Tires rubbing, need to roll the fenders.

e90pilot · 08-13-2013, 06:58 PM

I've got 9.5" x 19" ET40 with 265/30R19 tires on all 4 corners of my car. The fronts needed a 10mm spacer to clear the strut. I expected the wheels to rub on the outside front but I don't understand something. It's touching the front bumper and the mounting bracket that connects the bumper to the fender. I was thinking of rolling the fenders but I'm not sure that will work. I was looking at the marks on the liner from where the tire touches and it's rubbing well I side the fender. I know for a fact Dinan uses the same tire on a 9.0" front wheel "with minor fender trimming. While that might clear the fender it won't clear the inside of the fender or the bumper.

I'm on Dinan suspension which is lowered and has non-adjustable camber plates. I also have almost no more room strut side. I'm not sure what exactly to do. I don't want to bend or hack away at the fenders without really knowing what I need to do. Others here appear to have gotten similar wheel-tire combo's to work.

Mavus · 08-13-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by e90pilot

I've got 9.5" x 19" ET49 with 265/30R19 tires on all 4 corners of my car. The fronts needed a 10mm spacer to clear the strut. I expected the wheels to rub on the outside front but I don't understand something. It's touching the front bumper and the mounting bracket that connects the bumper to the fender. I was thinking of rolling the fenders but I'm not sure that will work. I was looking at the marks on the liner from where the tire touches and it's rubbing well I side the fender. I know for a fact Dinan uses the same tire on a 9.0" front wheel "with minor fender trimming. While that might clear the fender it won't clear the inside of the fender or the bumper.

I'm on Dinan suspension which is lowered and has non-adjustable camber plates. I also have almost no more room strut side. I'm not sure what exactly to do. I don't want to bend or hack away at the fenders without really knowing what I need to do. Others here appear to have gotten similar wheel-tire combo's to work.

In order to fit the front wheel you need et 30 for 9.5 rim and camber/caster plates to run -2.5 or greater camber. I know guys that fit 275 in front. I have 255 on 9.5 et30 and-2.7 camber.

e90pilot · 08-13-2013, 09:38 PM

I've got the 10mm spacer so effectively I have ET30. I'm also running -2.4 deg camber. It's pre-lci if that makes a difference. Could toe be a problem? I'm running 0 toe. I know many run toe in.

bmw325i · 08-13-2013, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by e90pilot

I've got the 10mm spacer so effectively I have ET30. I'm also running -2.4 deg camber. It's pre-lci if that makes a difference. Could toe be a problem? I'm running 0 toe. I know many run toe in.

Are you sure you started out with et49 a 10 mm spacer would put you at et39 and I don't think you'd clear the strut.

If your at et30 you'd still have a small amount of room on the strut side for a smaller spacer.

e90pilot · 08-13-2013, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bmw325i

Are you sure you started out with et49 a 10 mm spacer would put you at et39 and I don't think you'd clear the strut.

If your at et30 you'd still have a small amount of room on the strut side for a smaller spacer.

Oops typo. The wheel is ET40.

robc1976 · 08-13-2013, 10:58 PM

If rubbing on the bracket you will need to modify it like this.

robc1976 · 08-14-2013, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by e90pilot

Oops typo. The wheel is ET40.

Are you sure? I have a ET of 42 and had 285 without a roll, I now have a 295 with a 10MM spacers. That is a ET of 32 but I do have shaved fenders lol.

e90pilot · 08-14-2013, 08:42 AM

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Are you sure? I have a ET of 42 and had 285 without a roll, I now have a 295 with a 10MM spacers. That is a ET of 32 but I do have shaved fenders lol.

295?! That's Corvette territory. You must peel your face off when you take turns lol. I'm sure the wheel is ET40 and it didn't fit at all without a spacer. Not even close. With a 5mm spacer the tire sidewall touches and I can't turn the wheel on the hub with the bolts hand tightened. I almost want to remove the spring and just push the wheel to the bump stop and see where it's touching.

e90pilot · 08-14-2013, 08:52 AM

Here's where mine is rubbing: several inches forward and back of that panel gap as well as at least an inch inward.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=875820

robc1976 · 08-14-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by e90pilot

295?! That's Corvette territory. You must peel your face off when you take turns lol. I'm sure the wheel is ET40 and it didn't fit at all without a spacer. Not even close. With a 5mm spacer the tire sidewall touches and I can't turn the wheel on the hub with the bolts hand tightened. I almost want to remove the spring and just push the wheel to the bump stop and see where it's touching.

no rubbing at all...I have 295 rear and 245 front

bmw325i · 08-14-2013, 12:06 PM

You could most likely do 7mm spacers with hub extenders instead of the 10mm. I know 9.5 et33 is a very common size to run up front but most people use a 235 tire. Not sure how it would work with a 265.

