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      10-30-2013, 06:07 PM   #1
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My car is asking for service?

Isn't the default change oil interval is 15000 miles? How come my car is asking for one in 600 miles? No engine mod BTW.
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Don't argue with it, just bring it in.
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Don't argue with it, just bring it in.
lol agreed.
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      10-30-2013, 07:41 PM   #4
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sometimes the cars computer gets screwed up and needs to be reset and the warning goes away. That has happened to me a couple times. But.. lol I did bring it in just to be safe and both times they said it was the computers fault.
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sometimes the cars computer gets screwed up and needs to be reset and the warning goes away. That has happened to me a couple times. But.. lol I did bring it in just to be safe and both times they said it was the computers fault.
If you are under warranty,take it in. If not reset the computer.
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If you are under warranty,take it in. If not reset the computer.
sadly I am not under warranty anymore, but yeah I have taken it down to my local euro shop
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sadly I am not under warranty anymore, but yeah I have taken it down to my local euro shop
So did they fix it?
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So did they fix it?
yes, did a reset and all was well
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yes, did a reset and all was well
Glad to hear!
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Glad to hear!
lol this is really random but I cannot hold my peace any longer… your profile pic scares the shit out of me.. not sure why lol
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lol this is really random but I cannot hold my peace any longer… your profile pic scares the shit out of me.. not sure why lol
LOL!!!! It's Mr.Bean and Avatar in one!
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This happened to me aswell 3 months/1500k miles after I bought mines. My SA said it was a routine check up. Took it in and didn't argue.
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Are you sure its asking for oil?

Are you sure its asking for oil?
And not one of the other services like brake fluid
or brakes, etc,etc
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lol this is really random but I cannot hold my peace any longer… your profile pic scares the shit out of me.. not sure why lol
lmao I didn't notice his avatar until you pointed it out, now I can't stop staring and laughing.
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Are you sure its asking for oil?
And not one of the other services like brake fluid
or brakes, etc,etc
++

Condition-based service is certainly convenient for the service shops and BMWUSA, but not for us poor owners that now have to bring it in multiple times at random intervals to get done everything that was accomplished in one Inspection II in previous years.
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lmao I didn't notice his avatar until you pointed it out, now I can't stop staring and laughing.
Am glad to be amusing!
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Are you sure its asking for oil?
And not one of the other services like brake fluid
or brakes, etc,etc
Positive that it's oil. I checked it in I-drive under vehicle status and it says that it needs oil change in 600 miles. I only have 11400 miles so far.
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Are you sure its asking for oil?
And not one of the other services like brake fluid
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Positive that it's oil. I checked it in I-drive under vehicle status and it says that it needs oil change in 600 miles. I only have 11400 miles so far.
11400 miles, yes change the oil!
Many of us on here change our oil in between the freebies from the dealer. Every 12-15k miles is good for bmw bottom line, not for you car.
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11400 miles, yes change the oil!
Many of us on here change our oil in between the freebies from the dealer. Every 12-15k miles is good for bmw bottom line, not for you car.
I did have a change oil last 8k. Maybe my friend tech forgot to reset it. I was just wondering why too early because I thought that it will ask for it near the 15k mark.
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A default 15,000 mile OCI is a misnomer. The system is called Condition-Based Service (CBS) so the need to change the oil is dependent upon many operation variables that determine the condition of the oil. So, there is no set mileage oil change interval; around 15,000 miles is generally a range of where most cars fall when the oil needs changing. My car with an N52 and the driving conditions I drive under consistently called for oil change that averages around 17,500 miles. Recommends changing the oil every 12 months regardless of mileage, which you can consider a default OCI.

If you had an oil change between resets of the CBS and the service indicator was not reset by the tech, the car will not know the difference and continue to calculate the interval based on the inputs to algorithm uses to determine the OCI.

The CBS system always provides an estimated mileage left to the next required oil service, so you can always check if it was or was not reset after an oil change.
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I always like to joke with my friends that the car telling me when it needs service and for what is part of what makes it so German... and that it tells me it needs service in a stern German accent.

"Achtung! Take me to ein BMW service center, bitte. SCHNELL!"

Whether or not a stern German would say please is up for debate, but I like to believe my car would.
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A default 15,000 mile OCI is a misnomer. The system is called Condition-Based Service (CBS) so the need to change the oil is dependent upon many operation variables that determine the condition of the oil. So, there is no set mileage oil change interval; around 15,000 miles is generally a range of where most cars fall when the oil needs changing. My car with an N52 and the driving conditions I drive under consistently called for oil change that averages around 17,500 miles. Recommends changing the oil every 12 months regardless of mileage, which you can consider a default OCI.

If you had an oil change between resets of the CBS and the service indicator was not reset by the tech, the car will not know the difference and continue to calculate the interval based on the inputs to algorithm uses to determine the OCI.

The CBS system always provides an estimated mileage left to the next required oil service, so you can always check if it was or was not reset after an oil change.
Just talked to my tech, he told me that same thing. He also told me that it is also dependent on fuel consumed and driving habits. Thanks for the info.
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