Car worse after detail?

newtobimmer23 · 06-26-2012, 04:16 PM

I recently got my car detailed by a reputable detail center and I'm not sure what to make of it. The paint is exceptionally smooth and great shine. In indirect sunlight, the car looks great and almost brand new.

Sitting in the garage under led and halogen lights, the car looks stunning. However, in direct sunlight, it seems there is some haze going on or the sun hitting the panels and just a weird effect going on that wasn't there before.

Not sure if it is too much product and after a hand wash, it'll be fine or there is damage done. What can it possibly be and what can I do to remedy it? Thanks.

tofu- · 06-26-2012, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by newtobimmer23

I recently got my car detailed by a reputable detail center and I'm not sure what to make of it. The paint is exceptionally smooth and great shine. In indirect sunlight, the car looks great and almost brand new.

Sitting in the garage under led and halogen lights, the car looks stunning. However, in direct sunlight, it seems there is some haze going on or the sun hitting the panels and just a weird effect going on that wasn't there before.

Not sure if it is too much product and after a hand wash, it'll be fine or there is damage done. What can it possibly be and what can I do to remedy it? Thanks.

pics?

darkw1sh · 06-26-2012, 05:15 PM

OTDet · 06-26-2012, 05:16 PM

OMG....o no....picture please

SubtleAggressiv · 06-26-2012, 05:17 PM

Pics please.

Also when you say detailed does that include paint correction?

newtobimmer23 · 06-26-2012, 06:51 PM

Thanks for the replies, attached pics taken from phone. Basically I emphasized the hood since it was hard to get pics of other panels with phone camera. However, it looks worse to the eyes...

newtobimmer23 · 06-26-2012, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SubtleAggressiv

Pics please.

Also when you say detailed does that include paint correction?

Yeah, it was meant to take out swirl marks with a polisher.

psnt1ol · 06-26-2012, 08:15 PM

its hard to tell from the pics. was it a one stage correction or 2? was it wax or sealant. when did you notice this? a day after? 2 days?

Bobble · 06-27-2012, 10:20 AM

What was the LSP used? If high carnuaba content wax then it's wax hazing and that should dispappear after a wash or diminish over a few days. Generally too much product leads to a hazy finish but a good wash will remedy it.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 06-27-2012, 10:45 AM

It looks like you have some holograms? I can't tell from the pics but that means they used incorrect techniques (usually too fast) while buffing.

You should have them correct it or depending on where you live I can recommend a specialist in your area perhaps.

If its just hazy it will likely go away over time. The sun is considered the "light of the truth", so anything you see in the sun is truly there.

newtobimmer23 · 06-27-2012, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobble

What was the LSP used? If high carnuaba content wax then it's wax hazing and that should dispappear after a wash or diminish over a few days. Generally too much product leads to a hazy finish but a good wash will remedy it.

Is there any way I can tell whether it is wax hazing or something else without washing the car?

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Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

It looks like you have some holograms? I can't tell from the pics but that means they used incorrect techniques (usually too fast) while buffing.

You should have them correct it or depending on where you live I can recommend a specialist in your area perhaps.

If its just hazy it will likely go away over time. The sun is considered the "light of the truth", so anything you see in the sun is truly there.

How can I tell whether it is wax haze or something else? It almost seems like fine scratches. If I wash a certain area with soap/water and it goes away, it is probably just too much product?

Will it be an easy fix if I bring it back to them or what is the process if it is damaged? Thanks.

kjang · 06-27-2012, 05:09 PM

If you can feel the scratches, then there you go. See if you can determine if they are scratches or not; to be honest, if I were in your situation I would have already attempted to come to a conclusion.

If they aren't scratches, then you should be able to wipe a part off with your finger. If that's the case, just give the car a wash.

tofu- · 06-27-2012, 05:43 PM

could be from the wax since they are all in one direction

they didn't do any wet sanding did they?

Bobble · 06-27-2012, 06:34 PM

Wax hazing will go away after the wax gases out in a few days.
Do you have any better pictures, hard to tell if that holograms or what in the picture?
Do you know what they used Rotary or a DA, what polishes what LSP? If not best bet go back and ask them to fix it, if not comfortable with that post that up and get some recs for pros in your area, they'll fix it but it will cost more. Also East Coast is a bit ambiguous where are you located for the recs?

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newtobimmer23 New Member 1 Rep 25 Posts Drives: e90 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: sf bay area iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the replies, attached pics taken from phone. Basically I emphasized the hood since it was hard to get pics of other panels with phone camera. However, it looks worse to the eyes...
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psnt1ol Lieutenant 31 Rep 547 Posts Drives: e90 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: san francisco iTrader: (0)	its hard to tell from the pics. was it a one stage correction or 2? was it wax or sealant. when did you notice this? a day after? 2 days? __________________ What is absolute control???? Having the means and the abilities to exercise it at will but....chooses not to.
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Bobble Major 56 Rep 1,232 Posts Drives: Whatever POS the wife leaves Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (1)	What was the LSP used? If high carnuaba content wax then it's wax hazing and that should dispappear after a wash or diminish over a few days. Generally too much product leads to a hazy finish but a good wash will remedy it.
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Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3441 Rep 79,211 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	It looks like you have some holograms? I can't tell from the pics but that means they used incorrect techniques (usually too fast) while buffing. You should have them correct it or depending on where you live I can recommend a specialist in your area perhaps. If its just hazy it will likely go away over time. The sun is considered the "light of the truth", so anything you see in the sun is truly there.
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kjang Private 0 Rep 58 Posts Drives: 2006 Barrique Red 325i Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Central New Jersey iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 BMW 325i [0.00]	If you can feel the scratches, then there you go. See if you can determine if they are scratches or not; to be honest, if I were in your situation I would have already attempted to come to a conclusion. If they aren't scratches, then you should be able to wipe a part off with your finger. If that's the case, just give the car a wash.
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Bobble Major 56 Rep 1,232 Posts Drives: Whatever POS the wife leaves Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (1)	Wax hazing will go away after the wax gases out in a few days. Do you have any better pictures, hard to tell if that holograms or what in the picture? Do you know what they used Rotary or a DA, what polishes what LSP? If not best bet go back and ask them to fix it, if not comfortable with that post that up and get some recs for pros in your area, they'll fix it but it will cost more. Also East Coast is a bit ambiguous where are you located for the recs?
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