[zimzimma]

OK I dont see any options for M package at bmw.com/ca...

Can someone please direct me towards a COMPLETE list of all the extras included in the M package.

Thank you

[BMW0]

Yea! Is it just looks or is there more to the M Package, like engine mod or suspension improvements... anything?

[zimzimma]

Anybody???

ok heres a pic to get some more attention....

[maq]

Originally Posted by zimzimma

Anybody???

ok heres a pic to get some more attention....

You know that pic might attract unnecessary attention... This thread might turn into a Nazca discussion.

Anyway, The M package is not available in North America yet.

Here's a quote from BMW Press Release:

"The M Sports Package for even more outstanding behaviour.

The optional M Sports Package for the 3 Series Saloon and Touring com*prises features such as BMW’s sports suspension, the Aerodynamic Pack*age (front and rear air dam and side-sills) with foglamps, as well as exclu*sive light-alloy wheels (17 or 18 inches) with different-sized tyres front and rear. The package is then rounded off by sports seats, the M leather steering wheel, special aluminium decorative trim, the M footrest, and M door entry trim."

[Broken1]

this is what is in the M sports pack in South Africa - it should be the same around the world (well Europe anyways...)

[Dante]

Here's a list of what comes with the M-sport package:
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M Aerodynamics package
Sport suspension(M-sport on e90, regular sport on e91)
17" M light allow Double spoke wheels styling 194M: front 8J x 17 225/45 R17 / rear: 8.5J x 17 255/40 R17 or
18" M light allow Double spoke wheels styling 193M: front 8J x 18 225/40 R18 / rear: 8.5J x 18 255/35 R18
High gloss shadow line exterior finishers
Sports seats in new "Blue Shadow" cloth/Alcantara combination
M Sport leather steering wheel with perforated aero leather
M Sport short shift gear lever with perforated aero leather
Handbrake lever with perforated aero leather
Brushed Aluminuim interior trim
M door sill finishers with M badge
Individual anthracite headlining

[zimzimma]

Originally Posted by Broken1

this is what is in the M sports pack in South Africa - it should be the same around the world (well Europe anyways...)

ok let me be a bit more specific......

Does the actual structure of the steering wheel differ from the "sport" version. I know the trim and badge are different but is it the same diametre and thickness?

Also are the seats the same as the ones in the sport package?

And the"short shifter"... does this mean the shifter is just cut lower or are the throws actually shorter?

Oh yeah and how much lower is the M suspension from the "sport" one?



Thanks

[rebelfocus]

In Ireland this package includes the following above SE spec (may differ for Canada)...

- Sports Seats with Blue Shadow cloth / alcantara upholstery in anthracite
- M Sports Steering Wheel
- 17-inch M Double Spoke Alloy Wheel style 68M
- Black Aluminium Cube Interior Trim
- Shortened gearshift
- M Aerodynamic bodystyling
- Roof lining in Anthracite
- Door sills with M Badge
- High-gloss Shadow Line (window side trim)
- M Sports suspension

[tbensous]

Originally Posted by zimzimma

ok let me be a bit more specific......

Does the actual structure of the steering wheel differ from the "sport" version. I know the trim and badge are different but is it the same diametre and thickness?

Also are the seats the same as the ones in the sport package?

And the"short shifter"... does this mean the shifter is just cut lower or are the throws actually shorter?

Oh yeah and how much lower is the M suspension from the "sport" one?

Thanks

Yes steering wheel is different. Same diameter, but much thicker, with perforated leather. No compararison in terms of feel with the regular sport steering wheel. really a MUST !

Seats are the same as sport package, altough you get mixed clothe/alcantara

Shifter is just shorter (leather with M badge on it)

M suspension is the same as sport suspension.

[zimzimma]

Originally Posted by tbensous

Yes steering wheel is different. Same diameter, but much thicker, with perforated leather. No compararison in terms of feel with the regular sport steering wheel. really a MUST !

Seats are the same as sport package, altough you get mixed clothe/alcantara

Shifter is just shorter (leather with M badge on it)

M suspension is the same as sport suspension.

Thanks tbensous

That sucks about the shifter, suspension and seats though.

Seems like it would be worth it to just get a sport 330 and add the Msteering wheel (if its that much better), since I'm not that big a fan of the Mbody and wheels.

Package doesnt really seem to offer that much M factor at all?!?

No handling or power upgrades when compared to sport package?

[tbensous]

No upgrade on power at least for Europe.

