Michelin Pilot Sports

SDYANKEE · 07-19-2007, 08:29 PM

Got my car back from service today to remove some interior squeeking, and I got to talking to the parts guy over at BMW of SD, and we just starting talking about how much we both hated RFTs, and he had the suggestion to making the switch to Michelin Pilot Sport tires, which I know are pretty good and sticky tires. I think the M3 uses the PS2s and has something like .07g better on the skidpad than a sport package equipped 335 does.

Has anyone made the change to the Pilot Sports from RFTs? Was it worth it? I know those tires are less than the RFTs, and my tires have about 3k miles on them, so if I am going to get rid of those suckers, I want to do it immediately. Thanks for the input...searched around for a bit but only came up with Pilot Sport on posted reviews of the E92 M3. Thanks!

m4tte F82 · 07-19-2007, 08:36 PM

I changed to Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's (235 19's in front and 265 19's in the back) and have been happy with them - there was a good Tirerack sponsored study in Car and Driver a year or more ago using the 3-series, and I liked how these performed - a good balance of dry and wet performance. I hear good things about the Pilot Sports too though.

halB · 07-19-2007, 08:37 PM

When you do away with RFT the ride will improve for sure and handling won't suffer. The Pilot Sports PS2 and Goodyear F1 GS D3 are both excellent tires. The PS2 is better on dry road and the F1 is unbeatable in the wet.

LOLrance · 07-19-2007, 08:40 PM

Im sure there are plenty of owners that are now running pilot sports and they'll chime in. They are awesome tires. The PS2's are almost unbeatable (besides r comps) for dry traction. The GS-D3 (eagle f1) are excellent as well and they're great for the wet conditions.

Garissimo · 07-19-2007, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SDYANKEE

Has anyone made the change to the Pilot Sports from RFTs? Was it worth it? I know those tires are less than the RFTs, and my tires have about 3k miles on them, so if I am going to get rid of those suckers, I want to do it immediately. Thanks for the input...searched around for a bit but only came up with Pilot Sport on posted reviews of the E92 M3. Thanks!

I recently made the change from Dunlop 8080s(?) to Pilot Sport PS2s on my E39 M5. Not quite an apples to apples comparison to your 335i but I can vouch for these tires as being quiet, grippy, communicative and decent in the rain. Worth the price. Only downside is the low treadwear rating which is the tradeoff with a high performance tire.

Fraggy · 07-19-2007, 09:01 PM

I had several sets of PS2s on my E46 and just loved them, they really are all they are claimed to be.

I will put them on my E90 once my Kuhmo's wear out, I just couldnt affored them at the time as I was doing, wheels and suspension upgrades all at once.

sflgator · 07-19-2007, 09:16 PM

The Mich. PS2s are phenomenal...much better traction and handling than the RFTs, especially for when you have PROcede.

montreal_bimmer · 07-19-2007, 09:42 PM

PS2's are if not THE best, then one of the best performing tires out there on the market IMO... amazing tires

335xi · 07-19-2007, 09:49 PM

BTW PS2 now come in a run flat version, with tires available in the staggered sport package 18" sizes. My boss just got a set for his Z4.

Cadillac Johnson · 07-19-2007, 10:09 PM

PS2's are the best max performance summer tire out there, IMO.

Still not in the league of an extreme performance tire, but at the top of the level just below.

Craigito · 07-19-2007, 10:40 PM

Never switched from RFT's but my PS2's on my Audi were the best tires i've ever owned bar none. Just as grippy as the B.Stone Pole Positions and even quieter and like twice the treadware as the B.stones ( I barely got 12K out of the Pole Position S03's). They would be my first choice if I were looking to upgrade.

SDYANKEE · 07-20-2007, 12:46 AM

You guys (and gals) are awesome, thanks a lot for the input, makes my decision a bit easier now...just have to sell those damn RFTs now, haha. I will go with the PS2s though, as I live in San Diego and really have no need for great 'wet' tires.

Park2670 · 07-20-2007, 11:38 AM

I love my PS2s. Fantastic tire, handles very well. And are also quiet for their size

sflgator · 07-20-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SDYANKEE

You guys (and gals) are awesome, thanks a lot for the input, makes my decision a bit easier now...just have to sell those damn RFTs now, haha. I will go with the PS2s though, as I live in San Diego and really have no need for great 'wet' tires.

