Dilemma: Lightweight wheels & tires or BMW performance exhaust

Blk07335i · 06-06-2012, 07:43 PM

Just got a 2012 335i convertible with MSport package. I'm in the market for some mods but can't decide between dropping some unsprung weight or getting a more aggressive exhaust note. Probably get more performance from the wheel and tire change but the performance exhaust sounds great. BTW, with the wheels I'm looking at I should be able to drop at least 10 lbs per corner.

wren57 · 06-06-2012, 07:53 PM

Wheels. They make such a dramatic impact in acceleration, braking, and handling that it's a no brainer. With the vert being such a pig it will really really help.

E90Company · 06-06-2012, 07:55 PM

Performance exhaust. All go, no show

pits200 · 06-06-2012, 07:56 PM

Not even a contest. Wheels 100%, exhaust does nothing for performance and looks, only for sound.

Wheel help performance and make the car look much better, obviously if you pick out tasteful rims. And the 335 already has a pretty good exhaust sound to begin with.

Flyer · 06-06-2012, 07:57 PM

Exhaust first. Then by the time you wear out the current tires, you will have saved up enough for the wheels...

tmo24 · 06-06-2012, 07:59 PM

What do you enjoy more? Listening to a bad ass exhaust or going faster and looking better?

gary88 · 06-06-2012, 08:01 PM

Dropping 10lbs per corner will make a huge difference, go for the wheels/tires for sure.

TwinTurboXI · 06-06-2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyer

Exhaust first. Then by the time you wear out the current tires, you will have saved up enough for the wheels...

This.

You should already have some pretty nice stock wheels with the Msport pack. Not light though with the runflats

Blk07335i · 06-06-2012, 08:15 PM

Thanks for the suggestions although it seems to be divided equally! Definitely more interested in improving acceleration first. The OEMs are the 230 style 19" which are nice but I weighed the front and it came in at 51 lbs so there is room for improvement.

DMafia46 · 06-06-2012, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wren57

Wheels. They make such a dramatic impact in acceleration, braking, and handling that it's a no brainer. With the vert being such a pig it will really really help.

huge pig. Can post the weight of coupe and convertible ?

wren57 · 06-06-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DMafia46

huge pig. Can post the weight of coupe and convertible ?

Coupe - 3,560
Convertible - 3,979

bmwforme · 06-06-2012, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DMafia46

huge pig. Can post the weight of coupe and convertible ?

335i Coupe weighs in according to BMW at 3582 lbs... depending on options while the 335i vert weighs 4001 lbs.. huge difference, that retractable top weighs a lott

Soliditude · 06-06-2012, 08:56 PM

How about this? Consider getting the BMW PPK Stage 1 Software, which will make your heavier vert much closer to par with a regular coupe. 20 extra horses, 32 extra torques (auto) and a louder exhaust note that you will enjoy every time. You get best of both worlds. That what I would do. And yes, the improved exhaust note--without switching your exhaust--does get noticeably louder.

Soliditude · 06-06-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Blk07335i

Thanks for the suggestions although it seems to be divided equally! Definitely more interested in improving acceleration first. The OEMs are the 230 style 19" which are nice but I weighed the front and it came in at 51 lbs so there is room for improvement.

Oh, and yes, the PPK 1 will greatly improve your acceleration; far more than light wheels or axle-back. Far more. All for a fraction of the cost, too. LOL, I should be a salesman for BMW.

wren57 · 06-06-2012, 08:59 PM

I'm willing to bet losing 40lbs of unsprung weight does more than 20hp. If you want a louder exhaust, just do the golf tee mod.

chimichangaz · 06-06-2012, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pits200

Not even a contest. Wheels 100%, exhaust does nothing for performance and looks, only for sound.

And the 335 already has a pretty good exhaust sound to begin with.

of course exhaust can make performance better, they are just costly.

but a 335 does have a good stock exhaust sound

PeteW84 · 06-06-2012, 11:41 PM

Since the E93 is quite heavy, I would start with the wheels, then tune, exhaust etc.

sathoro · 06-07-2012, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wren57

I'm willing to bet losing 40lbs of unsprung weight does more than 20hp. If you want a louder exhaust, just do the golf tee mod.

