[blackbeast06]

Here is a great example why I do not drive my 335 in the winter in northeast Ohio. This state will ruin your car in one winter season. The roads look like they are snow covered but there is not a millimeter of snow, it is pure salt.

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salty roads by senntera, on Flickr[/IMG]

[///M3NACE]

It'll take years before you show signs of cancer from salt. Water causes rust as well that's why e36 are notorious to be rusty by the trunk lid due to water not being filtered properly out it the car.

[Frenk]

just wash your car once in a while, also frozen salt doesnt do any harm

[Mardio]

Looks cold...

[StevenY.]

Looks like a nightmare to me!

[blackbeast06]

Every is entitled to their own opinions but I am here and I live in it haha. My old 325 started rusting after 2 years and that was with me staying on top of washing it after every snow and salt assault. I just cannot bring myself to ruing an expensive car during the winter, especially because I plan on keeping this car for a long time.

and the other assailant

[carjon]

These cars are designed to live in cold weather areas and live in the winter.
It's a car - lives outside and will be fine. They have rust warranties.

[rick100]

see below

BMW Limited Warranties
Automobile Warranty Coverage
Warranty Summary Years / Kms
New Car Limited Warranty 4 years / 80,000 km
No-Charge Scheduled Maintenance 4 years / 80,000 km
Limited Emissions Control Warranty
Specific Control Devices 8 years / 130,000 km
Component Warranty 4 years /80,000 km
Emissions Performance 2 years /40,000 km
Limited Rust Perforation Warranty 12 years / Unlimited kms
{Model year 2004 and up}
Limited Rust Perforation Warranty 6 years / Unlimited kms
{Prior to model year 2004}
Roadside Assistance Service 4 years / Unlimited kms

Limited Rust Perforation Warranty

BMW Canada Inc. warrants to the first retail purchaser, and each subsequent purchaser, that this vehicle shall remain free of defects in materials or workmanship which results in rust "perforation"** of the vehicle body.

**"Perforation" means the rust or corrosion of any components of the automobile body through from the inner surface to the outer surface.

As of model year 2004, the warranty for perforation due to corrosion is for a period of 12 years/unlimited kilometres.


This warranty begins on the date of first registration, or the date the vehicle is first placed in service as a demonstrator or company vehicle, whichever occurs first.

Please contact BMW Toronto for additional information on coverage and limitations.


Nowhere does it say DO NOT drive in the winter or warranty will be voided. Plus you can always rust proof your car prior winter , Ive done with my honda civic and there was not rust on the car in the first 5 years I owned it. BMW have much better rust protection

I live in canada so I know a thing or two about snow. Ohio is my summer spot in the winter

[VendettaBMW]

Originally Posted by rick100

see below

BMW Limited Warranties
Automobile Warranty Coverage
Warranty Summary Years / Kms
New Car Limited Warranty 4 years / 80,000 km
No-Charge Scheduled Maintenance 4 years / 80,000 km
Limited Emissions Control Warranty
Specific Control Devices 8 years / 130,000 km
Component Warranty 4 years /80,000 km
Emissions Performance 2 years /40,000 km
Limited Rust Perforation Warranty 12 years / Unlimited kms
{Model year 2004 and up}
Limited Rust Perforation Warranty 6 years / Unlimited kms
{Prior to model year 2004}
Roadside Assistance Service 4 years / Unlimited kms

Limited Rust Perforation Warranty

BMW Canada Inc. warrants to the first retail purchaser, and each subsequent purchaser, that this vehicle shall remain free of defects in materials or workmanship which results in rust "perforation"** of the vehicle body.

**"Perforation" means the rust or corrosion of any components of the automobile body through from the inner surface to the outer surface.

As of model year 2004, the warranty for perforation due to corrosion is for a period of 12 years/unlimited kilometres.


This warranty begins on the date of first registration, or the date the vehicle is first placed in service as a demonstrator or company vehicle, whichever occurs first.

Please contact BMW Toronto for additional information on coverage and limitations.


Nowhere does it say DO NOT drive in the winter or warranty will be voided. Plus you can always rust proof your car prior winter , Ive done with my honda civic and there was not rust on the car in the first 5 years I owned it. BMW have much better rust protection

I live in canada so I know a thing or two about snow. Ohio is my summer spot in the winter

can u send a bmw link to this info pls

[rick100]

Originally Posted by VendettaBMW

can u send a bmw link to this info pls

http://www.bmwtoronto.ca/service/bmw-limited-warranties

BMW canada

[blackbeast06]

Originally Posted by rick100

see below

BMW Limited Warranties
Automobile Warranty Coverage
Warranty Summary Years / Kms
New Car Limited Warranty 4 years / 80,000 km
No-Charge Scheduled Maintenance 4 years / 80,000 km
Limited Emissions Control Warranty
Specific Control Devices 8 years / 130,000 km
Component Warranty 4 years /80,000 km
Emissions Performance 2 years /40,000 km
Limited Rust Perforation Warranty 12 years / Unlimited kms
{Model year 2004 and up}
Limited Rust Perforation Warranty 6 years / Unlimited kms
{Prior to model year 2004}
Roadside Assistance Service 4 years / Unlimited kms

Limited Rust Perforation Warranty

BMW Canada Inc. warrants to the first retail purchaser, and each subsequent purchaser, that this vehicle shall remain free of defects in materials or workmanship which results in rust "perforation"** of the vehicle body.

