Pedal placement for heel-toe

Ascari · 11-05-2011, 07:46 PM

Guys, I\'m still only a couple of weeks in, and I will admit it feels more natural every day, but I feel like the distance between brake and throttle isnt perfect for heel-toe. Ideally, they would be a little closer, and if I was really picky, closer in height at rest position. Has anyone played around with adding an aftermarket pedal to the throttle to bring it up and over a little?

Like I say, I\'m getting more used to it, but it\'s not instantly natural.

Appreciate any thoughts.

toni8284 · 11-05-2011, 09:54 PM

For me, the distance is fine.

especially I did the 1200 mile service and turn on the M button the first time.

heel and toe is A LOT easier than before.

Ascari · 11-05-2011, 11:47 PM

Thats interesting - why?dont suppose you could post a photo?QUOTE=ianf2002;10749895]I think the distance is spot on. US cars have larger pedals than Oz though[/QUOTE]

sparoz · 11-06-2011, 04:04 AM

I learnt to heel toe in my 135i. Dont have any problem

gazz · 11-06-2011, 06:24 AM

Heel and toe works a lot better with the M button engaged. The blip only needs a slight dab whereas with the M button off the blip needs more of a shove on the throttle and I find that this makes the over servoed brake pedal too touchy. This is at lower speeds of course, at higher speeds there isn't a problem. I don't find the distance across the pedals a problem so much as the height difference between the brake and throttle. I do think it is something that could be made to work better with adjustable pedals. Unfortunately the 1M does not have this feature. Porsches have this down to a fine art in their cars with heel and toe so easy to perform at any speed you don't even have to think about it. Another car is the MX5, brilliant pedal / gearbox setup that works so intuitively. I wonder if a race shop could do a mod of the pedals? I'll look into it.

pixelblue · 11-06-2011, 08:10 AM

Totally agree with above. The height of the pedals are more of an issue than the spacing. Look into ultimatepedals.com. They make really nice custom pieces. You can get various extended pieces for the perfect placement

Dan Parker · 11-06-2011, 08:27 AM

Close your eyes and be one with the pedals...

ruf · 11-06-2011, 04:24 PM

for me stock pedals are just perfect ! M-button helps indeed.
Maybe repositioning your foot is the cheapest (better ?) solution ?
There's different heel-toe techniques, so maybe you have to adapt your technique to the one that's better suited for the 1M's pedals ?
Trial and error will lead to succes !

grant · 11-06-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ascari

I feel like the distance between brake and throttle isnt perfect for heel-toe. Ideally, they would be a little closer, and if I was really picky, closer in height at rest position.

My preference is that the brake and throttle pedals are the same height, during heavy braking (not at rest).

Sal@AUTOcouture · 11-06-2011, 06:13 PM

Had great results with the Rennline BMW pedals. Lots of happy customers.

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Ascari Second Lieutenant 11 Rep 249 Posts Drives: '11 AW 1M - 08 X3 MSport 3.0D Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	Pedal placement for heel-toe Guys, I\'m still only a couple of weeks in, and I will admit it feels more natural every day, but I feel like the distance between brake and throttle isnt perfect for heel-toe. Ideally, they would be a little closer, and if I was really picky, closer in height at rest position. Has anyone played around with adding an aftermarket pedal to the throttle to bring it up and over a little? Like I say, I\'m getting more used to it, but it\'s not instantly natural. Appreciate any thoughts.
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toni8284 Captain 137 Rep 718 Posts Drives: N/A Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Phila, PA iTrader: (5) Garage List 2011 BMW 1M [10.00] 2016 M3 [0.00]	For me, the distance is fine. especially I did the 1200 mile service and turn on the M button the first time. heel and toe is A LOT easier than before. __________________ 2021 F87 HS M2C 2018 F80 SO M3 (SOLD) 2016 F80 AY M3 (SOLD) 2014 F10 M5 LCI (SOLD) 2011 VO 1M (SOLD)
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Ascari Second Lieutenant 11 Rep 249 Posts Drives: '11 AW 1M - 08 X3 MSport 3.0D Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	Thats interesting - why?dont suppose you could post a photo?QUOTE=ianf2002;10749895]I think the distance is spot on. US cars have larger pedals than Oz though[/QUOTE]
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sparoz Brigadier General 191 Rep 4,848 Posts Drives: VO 1///M; Macan Turbo Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast iTrader: (0)	I learnt to heel toe in my 135i. Dont have any problem __________________ Macan S Diesel - Carrera White Macan Turbo - White 1///M - Valencia Orange
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gazz ///Mbassador 26 Rep 1,069 Posts Drives: The horse I fell off Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gold Coast Australia iTrader: (0)	Heel and toe works a lot better with the M button engaged. The blip only needs a slight dab whereas with the M button off the blip needs more of a shove on the throttle and I find that this makes the over servoed brake pedal too touchy. This is at lower speeds of course, at higher speeds there isn't a problem. I don't find the distance across the pedals a problem so much as the height difference between the brake and throttle. I do think it is something that could be made to work better with adjustable pedals. Unfortunately the 1M does not have this feature. Porsches have this down to a fine art in their cars with heel and toe so easy to perform at any speed you don't even have to think about it. Another car is the MX5, brilliant pedal / gearbox setup that works so intuitively. I wonder if a race shop could do a mod of the pedals? I'll look into it.
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pixelblue Colonel 140 Rep 2,234 Posts Drives: the silver bullet Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: northern virginia iTrader: (2) Garage List 2010 135i [8.90]	Totally agree with above. The height of the pedals are more of an issue than the spacing. Look into ultimatepedals.com. They make really nice custom pieces. You can get various extended pieces for the perfect placement __________________ "I would quote everything pixelblue said, but you've already read it. Take it from someone who's put the 1 through its paces"
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Dan Parker Major 79 Rep 1,421 Posts Drives: 2012 Golf R Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Georgia iTrader: (0)	Close your eyes and be one with the pedals... __________________ Dan Parker
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ruf Private 13 Rep 98 Posts Drives: 1M Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: BE iTrader: (0)	for me stock pedals are just perfect ! M-button helps indeed. Maybe repositioning your foot is the cheapest (better ?) solution ? There's different heel-toe techniques, so maybe you have to adapt your technique to the one that's better suited for the 1M's pedals ? Trial and error will lead to succes !
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Sal@AUTOcouture 733 Rep 10,105 Posts Drives: E93 M3, E36 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sofla iTrader: (30)	Had great results with the Rennline BMW pedals. Lots of happy customers.
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