My emails to/from GIAC

Neema · 06-12-2007, 02:26 AM

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CASHBY · 06-12-2007, 03:23 AM

not a fan of GIAC.... but the more the better

Coldintake · 06-12-2007, 03:54 AM

You sound 5 in the letter you wrote.

Neema · 06-12-2007, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Coldintake

You sound 5 in the letter you wrote.

Hah no I know....I was just trying to humor them a bit, I guess.

Neema · 06-12-2007, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CEA 3

not a fan of GIAC.... but the more the better

But I hear that they are amazing

baltik · 06-12-2007, 06:56 AM

Dear Santa...

RiXst3r · 06-12-2007, 07:29 AM

I *might* know someone who *might* be beta testing the GIAC software... I also heard it *might* have monsterous horsepower gains, and be an actual flash... but you didnt here it from me!

HyperM3 · 06-12-2007, 07:43 AM

I liked the GIAC on my a4, produced really good power gains. However, in this day and age, an ECU reflash is passe. You cant resell a flash when its time to get rid of the car. The piggy-back system is the best invention ever since it works on any car and isnt VIN specific. PLUS, upgrades are downloadable for the piggy-back. For any flash, you have to go back to your installer and pay a fee for the upgrade. Makes no sense.

S4to335 · 06-12-2007, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Boost_Nation

So I wanted some updates on GIAC's software being that Im waiting for them and expect them to be better then the rest of their compition so I emailed them. Heres what i said and what their response was:

Me: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE create and introduce an amazing,
reliable, powerful, smooth, and easy to install ECU flash/piggy back
for the BMW 335i Please, we re all dying for your software/hardware
The market only consists of haltech s PROcede, and the old XEDE s.
With just RDsport, AA Tuning, and Vishnu which is brand new to the BMW
scene currently offering products. Everyone knows how great GIAC
products are, so trust me when I say that the E90/92 crowd of 335i
owners is ready and waiting for your product

GIAC replies: We have an inhouse 335i we will developing on and an ECU we are
currently working on. We will definitely be releasing software for the
335s. If you like I can update you when we have something. Thank you
for your inquiry.

Best Regards,

Austin Wyly
www.GIACUSA.com

I reply back with:
Thanks alot for replying Austin, yes please inform me when the software is available. So are we to expect an ECU reflash or downloadable software, or a piggy back ECU system?

Waiting for their reply..........

I know Andrew C and Garrett Lim personally. Andrew, the General Manager, has a 335i himself. When I spoke to him about this several months ago he told me that Garrett is busy working on other projects..but will get to a 335i chip. I pinged them again recently..and got what you got from Austin. They dont know what they are doing yet..so you probably wont get an answer on what type of system they will come out with.

S4to335 · 06-12-2007, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RiXst3r

I *might* know someone who *might* be beta testing the GIAC software... I also heard it *might* have monsterous horsepower gains, and be an actual flash... but you didnt here it from me!

Someone associated with AWE?

ES BMW · 06-12-2007, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HyperM3

I liked the GIAC on my a4, produced really good power gains. However, in this day and age, an ECU reflash is passe. You cant resell a flash when its time to get rid of the car.

You could always get a second ECU and keep the original for trips to the dealer. Did that in my VW and an APR chip with no problems. I'm not a big fan of GIAC but it'll be interesting to see what they come up with.

judec · 06-12-2007, 10:36 AM

hmmm, a second ECU can make your additional ponies really expensive...

kujo · 06-12-2007, 10:49 AM

As Steve said, I know and have talked to Garret MONTHS ago.
I had all GIAC stuff in my Audi/VWs as well.

I'm betting it will be over a year before GIAC gets a flash available.

I've asked about getting a 2nd ECU as well, as this is another big Audi thing.
I think it's alot harder in a BMW as they really encode the ECM for each particular car. I think (think) this would be and is impossible to do with a Bimmer.

kj

chenyang · 06-12-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Boost_Nation

Hah no I know....I was just trying to humor them a bit, I guess.

You did a NICE JOB man!!!

I'm waiting too!

droptop335 · 06-12-2007, 10:53 AM

If you kept a stock ecu, would it have to be the entire ecu, or could it be just an internal compoent that can be swapped as needed? Forgive me if this sounds like a dumb question, as I'm not entirely knowledgeable on ecu's and how they are built.

MBMWTECH · 06-12-2007, 11:16 AM

Swapping ecu's on newer bmw's is not easy- the ecu (or dme as bmw calls it)
communicates with other control modules (ews) that have to see the same code (a rolling code - kind of like a garage door opener) with out the code matching the code in the other module the car will not start - so swapping ecu's is not possible.

I know on older ecu's you could swap out the eeprom. but on newer ones there are no replaceable parts. When a ecu goes bad we replace the whole thing>

Cadence · 06-12-2007, 11:25 AM

A GIAC reflash would be my first choice but since it will be months before they get something to market I will have to use one of the piggyback systems.

Terry335 · 06-12-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HyperM3

I liked the GIAC on my a4, produced really good power gains. However, in this day and age, an ECU reflash is passe. You cant resell a flash when its time to get rid of the car. The piggy-back system is the best invention ever since it works on any car and isnt VIN specific. PLUS, upgrades are downloadable for the piggy-back. For any flash, you have to go back to your installer and pay a fee for the upgrade. Makes no sense.

We've already been through this, they do the reflash ala hypertech and it makes the piggy-back passe!

