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      03-04-2014, 11:42 AM   #1
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Gas Guzzler tax?

Since MPG ratings haven't been released, do you think we could escape Gas Guzzler Tax?

With the new engine, you don't think the combined will be > 22.5 MPG??

I want to tick another option box rather than pay for GGT.

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Since MPG ratings haven't been released, do you think we could escape Gas Guzzler Tax?

With the new engine, you don't think the combined will be > 22.5 MPG??

I want to tick another option box rather than pay for GGT.

Thoughts?
I'm pretty sure it was stated no GGT.
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      03-04-2014, 01:41 PM   #3
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The old car does 14/20, with a combined rating of 17mpg. The new car is 25% better which puts it on 21.25mpg. This is as per BMW press release (the 25% number). If this is true, it will be just under 22.5mpg.
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The old car does 14/20, with a combined rating of 17mpg. The new car is 25% better which puts it on 21.25mpg. This is as per BMW press release (the 25% number). If this is true, it will be just under 22.5mpg.
This calculation is not correct. E92 M3's epa combined mpg was 20.8 mpg for auto and 21.1 mpg for manual.

http://www.epa.gov/fueleconomy/guzzler/420b13037.pdf
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This calculation is not correct. E92 M3's epa combined mpg was 20.8 mpg for auto and 21.1 mpg for manual.

http://www.epa.gov/fueleconomy/guzzler/420b13037.pdf
If that is correct, they're expecting a 26mpg combined? That could/should mean 30mpg+ hwy, which means we could hope for upper 20's in all reality!
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Gas guzzler calc is different than regular fuel economy figures. My "08 manual is 14/20/16 on the sticker. Get the government involved and things get complicated.
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I am just hoping it is over 22.5 combined so i'll be able to tick another option box.
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I am just hoping it is over 22.5 combined so i'll be able to tick another option box.
1300 bucks is about 14/month. If 14/month makes such a different for you that your budget only allows you to add a new package only if gas guzzler tax is not paid, then I'd rethink my decision to buy this car.

The 1300 gas guzzler tax is going to be nothing like the operating expenses of this car. Insurance, tires, wheels, winter setup and so on. I hope you are factoring all of this in.
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1300 bucks is about 14/month. If 14/month makes such a different for you that your budget only allows you to add a new package only if gas guzzler tax is not paid, then I'd rethink my decision to buy this car.

The 1300 gas guzzler tax is going to be nothing like the operating expenses of this car. Insurance, tires, wheels, winter setup and so on. I hope you are factoring all of this in.
You keep saying this to people. Just because you can spend $1300 a month on a car doesn't mean you should if it's avoidable. Obviously he IS thinking about his decision and going through each possible charge.
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1300 bucks is about 14/month. If 14/month makes such a different for you that your budget only allows you to add a new package only if gas guzzler tax is not paid, then I'd rethink my decision to buy this car.

The 1300 gas guzzler tax is going to be nothing like the operating expenses of this car. Insurance, tires, wheels, winter setup and so on. I hope you are factoring all of this in.
Some people place personal or household limits on spending. For example, it makes for good discipline and contributes toward marital harmony. I'm sure he's got the funding for the purchase figured out, and would like just as much as you and the next guy for the thread to stay on topic as well.
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1300 bucks is about 14/month. If 14/month makes such a different for you that your budget only allows you to add a new package only if gas guzzler tax is not paid, then I'd rethink my decision to buy this car.

The 1300 gas guzzler tax is going to be nothing like the operating expenses of this car. Insurance, tires, wheels, winter setup and so on. I hope you are factoring all of this in.
Some people place personal or household limits on spending. For example, it makes for good discipline and contributes toward marital harmony. I'm sure he's got the funding for the purchase figured out, and would like just as much as you and the next guy for the thread to stay on topic as well.
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1300 bucks is about 14/month. If 14/month makes such a different for you that your budget only allows you to add a new package only if gas guzzler tax is not paid, then I'd rethink my decision to buy this car.

The 1300 gas guzzler tax is going to be nothing like the operating expenses of this car. Insurance, tires, wheels, winter setup and so on. I hope you are factoring all of this in.
Guys, don't be so hard on him...unless he's doing it just to be an A..Hole.
It's a fair question! You're right, it is nothing on a 66k car.
Can't get rated for insurance yet...not released yet

You're absolutely right that I shouldn't buy this vehicle, but I have put myself in a position to finally purchase one without limiting my lifestyle. It will be the same payment as my 135. I don't make what others on here make, but my gambles and conservatism have paid off over the years.

I don't live in my parents basement. I own my place, have no real debt. I just don't have any vices except cars and food. Dont really drink, don't smoke, don't do the weed.

If your concern is truly sincere...thanks. If not, this thread was just me wishing out loud for the GGT to afford me another options box b/c they MPGs weren't officially released. Also, I am really hoping for some better gas mileage since it is just a turbo six.

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Some people place personal or household limits on spending. For example, it makes for good discipline and contributes toward marital harmony. I'm sure he's got the funding for the purchase figured out, and would like just as much as you and the next guy for the thread to stay on topic as well.
Couldn't have said it better myself...
Just a personal limit. Saving that GGT gets me 19s or the HK.
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