**"Perforation" means the rust or corrosion of any components of the automobile body through from the inner surface to the outer surface.

As of model year 2004, the warranty for perforation due to corrosion is for a period of 12 years/unlimited kilometres.


This warranty begins on the date of first registration, or the date the vehicle is first placed in service as a demonstrator or company vehicle, whichever occurs first.

Please contact BMW Toronto for additional information on coverage and limitations.


Nowhere does it say DO NOT drive in the winter or warranty will be voided. Plus you can always rust proof your car prior winter , Ive done with my honda civic and there was not rust on the car in the first 5 years I owned it. BMW have much better rust protection

I live in canada so I know a thing or two about snow. Ohio is my summer spot in the winter

So what happens in 13 years when the car starts to rust? I would garage if you want to keep the car for long term. But the concern is not only rust, the potholes are quite treacherous and the interior also gets salt stained as well as swirl marks in the paint from brushing. Also suspension components, rotors, nuts and bolts get all rusty.

I got a kick out of it when you said Ohio is your summer spot haha. I thought we had it bad. Not sure how much snow you get in your part of Canada but a couple of years ago NE Ohio got the most snow fall out of any place in the country, it does get quite bad around these parts.

[blackbeast06]

It is good to know about the rust warranty though, I never knew about that.

[VendettaBMW]

Originally Posted by rick100

http://www.bmwtoronto.ca/service/bmw-limited-warranties

BMW canada

thx
merry xmas

[liang]

That rust warranty thing is BS. It only applies if it is rusted through entirely.

[rick100]

Originally Posted by blackbeast06

So what happens in 13 years when the car starts to rust? I would garage if you want to keep the car for long term. But the concern is not only rust, the potholes are quite treacherous and the interior also gets salt stained as well as swirl marks in the paint from brushing.

I got a kick out of it when you said Ohio is your summer spot haha. I thought we had it bad. Not sure how much snow you get in your part of Canada but a couple of years ago NE Ohio got the most snow fall out of any place in the country, it does get quite bad around these parts.

you want to keep the car for longer than 13 years???. I bet in less than 10 years you change the car for a newer one.

Plus if you really want to keep the car for long time , you probably paint the car before that since it'll be pretty hard to prevent chips, scratches, paint discoloration , etc , etc ,etc in 13 years. Newer models come out and your car will probably be worth less than 7000 in 13 years, no matter how clean you keep it

You guys in Ohio got the little snow compared to us , we have a major ice storms , trees fell down everywhere. I'm glad that I park underground.

[John 070]

The salt is so destructive, but if one leases, understood, they don't care. But if you own, why not let a beater take all that salt.

[rick100]

Originally Posted by Liang

That rust warranty thing is BS. It only applies if it is rusted through entirely.

it really depends on your service rep. I only know of one friend with rust issues on his BMW ( 2007, 328 I believe) , very little rust . At the dealer he got denied in his first attempt by some older service rep which he never dealt with before. The following week the service rep he always dealt with was back from vacation and he make sure they fixed the rust spot at not cost

I had a similar experience with my Buick enclave. I also got denied by some older service rep to do a software update in the transmission. Then I call my regular service rep and he got it done under warranty ,without any problem.

As a matter of fact he replaced the transmission under warranty before it broke down ( enclaves are known to have a component that fails 90% of the time , mine was not failing but it was jerky)

I always have a good relationship with one service rep , the things they can get done under warranty are really good. If you are a dick , you are not getting anything done , or if you go to the wrong service rep good luck getting anything done too

Having said that , all my friends (except one) drive their BMWs in the winter , I have only seen one with one rust spot and he got it fixed under warranty. I think BMW have excellent rust protection , very rare to see one with rust

[Kgolf31]

OP - If you ever have a problem with rust, visit Dave Walter BMW (you probably already do since you're in Akron).

As a fellow Clevelander, we use too much salt....I drive my E82 in the winter but wash each week. It will be a track car anyways sooner or later.

My dad had a 02 325xi that I ended up driving until 2010, some small rust formed underneath the gas cap on the bodywork...fairly common place on the E46s. Regardless, it saw full winter duty

[shawntech]

Mines a winter car in Michigan, parked the suv.... murrica

[Miller335]

There's so many nooks and crannys it would get into, washing your car isn't going to cut it.

[fastaction]

Try having a Jet Black 335i in a Cleveland winter

[ken1137]

Galvanizing steel for the automotive industry is a beautiful thing but has been around awhile. You have nothing to worry about.