M3 to 335d xdrive

LEWISJOHN · 12-28-2013, 03:44 AM

I am thinking of changing my E92 M3 coupe for a 335d xdrive,I know it won't have the outright power of the M3, but I am attracted by the torque of the diesel,(I had a 330d before the M3)anybody else made the same change.

Steve C · 12-28-2013, 03:56 AM

I've just moved from an e92 M3 to a 330d xdrive.

90% of the time I'm glad I did for the cheaper running costs and the extra traction. Handling of the derv isn't up to the M3 obviously but its only an illegal speeds on fast a-roads that you notice the power difference.

Oh, and the sounds isn't quite as nice as a V8!

scooper · 12-28-2013, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve C

I've just moved from an e92 M3 to a 330d xdrive.

90% of the time I'm glad I did for the cheaper running costs and the extra traction. Handling of the derv isn't up to the M3 obviously but its only an illegal speeds on fast a-roads that you notice the power difference.

Oh, and the sounds isn't quite as nice as a V8!

Pretty much what Steve said. Handling and power delivery are much softer and in the first couple of days I questioned the move. But overall the 335d is a great car. Especially the traction! (But we won't start that debate again!)

ll71 · 12-28-2013, 11:14 AM

No, please god, not again.

lol

chetalien · 12-28-2013, 07:15 PM

To me if u want m3, dont justify why u bought it. Its worth it. If y want a diesel with m3esque performance maybe 335d is the clsest. Re 335i- i wouldnt buy it, cause its not m3 but lles power/ looks eyc, no to metion not as mucg milg as 335d.
So in my opinion either m3 if u r nt bothered re fuel costs or 335d.
Dobt bother comparing torque, etc tbh the ny rason we dont buy m3 is coz of running costs.

brommy · 12-28-2013, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chetalien

To me if u want m3, dont justify why u bought it. Its worth it. If y want a diesel with m3esque performance maybe 335d is the clsest. Re 335i- i wouldnt buy it, cause its not m3 but lles power/ looks eyc, no to metion not as mucg milg as 335d.
So in my opinion either m3 if u r nt bothered re fuel costs or 335d.
Dobt bother comparing torque, etc tbh the ny rason we dont buy m3 is coz of running costs.

Entered via idrive touchpad?

chetalien · 12-29-2013, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by brommy

Entered via idrive touchpad?

And drunk.

Apl440i or 335d? · 12-29-2013, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by LEWISJOHN

I am thinking of changing my E92 M3 coupe for a 335d xdrive,I know it won't have the outright power of the M3, but I am attracted by the torque of the diesel,(I had a 330d before the M3)anybody else made the same change.

Two VERY different cars in my eyes. Give a 335d a test drive, I recon there should be a few more about in the new year....

LEWISJOHN · 12-30-2013, 09:08 AM

Well I went and did it,just ordered an M sport 335d xdrive,spec as follows
M sort plus pack
Adaptive suspension
VSS
HUD
Heated seats
Business media pack
Reversing camera
Seat heating
Folding mirrors
Glacier silver/Coral Red with black highlights
5 year service pack.
I got a great deal and a very good price for my M3 from Green Bower in Haverfordwest west wales.

bwrlane · 12-30-2013, 09:53 AM

Ahhhh but if you get a 335d you are lumped with xdrive. Def don't do it.

DazC · 12-30-2013, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEWISJOHN

Well I went and did it,just ordered an M sport 335d xdrive,spec as follows
M sort plus pack
Adaptive suspension
VSS
HUD
Heated seats
Business media pack
Reversing camera
Seat heating
Folding mirrors
Glacier silver/Coral Red with black highlights
5 year service pack.
I got a great deal and a very good price for my M3 from Green Bower in Haverfordwest west wales.

Good stuff

Pablo68 · 12-30-2013, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bwrlane

Ahhhh but if you get a 335d you are lumped with xdrive. Def don't do it.

No more track days eh?

Apl440i or 335d? · 12-30-2013, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEWISJOHN

Well I went and did it,just ordered an M sport 335d xdrive,spec as follows
M sort plus pack
Adaptive suspension
VSS
HUD
Heated seats
Business media pack
Reversing camera
Seat heating
Folding mirrors
Glacier silver/Coral Red with black highlights
5 year service pack.
I got a great deal and a very good price for my M3 from Green Bower in Haverfordwest west wales.

Great choice

If you have to have a diesel 3 series, you may as well get the best one

Did you test drive first?

Pablo68 · 12-30-2013, 11:37 AM

To the OP: I know you mentioned the torque of the diesel but can I ask why you want to go from an M3 to a diesel? It is a very different drive, and I suspect that although the speedo will tell you it's going quick your bum dyno, ears and gut not so much.

Out of interest, you do realise the F30 335i with the N55 engine has the same torque as the E92 M3? The difference is (obviously) it's turbo vs N/A (although it doesn't drive like a turbo) and doesn't rev quite as mad as the M3 and so is only 304ish bhp out of the box. It is however nearly 300kg lighter! And it will return 35-40mpg if you drive reasonably... Did you try one?

LEWISJOHN · 12-30-2013, 12:32 PM

I had an E90 330d before the M3 and loved the power deliveryI have had the M3 for three years and feel I have got it out of my system now,I am 55 years old and am fed up with corsas and peugeots etc playing at Sebastian vettel at traffic lights so I think the 335 will be a bit more understated .