The ZHP package was available in the US only and was equivalent to the European M package with the following addition:

- few more BHP
- Higher rev limit
- Alcanthara Steering wheel
- Red needles

Maybe they will do the same for the US market again... But with the new engines coming (3.5L L6 or 3.0L Turbo), it is less likely to happen I think... These engines will be available in Europe without the M Package, however, for the US market these engines might come standard with M Package and become the new equivalent for ZHP on E90...

Just my thoughts...

[DerekS]

Originally Posted by zimzimma

Thanks tbensous

That sucks about the shifter, suspension and seats though.

Seems like it would be worth it to just get a sport 330 and add the Msteering wheel (if its that much better), since I'm not that big a fan of the Mbody and wheels.
Package doesnt really seem to offer that much M factor at all?!?

No handling or power upgrades when compared to sport package?

Zimzimma,
I have the M sport steering wheel; it feels much nicer than the regular sport pkg. wheel, slightly thicker with perforated leather. I also have the style 193/18" M sport alloys; they are stunning and will transform the look of the car when I install them in the spring. My dealer took in trade the 162s which came with sport pkg.You will find lots of photos of the M sport wheels on this site.

[Dante]

Originally Posted by tbensous

M suspension is the same as sport suspension.

Sorry, but this is not correct.
Sport suspension is developed by BMW, whereas the M-suspension is a different product from the affiliate M GmbH. It has a different setup, also deviant parts.

So its definitely worth shopping

[Dante]

Hey derekS,

can you please post some pics of your car with the 193 rims on? Would like to know how they look without the rest of the m-package!

[Milehigh E90]

Does anybody know the BMW model or order numbers for the M Sport Shifter and steering wheel?

[DerekS]

Originally Posted by Dante

Hey derekS,

can you please post some pics of your car with the 193 rims on? Would like to know how they look without the rest of the m-package!

Sorry, I won't be installing the 193 rims until we are past the winter snow and salt. But, if you take a look at the M sport posts, you'll get a very good idea of how good these rims look on the car. After all, the side profile with the M sport front and rear aprons is very similar to the non-M profile.
Here are the part #s : 36-11-7-836-333 front
36-11-7-836-334 rear

By the way, my dealer gave me $1200 credit for the style 162 alloys. I installed the original Bridgestone RE050A tires on the 193 rims, since there is no other RFT at the moment. Hopefully, Michelin PS2 will be available in the New Year.
If you are interested in swapping your red flashing tail lights for the Euro yellow flashing ones (much safer !!), it cost me $266 to exchange.
Here are the part numbers for the Euro tail lights :
63-21-6-937-457 L rear
63-21-6-937-458 R rear
Install time is approx. 10 minutes.

[DerekS]

Originally Posted by Dante

Hey derekS,

can you please post some pics of your car with the 193 rims on? Would like to know how they look without the rest of the m-package!

Dante,
Sorry, but in my previous post, I had you confused with Zimzimma who is located in Montreal !!
Must be my advancing senility ! You obviously don't need Euro tail lights; you already have them.
Derek

[Dante]

Originally Posted by DerekS

If you are interested in swapping your red flashing tail lights for the Euro yellow flashing ones (much safer !!), it cost me $266 to exchange.
Here are the part numbers for the Euro tail lights :
63-21-6-937-457 L rear
63-21-6-937-458 R rear
Install time is approx. 10 minutes.

Hi Derek, wouldn´t it been easier just to change the bulbs from red to orange? I think both tail lights have an orange glass?

[DerekS]

Originally Posted by Dante

Hi Derek, wouldn´t it been easier just to change the bulbs from red to orange? I think both tail lights have an orange glass?

Dante,
Both Euro and NA tail lights use the same clear coloured bulbs and bulb cluster. The only difference ( the critical one) is the Euro lens has a yellow interior, whereas the NA one is red. That's why all the North American E90 tail lights flash red instead of the proper yellow like every other BMW in the rest of the world. IMO, BMW NA made a very retrograde decision to go with red flashing tail lights. No other previous or existing BMW imported into NA has had such tail lights.

[Dante]

Originally Posted by DerekS

Dante,
Both Euro and NA tail lights use the same clear coloured bulbs and bulb cluster. The only difference ( the critical one) is the Euro lens has a yellow interior, whereas the NA one is red. That's why all the North American E90 tail lights flash red instead of the proper yellow like every other BMW in the rest of the world. IMO, BMW NA made a very retrograde decision to go with red flashing tail lights. No other previous or existing BMW imported into NA has had such tail lights.

Thanks for clearing that up!

Why did BMW do such a stupid thing? Same look on the outside but diffferent inside, means extra costs in production

I would prefer clear indicators, like on all other series.