________________ BSM 1M, MCS Coilovers, Pure Stg 2 Turbos, Walbro LPFP, JB4, BMS E85 Flash, ECS CF sealed intake, N54 Tuning DP's, Evolve Race Exhaust, Wagner FMIC, Stett CP w/ Tial BOV, ST BBK, Big Tires. M6 6MT Gran Coupe w JB4, 718 GTS, Lotus Esprit V8TT, Duc 998SBayliss
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Wolfpack Private First Class 1 Rep 199 Posts Drives: Everything in my garage Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0) Garage List 1999 Mercedes ML320 [0.00] 2006 MINI Cooper S [0.00] 1997 Mazda Miata [0.00] 2011 BMW 1M [0.00] 2002 BMW 330 Ci [0.00]	I would not have wanted the car with DCT and my wife would not want that either (if she ever got to spend more than a few minutes driving it anyway). We have one vehicle with an automatic and that is one too many for both of us. Having driven the SMG on track in an E46 M3 several times, it surely can allow a slightly faster lap time, but for the sake of loosing the fun factor of the perfect lap. __________________ Wherever you go...there you are.
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b33g33 Give '///M' Hell! 125 Rep 1,325 Posts Drives: Einser Rex Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0)	No. My fiancee and I are both Manual devotees. The way things are going, the there may not be any BMW manuals after the F10 series. __________________ The 1 series M is the most badass, coolest, sickest BMW to debut since the 1988 M3. The E30 M3 finally has a successor. Please welcome the stupidly fast, wickedly tempered, awkwardly named, possibly perfect little son of a benchmark - Automobile Magazine, August 2011
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nachob Brigadier General 2311 Rep 4,341 Posts Drives: 2004 330i ZHP, 2022 Cayman T Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California iTrader: (5)	If 1M only offered in Automatic, I would not have purchased it. We also own Auto DCT MKV GTI so I can say, nice auto gearbox but, manual is better for me. Finally, I saw a review in Car and Driver where they loved the DCT in 2.o Turbo GTI but NOT in R32. They said something to the effect that the engine's powerband does not work well in R32 but that they loved it when paired with 2.0 T. Anyway, that is beside the point. If 1M was another automatic gadget-mobile, I would have gone elsewhere.
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MrRoboto Brigadier General 1846 Rep 4,836 Posts Drives: VO 1M Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	Never would have considered it if only offered in automatic.
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James T. Kirk Captain of the Enterprise 101 Rep 1,424 Posts Drives: 2011 1 Series M Coupe Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Alpha Quadrant, Sector 001 iTrader: (0)	Negatory. Though, I imagine other types would have bought. __________________ 2011 1 Series M Coupe VO M3 vs 1M Comparo Review 2011 M3 E90 DCT ZCP (sold) * 2010 335i Sedan (sold) 2005 M3 Convertible (sold) * 2003 325i Sedan (sold)
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LeifW Captain 47 Rep 691 Posts Drives: 1M AW Join Date: May 2007 Location: CT, USA iTrader: (0)	I wouldn't say definitely not, but I probably would not have bought one if it was DCT only. Leif W.
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