If I'm not mistaken, the golf tee mod really only improves the exhaust noise when the car is still cold and the valves would be closed otherwise. I don't think that there is really a noticeable difference once your car has warmed up and you are a mile from home.

edirtaynine · 06-07-2012, 02:12 AM

wheels > exhaust

idrift4wd · 06-07-2012, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by edirtaynine

wheels > exhaust

SilverII · 06-07-2012, 07:30 AM

both

mmmmQuattro · 06-07-2012, 07:40 AM

Don't bother with an exhaust, do downpipes first
The sound is better and the way the turbo spools is fantastic.
Which wheels are the lightest to get that don't cost a mint?

06-06-2012, 07:43 PM	#1
Blk07335i Captain 61 Rep 938 Posts Drives: 2024 G87 M2 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston area iTrader: (4)	Dilemma: Lightweight wheels & tires or BMW performance exhaust Just got a 2012 335i convertible with MSport package. I'm in the market for some mods but can't decide between dropping some unsprung weight or getting a more aggressive exhaust note. Probably get more performance from the wheel and tire change but the performance exhaust sounds great. BTW, with the wheels I'm looking at I should be able to drop at least 10 lbs per corner.
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wren57 Roll Tide 591 Rep 2,345 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St Louis iTrader: (10)	Wheels. They make such a dramatic impact in acceleration, braking, and handling that it's a no brainer. With the vert being such a pig it will really really help.
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E90Company Major General 194 Rep 6,136 Posts Drives: Car Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL iTrader: (2)	Performance exhaust. All go, no show
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pits200 Colonel 547 Rep 2,590 Posts Drives: 09 335i X-Drive Black Sapphire Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pittsburgh iTrader: (1)	Not even a contest. Wheels 100%, exhaust does nothing for performance and looks, only for sound. Wheel help performance and make the car look much better, obviously if you pick out tasteful rims. And the 335 already has a pretty good exhaust sound to begin with.
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Flyer Captain 21 Rep 766 Posts Drives: 2011 e92xi Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Richmond, VA iTrader: (8)	Exhaust first. Then by the time you wear out the current tires, you will have saved up enough for the wheels...
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Blk07335i Captain 61 Rep 938 Posts Drives: 2024 G87 M2 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston area iTrader: (4)	Thanks for the suggestions although it seems to be divided equally! Definitely more interested in improving acceleration first. The OEMs are the 230 style 19" which are nice but I weighed the front and it came in at 51 lbs so there is room for improvement.
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Soliditude First Lieutenant 18 Rep 341 Posts Drives: 2011 335i xDrive M-sport Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (0)	How about this? Consider getting the BMW PPK Stage 1 Software, which will make your heavier vert much closer to par with a regular coupe. 20 extra horses, 32 extra torques (auto) and a louder exhaust note that you will enjoy every time. You get best of both worlds. That what I would do. And yes, the improved exhaust note--without switching your exhaust--does get noticeably louder. __________________ '11 6AT 335i xDrive ///M BMW PPK Stage 1
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wren57 Roll Tide 591 Rep 2,345 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St Louis iTrader: (10)	I'm willing to bet losing 40lbs of unsprung weight does more than 20hp. If you want a louder exhaust, just do the golf tee mod.
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PeteW84 COBB'ed 65 Rep 2,228 Posts Drives: 13 Mini Cooper S Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tinley Park, IL iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 335i [7.56]	Since the E93 is quite heavy, I would start with the wheels, then tune, exhaust etc. __________________ 13 Mini Cooper S 08 E92 335i (SOLD)
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edirtaynine Major General 81 Rep 6,092 Posts Drives: e92 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	wheels > exhaust __________________ e90post killed plastidip Just say no to painted stock wheels jm3as hooks it up
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SilverII Colonel 40 Rep 2,334 Posts Drives: '11 335IS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: DFW iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 335IS [9.66]	both
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mmmmQuattro Major 259 Rep 1,165 Posts Drives: f83 / E93 335 / E70 X5 40d Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Adelaide, South Australia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 320 E91 M-Spor ... [0.00] 2009 335-E93 M-Sport [0.00]	Don't bother with an exhaust, do downpipes first The sound is better and the way the turbo spools is fantastic. Which wheels are the lightest to get that don't cost a mint?
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