M Performance Suspension...in Eco Pro...Hello

OC40 · 11-05-2013, 10:36 AM

I purchased my car in February and have pushed the Eco Pro button a handful of times. Matter of fact, I posted a thread about why it was not for me. I recently upgraded to the M Performance Suspension ("MPS") and discussed my observations within the "35,656" page MPS thread. What I have not discussed is my opinion on MPS in Eco Pro.

Flash forward to last night. My wife and I drove up to LA for an event, which is approximately 45 miles each way. We absolutely love the MPS and we never feel that it is too harsh. That being said, I had been up for 18 hours and hit a stretch on the 110 that was horrible. The ride was fine, but given my exhaustion, I wanted something a little more "cushy". I pushed the Eco Pro button for the first time since February/March...

It became such a different car. My wife, not realizing what I did, made a comment about the road becoming considerably smoother within 30 seconds of being in Eco Pro (but it was not the road). It felt like Comfort Mode without the MPS, but without the body roll. We were quite surprised and talked about for approximately 10 straight miles.

This may not be new to those with MPS, but it certainly is to me.

Edit: I am still going to drive in Comfort/Sport+ 99.9% of the time.

reprod · 11-05-2013, 01:58 PM

Do you have the M Performance springs with the DHP adjustable dampers? If not, are the M Performance suspension dampers adjustable?

Sedan_Clan · 11-05-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by reprod

Do you have the M Performance springs with the DHP adjustable dampers? If not, are the M Performance suspension dampers adjustable?

That was going to be my question, because without DHP the modes don't change suspension settings, only steering feel and it adjusts throttle sensitivity.

OC40 · 11-05-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Quote:

Originally Posted by reprod

Do you have the M Performance springs with the DHP adjustable dampers? If not, are the M Performance suspension dampers adjustable?

That was going to be my question, because without DHP the modes don't change suspension settings, only steering feel and it adjusts throttle sensitivity.

No but it is noticeable. My wife noticed it right off the bat.

bmrm396 · 11-05-2013, 03:17 PM

right - even if you have DHP, the m performance suspension negates the ability to change "chassis" modes. it is a fixed system, theres no more "soft vs hard" if you install it.

Sedan_Clan · 11-05-2013, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bmrm396

right - even if you have DHP, the m performance suspension negates the ability to change "chassis" modes. it is a fixed system, theres no more "soft vs hard" if you install it.

^^This!

OC40 · 11-05-2013, 03:34 PM

Based on the responses....

I

must

be

CRAY!

P.S. I never had DHP.

richb811 · 11-05-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OC40

Edit: I am still going to drive in Comfort/Sport+ 99.9% of the time.

Phew! Glad to hear its only going to be 0.1% of your drives. Otherwise I was going to take your F30 away and give you a 92 Cadillac Deville!

bmrm396 · 11-05-2013, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich@GTBPerformance

Phew! Glad to hear its only going to be 0.1% of your drives. Otherwise I was going to take your F30 away and give you a 92 Cadillac Deville!

bahahaha

OC40 · 11-05-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich@GTBPerformance

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC40

Edit: I am still going to drive in Comfort/Sport+ 99.9% of the time.

Phew! Glad to hear its only going to be 0.1% of your drives. Otherwise I was going to take your F30 away and give you a 92 Cadillac Deville!

'88 Grand Marquis is where it's at. That is what my MSport felt like before the MPS.

newoldbeemer · 11-05-2013, 07:32 PM

@OC40, I had noticed the same thing and posted it on that mperf labor hours thread. I figured its in my head. But somehow I can still feel a difference between comfort mode and sport mode.

Our cars have a secret DHP

bmrm396 · 11-05-2013, 07:50 PM

its probably just transfers itself through the steering, creating that placebo effect ... car just feels looser

OC40 · 11-05-2013, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by newoldbeemer

@OC40, I had noticed the same thing and posted it on that mperf labor hours thread. I figured its in my head. But somehow I can still feel a difference between comfort mode and sport mode.

Our cars have a secret DHP

I'm glad there are three of us - you, me and my wife!

reprod · 11-06-2013, 08:55 AM

Can M-Performance springs be installed with the adaptive dampers? I feel like this would be the perfect setup.

shivaswrath · 11-06-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bmrm396

right - even if you have DHP, the m performance suspension negates the ability to change "chassis" modes. it is a fixed system, theres no more "soft vs hard" if you install it.

^^^^^^^^^

This.

It's placebo effect OP, MPS is a track oriented system, there's no way it's adjustable based off of the fuel/gear mapping done with Eco Pro.

Sedan_Clan · 11-06-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by reprod

Can M-Performance springs be installed with the adaptive dampers? I feel like this would be the perfect setup.

I don't see why not.

bmrm396 · 11-06-2013, 10:26 PM

I've had trouble tracking down the part #s and where to order. Lemme know if u find anything

OC40 · 11-07-2013, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bmrm396

I've had trouble tracking down the part #s and where to order. Lemme know if u find anything

Check with getbmwparts.com

They can assist. Great prices too

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