For those of you who have had your run in service

ChrisBuer · 10-27-2011, 01:22 PM

I've heard a number of owners mention that after their run in service, their cars felt a lot quicker?

A few people have mentioned to me that this could be that some parameters are 'dumbed down' on the ECU during this run in period and then unlocked when the car has it's service.

So my question really is, has anyone heard of this?

Also, for those of you who have had your cars serviced, does it feel quicker when you get it back?

Thanks

ducturd · 10-27-2011, 01:50 PM

I wondered the same thing when I got my car back from its first service! It did feel faster. Maybe that's because I didn't feel guilty anymore about getting on the gas hard?

Franklin Joseph · 10-27-2011, 01:56 PM

my car felt faster before the service...but it could be me getting used to the speed.
But no i couldnt tell a difference.

Redadair · 10-27-2011, 05:13 PM

I spent the whole time today in the Shop taking pictures of the underside of my car while the service was done. There was no ECU/software work done at all, just fluids and a quick overall check of the car.

clived · 10-28-2011, 10:51 AM

Given that prior to the 1200 mile service WOT should not be used and revs should be limited to 5.5k, of course it feels faster afterwards ;-)

ChrisBuer · 10-31-2011, 11:45 AM

Well I just had an interesting conversation with my dealer.

Apparently when they carry out the 1200 mile service, the car gets hooked into the iSys system (whatever that is) which uploads my ECU data to BMW in Munich. Apparently then, BMW Munich apply the "full unlocked ECU" to the car which gives me full power?!?! Yes, you read that right, my car is currently running on a restricted ECU....gulp, I thought it was quick now!

That would appear to coincide with the feedback from some members that their cars felt quicker after the running in service.

Exciting times!!

Schnorbitz · 10-31-2011, 11:50 AM

My e92 M3 felt like a different car after the 1200 mile service, engine was much smoother and perky, and strangely, the difference between the EDC settings became much more pronounced too.

1M felt exactly the same though.

clived · 10-31-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisBuer

Apparently when they carry out the 1200 mile service, the car gets hooked into the iSys system (whatever that is) which uploads my ECU data to BMW in Munich. Apparently then, BMW Munich apply the "full unlocked ECU" to the car which gives me full power?!?! Yes, you read that right, my car is currently running on a restricted ECU....gulp, I thought it was quick now!

Please tell me. Was it a numpty on the service desk that told you this, or the M-trained Master Technician at the dealership. I pretty much refuse to talk to anyone at the dealership about anything to do with my car apart from the master-tech. In fact, I've now educated the service desk folks about so many aspects of my BMWs I think they now just send him straight out to me to avoid them having to make something up for the sake of conversation...

ChrisBuer · 11-01-2011, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by clived

Please tell me. Was it a numpty on the service desk that told you this, or the M-trained Master Technician at the dealership. I pretty much refuse to talk to anyone at the dealership about anything to do with my car apart from the master-tech. In fact, I've now educated the service desk folks about so many aspects of my BMWs I think they now just send him straight out to me to avoid them having to make something up for the sake of conversation...

To be honest Clive, I've no idea. I phoned up the service department and spoke to an older sounding chap (i.e. not some young kid) and he told me that. They've also seen 4 other 1M's as well for running in services so I assume they are familiar with the car. Of course this doesn't mean what ie been told is correct.

Either way, once run in I'll be using FULL throttle!!!

greygoose · 11-01-2011, 09:13 AM

My garage said similar to me after the 1200 mile service, some restrictions had been removed and it should be a bit faster. It didn't feel much different to me as it always felt pretty fast before.

Jezzer · 11-18-2011, 08:46 PM

Just spoke to the master technician at BMW Specialist Cars, Stevenage and he informs me that the 1M is indeed detuned when imported into the UK and at the 1200 mile service it is then hooked up and retuned. So no wonder your cars felt far more responsive after the run in service. Could this be to keep it under 225 on the emission rating when first registered?

as7920 · 11-19-2011, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jezzer

........Could this be to keep it under 225 on the emission rating when first registered?

Funny you say that Jez. Pre service I was getting 27mpg (UK) and post service I am getting 23mpg.

I know my driving style has changed somewhat but not THAT much I don't think.

Very interesting.

As you have just got yours, perhaps you could record this too?

Hope you're still having fun! Taking advantage of this great weather today I hope!

Mark.