Edit-forgot you changed your suspension. How much room if any do you have between the wheel and the strut?

e90pilot · 08-14-2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bmw325i

You could most likely do 7mm spacers with hub extenders instead of the 10mm. I know 9.5 et33 is a very common size to run up front but most people use a 235 tire. Not sure how it would work with a 265.

Edit-forgot you changed your suspension. How much room if any do you have between the wheel and the strut?

1-2mm if that.

e90pilot · 08-15-2013, 12:28 AM

Just to clarify something: I'm only having issues with the front.

bmw325i · 08-15-2013, 02:21 PM

I think the only options are more negative camber, shave the area where its rubbing, or use a narrower tire.

Camber plates might be your best option.

e90pilot · 08-15-2013, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bmw325i

I think the only options are more negative camber, shave the area where its rubbing, or use a narrower tire.

Camber plates might be your best option.

I was thinking about getting adjustable camer plates but there is one issue. The current camber plate I have is installed between the top of the shock and shock tower which raises the ride hight of the car by the thickness of the plate. Installing and adjustable one would lower the car giving me less clearance up top.

bmw325i · 08-15-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by e90pilot

I was thinking about getting adjustable camer plates but there is one issue. The current camber plate I have is installed between the top of the shock and shock tower which raises the ride hight of the car by the thickness of the plate. Installing and adjustable one would lower the car giving me less clearance up top.

I dont think the lower ride height would be much of a problem with the extra camber.

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e90pilot Freight Dawg 104 Rep 2,103 Posts Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oakland, CA iTrader: (3)	Tires rubbing, need to roll the fenders. I've got 9.5" x 19" ET40 with 265/30R19 tires on all 4 corners of my car. The fronts needed a 10mm spacer to clear the strut. I expected the wheels to rub on the outside front but I don't understand something. It's touching the front bumper and the mounting bracket that connects the bumper to the fender. I was thinking of rolling the fenders but I'm not sure that will work. I was looking at the marks on the liner from where the tire touches and it's rubbing well I side the fender. I know for a fact Dinan uses the same tire on a 9.0" front wheel "with minor fender trimming. While that might clear the fender it won't clear the inside of the fender or the bumper. I'm on Dinan suspension which is lowered and has non-adjustable camber plates. I also have almost no more room strut side. I'm not sure what exactly to do. I don't want to bend or hack away at the fenders without really knowing what I need to do. Others here appear to have gotten similar wheel-tire combo's to work. __________________ --Marcelo '06 Arctic Metallic 325i \| Sport Package \| 6MT \| Dinan Stage III suspension \| Dinan exhaust \| 330i manifold swap! Click here! \| Active Autowerke tune \| 135i Brake Calipers \| Deiselboost caliper brackets \| E46 M3 front rotors Last edited by e90pilot; 08-14-2013 at 08:43 AM..
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e90pilot Freight Dawg 104 Rep 2,103 Posts Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oakland, CA iTrader: (3)	I've got the 10mm spacer so effectively I have ET30. I'm also running -2.4 deg camber. It's pre-lci if that makes a difference. Could toe be a problem? I'm running 0 toe. I know many run toe in. __________________ --Marcelo '06 Arctic Metallic 325i \| Sport Package \| 6MT \| Dinan Stage III suspension \| Dinan exhaust \| 330i manifold swap! Click here! \| Active Autowerke tune \| 135i Brake Calipers \| Deiselboost caliper brackets \| E46 M3 front rotors
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e90pilot Freight Dawg 104 Rep 2,103 Posts Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oakland, CA iTrader: (3)	Here's where mine is rubbing: several inches forward and back of that panel gap as well as at least an inch inward. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=875820 __________________ --Marcelo '06 Arctic Metallic 325i \| Sport Package \| 6MT \| Dinan Stage III suspension \| Dinan exhaust \| 330i manifold swap! Click here! \| Active Autowerke tune \| 135i Brake Calipers \| Deiselboost caliper brackets \| E46 M3 front rotors
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bmw325i Major General 223 Rep 5,120 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 325i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: United States iTrader: (8)	You could most likely do 7mm spacers with hub extenders instead of the 10mm. I know 9.5 et33 is a very common size to run up front but most people use a 235 tire. Not sure how it would work with a 265. Edit-forgot you changed your suspension. How much room if any do you have between the wheel and the strut?
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e90pilot Freight Dawg 104 Rep 2,103 Posts Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oakland, CA iTrader: (3)	Just to clarify something: I'm only having issues with the front. __________________ --Marcelo '06 Arctic Metallic 325i \| Sport Package \| 6MT \| Dinan Stage III suspension \| Dinan exhaust \| 330i manifold swap! Click here! \| Active Autowerke tune \| 135i Brake Calipers \| Deiselboost caliper brackets \| E46 M3 front rotors
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bmw325i Major General 223 Rep 5,120 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 325i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: United States iTrader: (8)	I think the only options are more negative camber, shave the area where its rubbing, or use a narrower tire. Camber plates might be your best option.
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