[momo3605]

Aside from springs, is there anything else we can do? Shocks?

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by momo3605

Aside from springs, is there anything else we can do? Shocks?

The shocks/struts are what are adaptive, swapping them out would delete the DHP. Dinan is working on a software upgrade that works with the BMW DHP.

[momo3605]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

The shocks/struts are what are adaptive, swapping them out would delete the DHP. Dinan is working on a software upgrade that works with the BMW DHP.

Yea, i know, i was wondering if there was anything by other 3rd party vendors that had suspension mods for the F30 besides springs. Guess not

[artieg30]

Pretty limited from what I've seen online.. like you said springs are the only thing that are upgradable at this point. If you have DHP/ M sport adaptive with X-drive you're even further out of luck

[sonicsonic]

Ordered kw Ddc pNp for 335xi with dhp. Hope it would be nice! The installation is very simple and this is possible because the car has dhp in stock.

[momo3605]

Originally Posted by sonicsonic

Ordered kw Ddc pNp for 335xi with dhp. Hope it would be nice! The installation is very simple and this is possible because the car has dhp in stock.

So this removes all of the DHP components and has it's own dampener control that plugs in to the stock controls on the dash?

But seems like I'll wait till Dinan makes their equipment

[sonicsonic]

Originally Posted by momo3605

So this removes all of the DHP components and has it's own dampener control that plugs in to the stock controls on the dash?

But seems like I'll wait till Dinan makes their equipment

This is an ugpgade for stock dhp, the video shows us:
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=IFApwxNauxw it was available only for vag with standart electronic suspension, but now for BMW too

[MrBeranek]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

The shocks/struts are what are adaptive, swapping them out would delete the DHP. Dinan is working on a software upgrade that works with the BMW DHP.

What is "DHP"?

[Bizall]

Dynamic Handling Package...

[MrBeranek]

Originally Posted by Bizall

Dynamic Handling Package...

Does it include the optional adaptive suspension?

[Bizall]

Originally Posted by MrBeranek

Does it include the optional adaptive suspension?

Yes, as well as the variable sport steering(VSS).

[MrBeranek]

Originally Posted by Bizall

Yes, as well as the variable sport steering(VSS).

Well, then if you change the original suspension with the optional adaptive dampers for the KW DDC type (for example) as SonicSonic above mentions, you lose the "adaptive" feature of the adaptive suspension, because the KW DDC is not adaptive in the meaning the OEM optional adaptive suspension is (i.e. that it adds the Comfort+ mode and it regulates at all times the level of the car through all dampers).

As far as I was informed, the OEM optional adaptive suspension can do that, but the KW DDC coilovers can´t, so if one wants to buy any other coilovers (like from KW), it´s waste of money to order the adaptive suspension from the factory (once you change the dampers, the "adaptivness" is gone).

[sonicsonic]

Originally Posted by MrBeranek

Well, then if you change the original suspension with the optional adaptive dampers for the KW DDC type (for example) as SonicSonic above mentions, you lose the "adaptive" feature of the adaptive suspension, because the KW DDC is not adaptive in the meaning the OEM optional adaptive suspension is (i.e. that it adds the Comfort+ mode and it regulates at all times the level of the car through all dampers).

As far as I was informed, the OEM optional adaptive suspension can do that, but the KW DDC coilovers can´t, so if one wants to buy any other coilovers (like from KW), it´s waste of money to order the adaptive suspension from the factory (once you change the dampers, the "adaptivness" is gone).

You are right! But for me the first reason to order kw ddc was plug&play version for standart adaptive suspension. So the installation is very simple, like full bolt on. The ecu version of ddc is not so easy in installation. P.s.: F10 owners can't order kw ddc pNp only hard ecu installation. F10 has another adaptive suspension. F30 more tunedable

[MrBeranek]

Originally Posted by sonicsonic

You are right! But for me the first reason to order kw ddc was plug&play version for standart adaptive suspension. So the installation is very simple, like full bolt on. The ecu version of ddc is not so easy in installation. P.s.: F10 owners can't order kw ddc pNp only hard ecu installation. F10 has another adaptive suspension. F30 more tunedable

Yeah, I was just referring to you saying that you ordered the KW DDC PnP set with "dhp", but the KW DDC PnP doesn´t have the "dhp" as the optional OEM adaptive suspension has, so I was a bit confused what you meant with "dhp" in connection to the KW DDC PnP set.

Anyway, I´m in the market waiting for the 335xd and I also plan to change the original dampers for KW DDC PnP set, since the original suspension for the xDrive models is rubbish.

If you don´t mind, please let me know, once you install the KW suspension, how satisfied you are. And have you got the 19" wheels with RFT tires? If you would post any pics after the installation, it would be great as well (I´m also interested, how low looks the car with standard / highest setting of this KW suspension - don´t want to be too low for an xDrive). Thanks

[sonicsonic]

Originally Posted by MrBeranek

Yeah, I was just referring to you saying that you ordered the KW DDC PnP set with "dhp", but the KW DDC PnP doesn´t have the "dhp" as the optional OEM adaptive suspension has, so I was a bit confused what you meant with "dhp" in connection to the KW DDC PnP set.

Anyway, I´m in the market waiting for the 335xd and I also plan to change the original dampers for KW DDC PnP set, since the original suspension for the xDrive models is rubbish.

If you don´t mind, please let me know, once you install the KW suspension, how satisfied you are. And have you got the 19" wheels with RFT tires? If you would post any pics after the installation, it would be great as well (I´m also interested, how low looks the car with standard / highest setting of this KW suspension - don´t want to be too low for an xDrive). Thanks

my car is on order. I hope it will arrive in 2-2,5 months. The tyres are 18 runflat. The first modes will be kw install with non runflat tyres advan neova ad08r. In a few days after intstallation I'll post some pics and information.