RPMjunkie · 11-19-2011, 11:17 AM

I just had my 1200 mile service yesterday and it definitely feels smoother. Hit a lot of traffic on the 405 so I couldn't test it with the butt dyno. It was however quick enough to get home before we got our first snowfall.

bvez3ro · 11-19-2011, 11:36 AM

The car runs smoother because of the new fluids. But does it feel faster? I don't know. But what i know is, that i hit full throttle today the first time and the 1M is damn fast. ;-)

torquedemon · 11-19-2011, 11:46 AM

i am close to 3k miles now but when i had my service done, It definitely felt different. The gears were changing much more smoothly, the car felt smoother between shifts, and the engine itself felt more "intact" and in "tune" with the throttle...i would venture to say it felt faster as well....

Hotrod99 · 11-20-2011, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by torquedemon

i am close to 3k miles now but when i had my service done, It definitely felt different. The gears were changing much more smoothly, the car felt smoother between shifts, and the engine itself felt more "intact" and in "tune" with the throttle...i would venture to say it felt faster as well....

+1

I noticed from new the gearbox was very clucky and it didnt really feel like a short throw box; perhaps just cause it was new and needed breaking in, but after the service the shifts are certainly more smoother.

clived · 11-20-2011, 07:12 AM

Interesting to hear this come from the Master-Tech as Stevenage - I know and trust him, so I'm willing to change my view that this is bull$hit

1978.530i · 11-20-2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by torquedemon

i am close to 3k miles now but when i had my service done, It definitely felt different. The gears were changing much more smoothly, the car felt smoother between shifts, and the engine itself felt more "intact" and in "tune" with the throttle...i would venture to say it felt faster as well....

TD, did you have the transmission fluid changed during your run-in service?

From this thread, I'm gathering that UK cars are delivered de-tuned and get updated at the run-in service, but probably not US cars. Is that right?

Hotrod99 · 11-20-2011, 03:52 PM

Your supposed to be driving like Miss Daisy during run, so how people are able to say there "cars feel quicker" after the service is beyond me!

torquedemon · 11-20-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 1978.530i

TD, did you have the transmission fluid changed during your run-in service?

From this thread, I'm gathering that UK cars are delivered de-tuned and get updated at the run-in service, but probably not US cars. Is that right?

actually i didn't have my transmission fluid changed during run-in service because the new service bulletin stated not to do it....despite this, I definitely felt a difference after the service...although I am sure that no "tuning" was done

RPMjunkie · 11-20-2011, 04:42 PM

I looked at my invoice and they did download a new code for mine, but it was related to my airbag light that came on during the service...or at least that is what they told me.

mikeedler · 11-20-2011, 05:12 PM

there is no hook up to anything at the run in service for any M cars. That is all b.s. I work at a dealer here in Germany and have done the run in service on atleast 30 M cars in the last 5 years. Hooking the car up to the ISTA is only to run the trans pump on the M3/M5. sorry to let a couple of you down on that one.

WOW, it is really unreal what they tell people over there in the States!