HyperM3 · 06-12-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

We've already been through this, they do the reflash ala hypertech and it makes the piggy-back passe!

And where does one get the hypertech?

droptop335 · 06-12-2007, 11:32 AM

As someone with a lease, and no intention of keeping the car past lease-end, I'd like a system that is easily removed and put back to stock. I also want something I can remove before dropping the car off for service visits. I just don't want to take the chance on any warranty issues, especially if something breaks.

I've been reading this forum for several weeks now, and it appears to me that the "dream" upgrade would be a Procede-like unit that is 30-second true plug-and-play, like the Turbo Tuner. Now I know the Procede does a lot more with engine management and control than the TT, and makes more power, so I doubt it can ever get to the point where it will be P&P, but that would be nirvana.

So I may need to be satisfied with TT power levels unless someone else comes out with something that does more, but is still P&P.

Terry335 · 06-12-2007, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HyperM3

And where does one get the hypertech?

There is no 335 model, but the concept of loading a program from the reflasher, and then unloading it to resell works well. I believe accessport for the Suburu's also works that way.

hl0m4n · 06-12-2007, 11:44 AM

Giac+Turbos=

they are one of if not THE best turbo tuners out there...period!!

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HyperM3 Too many Alex's, from now on, call me Beaufort 342 Rep 6,188 Posts Drives: See Sig Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lawrenceville, NJ iTrader: (8)	I liked the GIAC on my a4, produced really good power gains. However, in this day and age, an ECU reflash is passe. You cant resell a flash when its time to get rid of the car. The piggy-back system is the best invention ever since it works on any car and isnt VIN specific. PLUS, upgrades are downloadable for the piggy-back. For any flash, you have to go back to your installer and pay a fee for the upgrade. Makes no sense. __________________ 13 HD FatBob 17 A4 Glacier/Black 1st Edition/Pre+/Sport/EurocodeTMD/Racechip 16 S6 (gone),14 S6 (gone),14 S6 (gone),13 S6 (gone),10 S4 (gone) 07 335i(gone)
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kujo Major 144 Rep 1,153 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: May 2006 Location: LA, CA USA iTrader: (1)	As Steve said, I know and have talked to Garret MONTHS ago. I had all GIAC stuff in my Audi/VWs as well. I'm betting it will be over a year before GIAC gets a flash available. I've asked about getting a 2nd ECU as well, as this is another big Audi thing. I think it's alot harder in a BMW as they really encode the ECM for each particular car. I think (think) this would be and is impossible to do with a Bimmer. kj
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droptop335 Captain 39 Rep 709 Posts Drives: '07 335i (E93) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Back in SF Bay Area (Tri-Valley), WooHoo! iTrader: (1)	If you kept a stock ecu, would it have to be the entire ecu, or could it be just an internal compoent that can be swapped as needed? Forgive me if this sounds like a dumb question, as I'm not entirely knowledgeable on ecu's and how they are built. __________________ Alpine White/Coral Red/Gray Poplar Convertible Sport/Prem/Step/Comfort/Nav/Sirius MHD Stage 1 Flash, M-Factory Helical LSD By the way people: USE YOUR F&*#ING TURN SIGNALS! Pass the word.
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MBMWTECH BMW TECH 9 Rep 104 Posts Drives: 2008 328I SEDAN - 2008 BMW 750 Join Date: May 2007 Location: SOUTH PLAINFIELD, N.J. iTrader: (0)	Swapping ecu's on newer bmw's is not easy- the ecu (or dme as bmw calls it) communicates with other control modules (ews) that have to see the same code (a rolling code - kind of like a garage door opener) with out the code matching the code in the other module the car will not start - so swapping ecu's is not possible. I know on older ecu's you could swap out the eeprom. but on newer ones there are no replaceable parts. When a ecu goes bad we replace the whole thing> __________________ Current Vehicles - 2007 335i Sedan & 2005 X5 3.0 Past Vehicles - 2002 525I, 2003 325 Loaded, 2006 330I CURRENT MODS: PROCEDE V.2 - DYNOTUNE DIGITAL BOOST GUAGE - K&N AIR FILTER- INTERMEDIATE CAT DELETE - LOGIC HVI -
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Cadence Private First Class 14 Rep 122 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cool iTrader: (0)	A GIAC reflash would be my first choice but since it will be months before they get something to market I will have to use one of the piggyback systems.
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droptop335 Captain 39 Rep 709 Posts Drives: '07 335i (E93) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Back in SF Bay Area (Tri-Valley), WooHoo! iTrader: (1)	As someone with a lease, and no intention of keeping the car past lease-end, I'd like a system that is easily removed and put back to stock. I also want something I can remove before dropping the car off for service visits. I just don't want to take the chance on any warranty issues, especially if something breaks. I've been reading this forum for several weeks now, and it appears to me that the "dream" upgrade would be a Procede-like unit that is 30-second true plug-and-play, like the Turbo Tuner. Now I know the Procede does a lot more with engine management and control than the TT, and makes more power, so I doubt it can ever get to the point where it will be P&P, but that would be nirvana. So I may need to be satisfied with TT power levels unless someone else comes out with something that does more, but is still P&P. __________________ Alpine White/Coral Red/Gray Poplar Convertible Sport/Prem/Step/Comfort/Nav/Sirius MHD Stage 1 Flash, M-Factory Helical LSD By the way people: USE YOUR F&*#ING TURN SIGNALS! Pass the word.
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