F30AM · 12-30-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chetalien

To me if u want m3, dont justify why u bought it. Its worth it. If y want a diesel with m3esque performance maybe 335d is the clsest. Re 335i- i wouldnt buy it, cause its not m3 but lles power/ looks eyc, no to metion not as mucg milg as 335d.
So in my opinion either m3 if u r nt bothered re fuel costs or 335d.
Dobt bother comparing torque, etc tbh the ny rason we dont buy m3 is coz of running costs.

In Eeeeeengliiiiiiiissssssshhhhhhh please.

Irnbrukid · 12-30-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo68

To the OP: I know you mentioned the torque of the diesel but can I ask why you want to go from an M3 to a diesel? It is a very different drive, and I suspect that although the speedo will tell you it's going quick your bum dyno, ears and gut not so much.

Out of interest, you do realise the F30 335i with the N55 engine has the same torque as the E92 M3? The difference is (obviously) it's turbo vs N/A (although it doesn't drive like a turbo) and doesn't rev quite as mad as the M3 and so is only 304ish bhp out of the box. It is however nearly 300kg lighter! And it will return 35-40mpg if you drive reasonably... Did you try one?

What's 300kg lighter? surely that must be a typo.

Pablo68 · 12-30-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Irnbrukid

What's 300kg lighter? surely that must be a typo.

E92 M3 Manual 1810 KG Kerb Weight

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-figures/bmw/3-series/m3-2007/39696/

E92 M3 DCT 1830 KG Kerb weight

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/review...m3-2007/46885/

F30 335i MSport Auto 1520 KG kerb weight

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/review...on-2012/55697/

Thats quite a difference.

scooper · 12-30-2013, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo68

E92 M3 Manual 1810 KG Kerb Weight

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-figures/bmw/3-series/m3-2007/39696/

E92 M3 DCT 1830 KG Kerb weight

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/review...m3-2007/46885/

F30 335i MSport Auto 1520 KG kerb weight

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/review...on-2012/55697/

Thats quite a difference.

Something not right with those weights.

scooper · 12-30-2013, 01:30 PM

1580kg nearer the mark?

Steve C · 12-30-2013, 01:31 PM

M3 is around 1600kg IIRC

1800kg sounds right for the convertible though

Pablo68 · 12-30-2013, 01:34 PM

Best have a word with parkers. I've never weighed one personally.

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LEWISJOHN Private 52 Rep 51 Posts Drives: 335d xdrive m sport on order Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: swansea iTrader: (0)	M3 to 335d xdrive I am thinking of changing my E92 M3 coupe for a 335d xdrive,I know it won't have the outright power of the M3, but I am attracted by the torque of the diesel,(I had a 330d before the M3)anybody else made the same change.
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chetalien Private First Class 23 Rep 194 Posts Drives: BMW 330xd Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: worcester iTrader: (0)	To me if u want m3, dont justify why u bought it. Its worth it. If y want a diesel with m3esque performance maybe 335d is the clsest. Re 335i- i wouldnt buy it, cause its not m3 but lles power/ looks eyc, no to metion not as mucg milg as 335d. So in my opinion either m3 if u r nt bothered re fuel costs or 335d. Dobt bother comparing torque, etc tbh the ny rason we dont buy m3 is coz of running costs.
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LEWISJOHN Private 52 Rep 51 Posts Drives: 335d xdrive m sport on order Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: swansea iTrader: (0)	Made the move Well I went and did it,just ordered an M sport 335d xdrive,spec as follows M sort plus pack Adaptive suspension VSS HUD Heated seats Business media pack Reversing camera Seat heating Folding mirrors Glacier silver/Coral Red with black highlights 5 year service pack. I got a great deal and a very good price for my M3 from Green Bower in Haverfordwest west wales.
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bwrlane Lieutenant 154 Rep 590 Posts Drives: 340i F31 MPPSK Join Date: May 2013 Location: Reading, UK iTrader: (0)	Ahhhh but if you get a 335d you are lumped with xdrive. Def don't do it.
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Pablo68 Left the building 185 Rep 1,608 Posts Drives: Not a diesel. Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Petrol Heaven iTrader: (0)	To the OP: I know you mentioned the torque of the diesel but can I ask why you want to go from an M3 to a diesel? It is a very different drive, and I suspect that although the speedo will tell you it's going quick your bum dyno, ears and gut not so much. Out of interest, you do realise the F30 335i with the N55 engine has the same torque as the E92 M3? The difference is (obviously) it's turbo vs N/A (although it doesn't drive like a turbo) and doesn't rev quite as mad as the M3 and so is only 304ish bhp out of the box. It is however nearly 300kg lighter! And it will return 35-40mpg if you drive reasonably... Did you try one?
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LEWISJOHN Private 52 Rep 51 Posts Drives: 335d xdrive m sport on order Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: swansea iTrader: (0)	I had an E90 330d before the M3 and loved the power deliveryI have had the M3 for three years and feel I have got it out of my system now,I am 55 years old and am fed up with corsas and peugeots etc playing at Sebastian vettel at traffic lights so I think the 335 will be a bit more understated .
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