10-06-2012, 02:22 PM | #1 |
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M3 to 1m - how many of you are there? Regrets?
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I apologize as I am certain this topic was touched on over the last year, however, I am on my phone due to the Internet being out and have no search tool. Have any of u 1m owners been previous e9x m3 owners? If so, do u miss your m3? Do you love your 1m? Anything I need to be aware of should I decide to switch up to the 1m from my e90 m3? I have an option to pick ups Valencia orange 1m for relatively cheap and was about to test drive it but was looking for any open, honest feedback from owners in similar positions. Any info is appreciated (even those telling me to use the search tool as this is essentially a free bump! )
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10-06-2012, 04:56 PM | #2 |
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Opinions don't matter in my opinion. Drive it for yourself. the car speaks for itself. I chose the 1M over the E90 M3. It was not an easy decision but the bottom line is you the 1M is more fun around town, very, very, very rare and you can always get an M3. There are a ton of M3s out there and very few 1Ms. the proof is in the drive! Go drive it!!!!!
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10-06-2012, 07:41 PM | #4 |
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I too choose the 1M over the e92 M3. The 1M is ~350lbs lighter with 100 pound feet more torque available from just over idle, offers a much more involving driving experience and is ultra rare.
For me it was a very simple choice.
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10-06-2012, 10:37 PM | #6 |
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Easy. In 2008, I sold my E46 M3 to my dad to buy an E92 M3. Honestly never fell in love with the E92. Read about the 1M and immediately knew this is the car I was looking for. Got on the list and bought it in 11/11 (new). Sold the E92 and bought back the E46. Now I have the 1M and E46. I don't miss the E92 AT ALL! The E92 was a scalpel while the 1M is a sledge hammer. The E92 just wasn't FUN! I now have perfection.
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I know others will disagree but the E92 engine is "too" perfect that it is boring and too linear. It ain't fun. My reference point is my 3rd car, a 1967 Ferrari 330 GT. the E92 doesn't sound anywhere near as good and I think the 1M sounds as good as the E92. Throttle response is about equal as far as I can tell ( neither as good as a Ferrari). Again I don't miss the E92 at all but I LOVE the 1M
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Throttle response is the same. A whole different level better. That's about it though. Ask yourself if these two are indispensable for you and you will have yourself answered.
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10-07-2012, 02:09 PM | #11 |
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By the time I got up to speed and started to have any real fun in an E92 M3 I had to start to slow down. Car is great but you need to get the revs up and the V8 comes to life. Lack of low end torque is something I did not fully grasp/know I wanted so badly until I took delivery of my car and realized how much fun you can have with a properly set up turbo car.
1M is fun from 0 all the way up. If its any consolation have someone sit in the passenger seat of a 1M and and M3 and see which car excites/scares them more under acceleration |
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10-07-2012, 04:09 PM | #12 |
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The M3 has plenty of torque - you just have to be in the right gear , while the 1M does not need to be in the right gear for good acceleration.
The short wheel base of the 1M allows for quicker rotation, while the longer wheel base and aero of the M3 allows for increased straight line and lateral stability. Driver skill makes more of a performance difference than the difference between the 1M and M3, so pick what you want and love most, and that will be the right car for you. |
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On the other hand starting up the 1M is an event! The 1M at start-up will crush the M3! Of course you only get it for 30 seconds, but I love starting it every single morning. Starting up the 1M reminds me of the recent fireworks mistake here in San Diego where they accidentally released 20 minutes of fireworks in one minute. I only live 10 minutes from work and go on surface streets. The 1M is glorious to start up every morning and just driving down 40MPH streets is a joy. Just feeling the kick in the butt at every light just rolling out of it without breaking any laws or pissing anyone off. Now if I lived in Germany and would have to take an empty autobahn to work and had a 30 minute drive the M3 would be better but for me, the 1M is way more fun every single morning. So while the M3 has a better sound when fully warmed up and in high revs for us here in the US, the 1M is way more satisfying for me. Yes, I have eaten high class steak from cows that were hand-fed caviar by Tibetan monks and yes it was very good, but I love my Saturday night USDA prime sirloin just as much. And I don't care if the great taste comes from adding a little A1 Steak Sauce. I hope this makes sense to all of you. |
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nachob, Makes perfect sense to me as well. I wish I could have been there for the fireworks mishap.
Driving the 1M gives me perma smile every time I drive it.
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And that is precisely why cold start is overrated. That's great if 30 seconds can satisfy you for the entire day. Unfortunately for those of us who track our cars, the 1M is muted in the upper rpm range where you really hear it. Hope the Dinan cure this for me.
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E90 M3 2009 is the bone I gave myself after an instructor rolled us in my 2007 GT3 (humans OK, car totalled) and never really liked it (the 997 was fantastic on track until going off backwards at 100mph) but totally impractical on the street. Have to rev the crap out of the M3 to make it come alive so felt kind of like and idiot trying to enjoy on street.
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So did the OP end up getting the 1M? I can only assume the one he was looking at is the one in Phoenix at a dealership with ~25k miles on it. They are asking $49k for it.
I happen to be one of the members that had an e92 M3 and now have a 1M. I sold the M3, bought a certified 997 turbo, kept that for about a year, and decided on the 1M. I actually prefer the 1M over both the M3 and the turbo. They all have their pros and cons without a doubt. The biggest pro of the M3, like others have stated, is the sound of the V8 (I had mine mated to Fabspeed high flow cats, midpipe, and Dinan rear section). Hands down the best sounding car I have ever owned and sounded as good as anything out there period imho. I liked the EDC as well. Main drawback was the car is on the larger side and does not have the sharper handling of say a 997 or the 1M. The 997 turbo was an absolute blast, but the car's limits were so high and its acceleration so brutal (which I loved) that around town I could only enjoy the car for about 3-5 seconds at a time. Beautiful car (love widebody Porsches), super fast, not very practical, but I was always worried about getting a scratch or dent in it lol. The 1M to me is special as I love the aggressive look, love that it is a pretty rare car (not happy that they produced a lot more worldwide than originally planned), and love the feel of it. It definitely feels more willing and sporty than the M3, more intimate. I basically feel the 1M is more similar to the 997 turbo than the M3: short wheelbase, twin turbo motor, similar in size, etc. Sure it's limits and acceleration are not nearly as high and brutal as the 997 turbo, but this makes it more fun around town as I can enjoy it more without having to shut it down as fast. Hope that makes sense.
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Also, shameless plug, check out our Weekend In Wales trip for a nice view of a load of 1Ms and my M3 hooning round. http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=749034 Last edited by mlhj83; 10-08-2012 at 04:19 PM.. |
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