The PS2s are also very good in the rain as well as hot, dry pavement.

Park2670 · 07-20-2007, 12:10 PM

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The PS2s are also very good in the rain as well as hot, dry pavement.

I put mine on in march (little excited) and they dont like cold pavement, at all!

jimlai322 · 07-20-2007, 01:11 PM

I have PS2's also. The only thing I dont like is how thick the side walls, I like the lower profile look.

sflgator · 07-20-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Park2670

I put mine on in march (little excited) and they dont like cold pavement, at all!

Yeah, we don't have cold pavement where I'm located, but we do have a lot of heavy rain now and then.

F32Fleet · 07-20-2007, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 335xi

BTW PS2 now come in a run flat version, with tires available in the staggered sport package 18" sizes. My boss just got a set for his Z4.

Not sold in US..yet.

Park2670 · 07-20-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sflgator

Yeah, we don't have cold pavement where I'm located, but we do have a lot of heavy rain now and then.

Oh youre missing out. Snow and cold are so great

Actually I hate it.

dot1q · 07-20-2007, 07:05 PM

:rocks:I switch out the OE Tires replace it with PS2 and boyz what a different.

bnj · 07-21-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SDYANKEE

Got my car back from service today to remove some interior squeeking, and I got to talking to the parts guy over at BMW of SD, and we just starting talking about how much we both hated RFTs, and he had the suggestion to making the switch to Michelin Pilot Sport tires, which I know are pretty good and sticky tires. I think the M3 uses the PS2s and has something like .07g better on the skidpad than a sport package equipped 335 does.

Has anyone made the change to the Pilot Sports from RFTs? Was it worth it? I know those tires are less than the RFTs, and my tires have about 3k miles on them, so if I am going to get rid of those suckers, I want to do it immediately. Thanks for the input...searched around for a bit but only came up with Pilot Sport on posted reviews of the E92 M3. Thanks!

The skidpad gets worse with PS2. Test it with Bridgestones, make the change and test again. You will see

MisterBMW · 07-29-2007, 09:45 PM

How does CSC3 compare against PS2?

