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      06-14-2007, 12:44 AM   #1
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Trying to decide 2007 G35s Sedan or 335i coupe

Have been involved in doin research for both cars for the past few weeks as im getting ready to sell my current car (04 dodge srt4) and trying to decide between the two...to start, the 07 sedan is ALOT less $ (fully loaded G35 is still cheaper than base model 335i)

Performance is very similar (without considering a chipped 335)

The ONLY thing that REALLY bugs me and makes me worrysome about the 335 is the fuel pump problem...how bad is it? what % would you say of owners experience problems from it? Im guessing 100% of owners will eventually have it in the shop for quite a while (the minimum ive seen of ppl leaving it at bmw is 2 weeks and max ive seen up to 3-4 months!!!)

This will be my first REAL luxury car and want to make the best decision

one last ?...what things does just the base model 335i coupe come with? all ive seen that interests me is the 6spd and red interior, thanks
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i went through this before i bought my 335i sedan. i ended up going with the 335i. i almost bought the g35 but i decided on the 335. iam sure you will have your chance to see
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why do you want the g35 sedan? if you're debating over this and the 335i coupe, then maybe you should wait for the g37 coupe? that might be a better comparison. however, i do love the g35 sedan (much better driver feel than the previous generation as well as a better interior). i still like the 335i coupe over it tho.
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the 335 sedan doesnt appeal to me TOO much, still gorgeous as hell, just like the coupe look better, the sedan to me is nicer than the g37 coupe...just my opinion
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First of all, you need to go test drive both cars. You are on a BMW forum so everybody will tell you to get a BMW, otherwise we would all be on the G35 forums...

But still....

If money is a problem, then you should probably go with the G35. The G35 is a better value for the money. But if you are looking for an awesome driving experience, style and performance...BMW is the way to go (in my opinion).

I test drove the G35 recently, just for fun...and it was nice... but it didn't have enough soul and the "drive me, feel me, play with me" attitude.

I haven't head of fuel pump issues in a long time. I believe they are all fixed now.
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Dude, its seriously not even a question, go test drive the two. it wont even take u a second to see that the 335 is the better car. Hell my 330Ci is better than the G35.
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are the fuel problems really all fixed on the ones on the lots now? i KNOW i would love the 335i if i could get in one with a 6spd and red interior for a good deal on a lease...i would love it more than the G, but its just the fuel problem that scares me
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Oh no, you may be that fraction of 1% of people with an issue and have to wait a week or so for a replacement. It's the end of the world!

You are completely overreacting. If money is an issue go with your G. You aren't going to get a deal on the 335i until CPO's are around. I've test driven most of the infiniti/lexus lineups and they pale in comparison to BMW. Why else do the asian car companies send over people to BMW to literally ask them how they do things so well? Everything in the asian cars feels so cheap and plasticy. The designs are horrid, imo. The engines generally aren't anymore reliable, and BMW is getting better fuel economy as well.

You can't really even compare the G35 coupe to the 335i coupe. I don't even see the G37 as much of a competitor in many regards.
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Yeah test drive, also if you are going for the G why not wait for the G37? Unless you can score a sweet deal on a G35. I looked into Infinity also after a little research obviously ended up with the 335 which is why I am here heheh. The G is a hot car though.
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Test drive them, thats the true way to tell. I agree with everyone. I'm in Japan a lot, and the really successful japanese drive BMW, Audi, Mercades. They don't drive their own cars lol.

I was all about subaru until i went to skip barber racing school and got to take a few bimmers on the track, impressed me. Here I am now, waiting for my 335XI when I return to the US.
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Oh no, you may be that fraction of 1% of people with an issue and have to wait a week or so for a replacement. It's the end of the world!

You are completely overreacting. If money is an issue go with your G. You aren't going to get a deal on the 335i until CPO's are around. I've test driven most of the infiniti/lexus lineups and they pale in comparison to BMW. Why else do the asian car companies send over people to BMW to literally ask them how they do things so well? Everything in the asian cars feels so cheap and plasticy. The designs are horrid, imo. The eninges generally aren't anymore reliable, and BMW is getting better fuel economy as well.

You can't really even compare the G35 coupe to the 335i coupe. I don't even see the G37 as much of a competitor in many regards.
Could not have said it better myself, totally agree!
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Have been involved in doin research for both cars for the past few weeks as im getting ready to sell my current car (04 dodge srt4) and trying to decide between the two...to start, the 07 sedan is ALOT less $ (fully loaded G35 is still cheaper than base model 335i)

Performance is very similar (without considering a chipped 335)

The ONLY thing that REALLY bugs me and makes me worrysome about the 335 is the fuel pump problem...how bad is it? what % would you say of owners experience problems from it? Im guessing 100% of owners will eventually have it in the shop for quite a while (the minimum ive seen of ppl leaving it at bmw is 2 weeks and max ive seen up to 3-4 months!!!)