10-27-2011, 01:22 PM	#1
ChrisBuer Captain 69 Rep 632 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	For those of you who have had your run in service I've heard a number of owners mention that after their run in service, their cars felt a lot quicker? A few people have mentioned to me that this could be that some parameters are 'dumbed down' on the ECU during this run in period and then unlocked when the car has it's service. So my question really is, has anyone heard of this? Also, for those of you who have had your cars serviced, does it feel quicker when you get it back? Thanks
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ducturd Enlisted Member 11 Rep 34 Posts Drives: Ted Danson Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (0)	I wondered the same thing when I got my car back from its first service! It did feel faster. Maybe that's because I didn't feel guilty anymore about getting on the gas hard?
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Franklin Joseph Captain 57 Rep 820 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Texas iTrader: (1)	my car felt faster before the service...but it could be me getting used to the speed. But no i couldnt tell a difference.
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Redadair Major 103 Rep 1,417 Posts Drives: 2011 1M #293 - 88 E30 M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Murray iTrader: (0)	I spent the whole time today in the Shop taking pictures of the underside of my car while the service was done. There was no ECU/software work done at all, just fluids and a quick overall check of the car. __________________ 2011 1M, Valencia Orange, All options. August 8th ED (#293 of 739 or 740) 88 E30 M3 100% OEM 73K Miles 02 E39 M5 Le Mans Blue 50K Miles 06 E46 M3 ZCP 58K Miles
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10-28-2011, 10:51 AM	#5
clived Captain 39 Rep 812 Posts Drives: Evolved 1M Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Given that prior to the 1200 mile service WOT should not be used and revs should be limited to 5.5k, of course it feels faster afterwards ;-) __________________ 2019+ BSM M2C 2011-2012: VO 1M Coupe, many toys, Evolve Stage 3. 2008-2011: 135i M Sport Le Mans Blue / Lemon / HGSL. Evolve OBD remap - 390bhp. Also in the family: X3 M40d / Audi S4 (V8)
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10-31-2011, 11:45 AM	#6
ChrisBuer Captain 69 Rep 632 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Well I just had an interesting conversation with my dealer. Apparently when they carry out the 1200 mile service, the car gets hooked into the iSys system (whatever that is) which uploads my ECU data to BMW in Munich. Apparently then, BMW Munich apply the "full unlocked ECU" to the car which gives me full power?!?! Yes, you read that right, my car is currently running on a restricted ECU....gulp, I thought it was quick now! That would appear to coincide with the feedback from some members that their cars felt quicker after the running in service. Exciting times!!
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Schnorbitz Second Lieutenant 9 Rep 234 Posts Drives: 318d Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Scotland iTrader: (0)	My e92 M3 felt like a different car after the 1200 mile service, engine was much smoother and perky, and strangely, the difference between the EDC settings became much more pronounced too. 1M felt exactly the same though.
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11-01-2011, 09:13 AM	#10
greygoose Private 2 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 1M Join Date: May 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 1M [0.00]	My garage said similar to me after the 1200 mile service, some restrictions had been removed and it should be a bit faster. It didn't feel much different to me as it always felt pretty fast before.
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11-18-2011, 08:46 PM	#11
Jezzer Banned 116 Rep 938 Posts Drives: Series 1 m coupe Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Just spoke to the master technician at BMW Specialist Cars, Stevenage and he informs me that the 1M is indeed detuned when imported into the UK and at the 1200 mile service it is then hooked up and retuned. So no wonder your cars felt far more responsive after the run in service. Could this be to keep it under 225 on the emission rating when first registered?
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RPMjunkie Private First Class 9 Rep 136 Posts Drives: 1M Coupe (Got 1) Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Mill Creek WA iTrader: (2)	I just had my 1200 mile service yesterday and it definitely feels smoother. Hit a lot of traffic on the 405 so I couldn't test it with the butt dyno. It was however quick enough to get home before we got our first snowfall.
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11-19-2011, 11:36 AM	#14
bvez3ro Second Lieutenant 10 Rep 235 Posts Drives: F80 YMB Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Outback Munich iTrader: (0)	The car runs smoother because of the new fluids. But does it feel faster? I don't know. But what i know is, that i hit full throttle today the first time and the 1M is damn fast. ;-)
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torquedemon Lieutenant 21 Rep 404 Posts Drives: BSM 1M Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Earth iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 Honda Civic [0.00] 2011 BMW 1 Series M ... [0.00]	i am close to 3k miles now but when i had my service done, It definitely felt different. The gears were changing much more smoothly, the car felt smoother between shifts, and the engine itself felt more "intact" and in "tune" with the throttle...i would venture to say it felt faster as well....
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11-20-2011, 07:12 AM	#17
clived Captain 39 Rep 812 Posts Drives: Evolved 1M Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Interesting to hear this come from the Master-Tech as Stevenage - I know and trust him, so I'm willing to change my view that this is bull$hit __________________ 2019+ BSM M2C 2011-2012: VO 1M Coupe, many toys, Evolve Stage 3. 2008-2011: 135i M Sport Le Mans Blue / Lemon / HGSL. Evolve OBD remap - 390bhp. Also in the family: X3 M40d / Audi S4 (V8)
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Hotrod99 Second Lieutenant 30 Rep 201 Posts Drives: E30 M3, 1M, Join Date: May 2011 Location: Middlesex, UK iTrader: (0)	Your supposed to be driving like Miss Daisy during run, so how people are able to say there "cars feel quicker" after the service is beyond me!
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RPMjunkie Private First Class 9 Rep 136 Posts Drives: 1M Coupe (Got 1) Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Mill Creek WA iTrader: (2)	I looked at my invoice and they did download a new code for mine, but it was related to my airbag light that came on during the service...or at least that is what they told me.
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11-20-2011, 05:12 PM	#22
mikeedler Enlisted Member 21 Rep 32 Posts Drives: E30 M3 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Bamberg Germany iTrader: (0)	there is no hook up to anything at the run in service for any M cars. That is all b.s. I work at a dealer here in Germany and have done the run in service on atleast 30 M cars in the last 5 years. Hooking the car up to the ISTA is only to run the trans pump on the M3/M5. sorry to let a couple of you down on that one. WOW, it is really unreal what they tell people over there in the States!
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