07-19-2007, 08:29 PM	#1
SDYANKEE Private First Class 11 Rep 124 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (2)	Michelin Pilot Sports Got my car back from service today to remove some interior squeeking, and I got to talking to the parts guy over at BMW of SD, and we just starting talking about how much we both hated RFTs, and he had the suggestion to making the switch to Michelin Pilot Sport tires, which I know are pretty good and sticky tires. I think the M3 uses the PS2s and has something like .07g better on the skidpad than a sport package equipped 335 does. Has anyone made the change to the Pilot Sports from RFTs? Was it worth it? I know those tires are less than the RFTs, and my tires have about 3k miles on them, so if I am going to get rid of those suckers, I want to do it immediately. Thanks for the input...searched around for a bit but only came up with Pilot Sport on posted reviews of the E92 M3. Thanks! __________________
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m4tte F82 Private First Class 6 Rep 161 Posts Drives: 2018 M4 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii iTrader: (0)	I changed to Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's (235 19's in front and 265 19's in the back) and have been happy with them - there was a good Tirerack sponsored study in Car and Driver a year or more ago using the 3-series, and I liked how these performed - a good balance of dry and wet performance. I hear good things about the Pilot Sports too though. __________________ 2018 F82 M4 coupe/m4tte black/Sakhir Orange/Bootmod3 stage 1
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halB Colonel 53 Rep 2,384 Posts Drives: W211 E350 4M MkV GTI 987.2 S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Just north of Toronto iTrader: (0)	When you do away with RFT the ride will improve for sure and handling won't suffer. The Pilot Sports PS2 and Goodyear F1 GS D3 are both excellent tires. The PS2 is better on dry road and the F1 is unbeatable in the wet. __________________ 07 E93 335i - Returned at lease end 09 W211 E350 4Matic Avant Garde - Blk/Blk, AMG pkg w/18". Sport Susp. F1 Asym. Debadged. 09 MkV GTI w/Leather & 18" Huffs. F1 Asym 10 987.2 S w/Leather sport seat, Sport Chrono, 19" Carrera S II wheels
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LOLrance The Law. 301 Rep 14,283 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SF / OC iTrader: (17)	Im sure there are plenty of owners that are now running pilot sports and they'll chime in. They are awesome tires. The PS2's are almost unbeatable (besides r comps) for dry traction. The GS-D3 (eagle f1) are excellent as well and they're great for the wet conditions. __________________
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Fraggy Brigadier General 193 Rep 3,469 Posts Drives: 2016 M3 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Diego iTrader: (11)	I had several sets of PS2s on my E46 and just loved them, they really are all they are claimed to be. I will put them on my E90 once my Kuhmo's wear out, I just couldnt affored them at the time as I was doing, wheels and suspension upgrades all at once. __________________ 2016 Alpine White M3 (gone) 2019 Alfa Romeo Guilia (Totaled) 2020 Car-less 😁 (no more) 2020 M340
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sflgator Major General 148 Rep 5,389 Posts Drives: '09 MB C63 AMG & '08 MB GL450 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: U.S. iTrader: (1)	The Mich. PS2s are phenomenal...much better traction and handling than the RFTs, especially for when you have PROcede. __________________ \|2009 RENNtech MB C63 AMG \| Black/Black Leather/Black Maple \| Premium II \| MultiMedia \| iPod \| \| TeleAid \| Charcoal Filter Delete \| BMC High-Flow Air Filters \| High-Flow Secondary Cats \| Clear Side Markers \|
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montreal_bimmer OEMconcept 174 Rep 5,593 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canada \| USA iTrader: (6) Garage List 2006 325i [10.00]	PS2's are if not THE best, then one of the best performing tires out there on the market IMO... amazing tires
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335xi Private 3 Rep 92 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	BTW PS2 now come in a run flat version, with tires available in the staggered sport package 18" sizes. My boss just got a set for his Z4.
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Cadillac Johnson Free taco with stolen base 28 Rep 639 Posts Drives: 335i? GTR? RS5? Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Milwaukee iTrader: (0)	PS2's are the best max performance summer tire out there, IMO. Still not in the league of an extreme performance tire, but at the top of the level just below.
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Craigito Captain 128 Rep 836 Posts Drives: 16' F82 M4 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0) Garage List 2020 BMW M4 [10.00]	Never switched from RFT's but my PS2's on my Audi were the best tires i've ever owned bar none. Just as grippy as the B.Stone Pole Positions and even quieter and like twice the treadware as the B.stones ( I barely got 12K out of the Pole Position S03's). They would be my first choice if I were looking to upgrade. __________________ *Previous Ride* 2007 335I Coupe / Space / Black Dakota / Gray Poplar / ZSP / ZPP / Step / Paddles / Nav / Hot Seats / IPOD/ Xpel HL *Current Ride* 2016 M4 / Mineral Gray / DCT/ Full Black Leather / 19in Gunmetal / Executive /LED/Ohlinds RT/SSR DP-CP-Intake/AP Essex 9668/Bootmod STG 2/DINAN HE
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SDYANKEE Private First Class 11 Rep 124 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (2)	You guys (and gals) are awesome, thanks a lot for the input, makes my decision a bit easier now...just have to sell those damn RFTs now, haha. I will go with the PS2s though, as I live in San Diego and really have no need for great 'wet' tires. __________________
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Park2670 General 355 Rep 18,218 Posts Drives: Tesla Model 3 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UTAH iTrader: (8)	I love my PS2s. Fantastic tire, handles very well. And are also quiet for their size __________________
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jimlai322 Captain 38 Rep 853 Posts Drives: E60 535i & E90 325i Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (4)	I have PS2's also. The only thing I dont like is how thick the side walls, I like the lower profile look. __________________ 2008 SG E60 535i 2006 AW E90 325i
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dot1q Enlisted Member 0 Rep 32 Posts Drives: E92 335i Coupe Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Northen NJ iTrader: (0)	:rocks:I switch out the OE Tires replace it with PS2 and boyz what a different. __________________ Alpine White/Black/Gray Poplar Auto\|Prem\|Nav\|CA\|Sport\|PDC\|Rearshade\|Heatseat
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MisterBMW Private First Class 7 Rep 167 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Asia iTrader: (0)	How does CSC3 compare against PS2?
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