This will be my first REAL luxury car and want to make the best decision

one last ?...what things does just the base model 335i coupe come with? all ive seen that interests me is the 6spd and red interior, thanks
I came from driving a modded, loaded '04.5 G35 Sedan and an '03 loaded FX35...both great cars. In Sept., '06, I test drove an '07 335i Coupe and in Nov., '06, I test drove the '07 G35 Sedan; I actually wanted the G35 Sedan to be closer in performance and feel as the BMW 335i...but it just wasn't. Three main reasons:

1. The Infiniti G35 still has that awful 5-speed AT, and in ManuMatic Mode, it still has about a 1/2 sec. upshift delay...it's horrible, and could only be helped by a full Grounding Gear kit (thick gauge grounding wires, which I had in my '04.5 G35 Sedan). The BMW 335i's ZF 6AT is sooooo silky smooth and lightning fast (<100ms upshifts)...the 335i's tranny is just leagues ahead of the G35's tranny. It's like nothing I've ever experienced before.
2. The G35's handing and "road feel," although better than the precious generation, still wasn't at the same level as the BMW 335i. The BMW's 51/49 weight ratio, steering, and suspension make for a much more connected drive.
3. The G35's VQ, although a great N/A engine, just doesn't really get going until after 4,500 rpm, and even then, it lacks the high TQ of the BMW 335i. The 335i's F/I high HP and high TQ, even way down low (1,500 rpm - 7,000 rpm) provide a much more exhilarating, fun drive.

Also, don't forget that if you add the $1,300 PROcede to the BMW 335i, you're talking about a whole new league of power and speed that even a modded G35 (without F/I) cannot touch...0-60mph in ~ 4.4-4.5 sec. and 1/4 mi. in ~ 12.5 - 12.8 sec. @ 108+mph. :rocks:

I do agree that the interior and electronics are very nice in the G35, but one thing to know is that aside from the 9.5GB HDD and RearView Camera, I have every option/feature in my 335i that I would've had I chosen the G35 (Comfort Access, Navi System w/ voice recog. and Real-Time Traffic Info, Active Cruise Control, Sat radio, Paddle Shifters, etc.) As others have said, the only way you'll know which one you really want is after you test drive both of them. Good luck.

btw -- don't worry about the 335i's fuel pump issues...it was in a small % of cars and AFAIK, it's been resolved with new builds.
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Well, if U're not convinced 4 BMW yet and U're a performance and handling fan, wait for the Skyline GT-R. Should be released soon. Much more fun like the g35/37, even if the price is an issue... 3.7L V6 biturbo, 500HP AWD, estimated 70k
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I would personally like to own a 335 Coupe but the fact of the matter is that you will pay $10k more for a car with similar options. I like the G37 Coupe which based on dyno's is around the 340 hp range, but you won't have any trunk space (7 sq ft.). The engine definitely won't be as good especially in modded form, but atleast the G35 does come with a limited slip.

I wouldn't be surprised if the G35 / G37 gets a new tranny in the coming years. When a Camry has a 6 speed automatic it just doesn't make sense to have a 5 speed in an Infiniti.

If you can afford $46k for the car, $1200 for a piggyback, $1400 for exhaust and $1600 for a limited slip, then the 335 is a no brainer. I have told people this before, but the BMW in opinion does everything well. You can live with it everyday as it has plenty of rear seat and trunk room. The handling is good enough to where you could use it at an autox, but it's also comfortable enough that you can enjoy a long trip in it as well. Then the P factor is higher in the BMW as well, even though I do think both car look very good.

But considering you can get a G35S for $36k.... is it really worth the extra $10k+? My choice is probably going to be G35S Sedan with me funding an EVO VIII for race weekends. If I had the money though then the 335 would be the car... or maybe I am just tight lol.
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the 335 sedan doesnt appeal to me TOO much, still gorgeous as hell, just like the coupe look better, the sedan to me is nicer than the g37 coupe...just my opinion

i agree !!! the coupe 335 is one of the hottest cars out!
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I came from driving a modded, loaded '04.5 G35 Sedan and an '03 loaded FX35...both great cars. In Sept., '06, I test drove an '07 335i Coupe and in Nov., '06, I test drove the '07 G35 Sedan; I actually wanted the G35 Sedan to be closer in performance and feel as the BMW 335i...but it just wasn't. Three main reasons:

1. The Infiniti G35 still has that awful 5-speed AT, and in ManuMatic Mode, it still has about a 1/2 sec. upshift delay...it's horrible, and could only be helped by a full Grounding Gear kit (thick gauge grounding wires, which I had in my '04.5 G35 Sedan). The BMW 335i's ZF 6AT is sooooo silky smooth and lightning fast (<100ms upshifts)...the 335i's tranny is just leagues ahead of the G35's tranny. It's like nothing I've ever experienced before.
2. The G35's handing and "road feel," although better than the precious generation, still wasn't at the same level as the BM# 335i. The BMW's 51/49 weight ratio, steering, and suspension make for a much more connected drive.
3. The G35's VQ, although a great N/A engine, just doesn't really get going until after 4,500 rpm, and even then, it lacks the high TQ of the BMW 335i. The 335i's F/I high HP and high TQ, even way down low (1,500 rpm - 7,000 rpm) provide a much more exhilarating, fun drive.

Also, don't forget that if you add the $1,300 PROcede to the BMW 335i, you're talking about a whole new league of power and speed that even a modded G35 (without F/I) cannot touch...0-60mph in ~ 4.4-4.5 sec. and 1/4 mi. in ~ 12.5 - 12/8 sec. @ 108+mph. :rocks:

I do agree that the interior and electronics are very nice in the G35, but one thing to know is that aside from the 9.5GB HDD, I have every option/feature in my 335i that I would've had I chosen the G35 (Comfort Access, Navi System w/ voice recog. and Real-Time Traffic Info, Active Cruise Control, Sat radio, Paddle Shifters, etc.) As others have said, the only way you'll know which one you really want is after you test drive both of them. Good luck.

btw -- don't worry about the 335i's fuel pump issues...it was in a small % of cars and AFAIK, it's been resolved with new builds.


nice write up buddie!

yeah a car with a lousy tranny just plan sucks
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G35's manual tranny is pretty good. It's the slushbox that sucks. It's about 5-8 years behind compared to BMW's and even the Camry's 6AT which is the same one in the IS350/ES350 which I've heard good things about. Get a stripped down 335i with only sport package and you will be very happy. It already comes with alot of standard features...
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I think the G35 looks cheap.. inside and out. I think the 335i coupe looks like a $45K should look. Hence I'm in a e90 forum and owning a 335i, but I didn't make this decision by asking people on here. I went and test drove cars, and read some independent reviews.
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I've read most of the posts here and would like to make a few statements...

1 gas mileage will be less with the g35
2 might as well wait for the g37 coupe.
3 good luck getting a 335i coupe before you could get a g37
4 the g35 has the 10GB hard drive thats kinda quirky to add music etc to but the 335i has an ipod interface that allows way more then 10GB.
5 the 6 disc in dash or rear trunk of the g35/37 supports mp3s... the DVD drive for the NAV in the 335i supports MP3.
6 while the g35/37 will have more gadgets... like rear backup camera... the 335i has a few xtra features like, reverse gear passenger mirror down, programming fan on a set time to blow out a hot car, fan on when car is turned off, onstar or whatever bmw calls it.
7 the NAG screen in the infiniti will not allow any navigation changes while moving, the 335i will allow changes at any time.
8 cost to own the infiniti will be less and imo last longer.
9 leather in the infiniti is lacking, the bmw is better.
10 heated seats may still be a problem with the infiniti (not hot enough)
11 335i expensive runflats and no spare.
12 lsd on the G vs none on the 335i
13 better service with infiniti(infiniti is trying to compete against bmw, they are doing everything they can to establish an upscale reputation)

fuel pump problems on the 335i... i dont care , the newer cars supposidly have a revised pump, and you'll have 4 year warranty incase of problems. personally I'd be more concerned over the oil lvl sensor !!!.

almost always will i recommend the G35 or G37 to people asking.
imo it provides the best bang for the buck.

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If you're looking for a driver's car... the 335i wins in acceleration, slalom, and on the track (fact).

The brakes are better (fact).

The ride is better (opinion).

It looks better (opinion).

For $1300 you can put on a Procede and add at minimum 40HP and 80 ft-lbs (v2 may double HP increase to 80.. ohh.. and at the wheels) (fact).

If you're in to what people think, then you'll get more response driving a BMW than a Nissan.. umm... Infiniti (opinion).

Not sure how it's easy to pick the G35 other than the 335i costs too much for you, then the G35 might be an ok option.
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