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Short video of M5 beating the new 991 Carrera S(991)
here is the video of the M5 beating the Carrera S surprisingly by a wide margin. Like to hear your guys thoughts. But I have to admit I love to have a Carrera S for the weekend. so nice with amazing handling and pure sports car |
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Already been talked about legit 5 or 6 threads bellow this one. But maybe you did not see and I shall answer this one... Introduce either turns into this race and watch the M5 fall behind as the Porsche excels in turns, or make it a fair comparison, Turbo car vs Turbo car, but we all know the outcome of that, 911 Turbo would win.
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I really ought to rent me a 991 C2S for a week or something given all the ravings going on around here. The last time I tried it, i only drove it for 30 mins and wasn't blown away by it. Maybe it will grow on me with time. I desperately want to understand why it's so highly rated as a driver's car. There's gotta be something about it...
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The thing about the M5 that makes it so much more valuable to me is that I have a lot more use for it's acceleration than I lose in it's lack of cornering speed. The insane acceleration allows me to dominate the highway and that is something a nice road car should have. In the Porsche, it comes with a very high price. Last edited by wrsbmw; 05-21-2014 at 09:37 AM.. |
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There is no reason to argue with you since you can not even compare apples to apples. I will say this though, there is more to car than acceleration, and that is why the M5 costs 110,000 vs a 911, which costs more, because it offers so much more. Don't forget the M5 is just a tricked out 5 series with lots of surgery, sure it is fast and all, but at heart it is still a huge heavy boat. The 911 at heart is and always has been a sports car, engineered from the start as a sports car. From the C2 to the Turbo and GT3, auto sports is what they were born to do.
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My reply -
http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=984481 Which is my post on this topic a few days ago - |
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Spot on again with these two cars. The C2S in not the M5 comparison car, the Turbo is. However, it is amazing that many, including me, eventually chose and will choose to make the switch to the C2S or C4S from the M5. The overall "driving" experience far exceeds that of the M5. A few test drives simply won't reveal that. Real seat time surely will. I am a perfect example in that it took two full months for me to finally fall for the car after leaving the Porsche dealer on several occasions with a underwhelmed feeling. Hey, even today,having my TTS cab,there are still moments where I miss the involvement of my C2S. However, I am apparently a speed whore so I can't go back. :-) Yes, you pay more for the comparable model when comparing the Porsche vs. a BMW just the same as you do Mercedes to Hyundai. You are paying for more than speed. Price as a basis for considering cars "comparable" is not a true qualifier unless you are weighing interests of affordability when making a purchase.
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I think the fascination with videos posted (like the one that started this thread), is illustrative of the satisfaction the M5 owners derrive from knowing that their cars are faster in a straight line than an iconic German sports car. You are right, the 911 was designed from the ground up as a sports car...yet in a key metric (straight line performance), the big..overweight..cheaper (option for option).. M5 dominates it. Yes, we know that when you start throwing curves and turns, the domination pendulum will swing to the lighter more nimble 991 Carrera. No doubt. But I also think that 80% of the 911 buying public buy their car THINKING that it is faster in any performance metric than any mundane 4 door sedan and probably faster than anything they aren't sitting in at the time. I think that is where the satisfaction comes full circle. Knowing that you can humble that guy at the stop light next to you who bought the pretty badge from Zuffenhausen and thinks his 911 Carrera is faster than everything else on the road. Obviously, real automotive enthusiasts buy 911s as well and they are not the targets because they would know better and respect the M5 (at least from a roll). |
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All I am saying is that I don't have that much use for a pure sports car but he 911 is obviously veering away from that given the upgrade to the interior in the 991 version. Styling has also been given a nod. I am not saying I don't like the 911 and that I won't get one because I will as soon as the oil well pumps it's first 50,000 barrels of oil. However, I will still use the M5 more and get more for my money as a result. |
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Weirdly I had a new Boxster (Not sure if it was an S or not) jump on me at a light on Tuesday night trying to impress his passenger I suspect. I wasn't expecting it at all so he jumped me a little at the start then I went by pretty quickly seemingly to his disbelief as at the next light when they pulled beside me again the passenger was looking over at me but he wouldn't look
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Because I let someone else take the initial depreciation hit on a car, and when the opportunity arose, I got the chance to jump on a great deal on a great car. It was always garaged, smells new inside, has warranty, and less miles than the M5.
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This is how it feels lining up next to an M5/M6 (and a 458...and an AMG....and a Vette...and a Mustang....and....well...EVERYTHING) in the TTS!-lol!
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Everything? I would have loved to have been lined up against your TT-S with my old GT-R...it would have been a VERY humbling experience for you (best vbox run of 10.71 @ 137+mph out on the street with all season tires and no launch control).
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Apple to Apple? Turbo to Turbo?
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The deal is that in a comparison of the M5 vs a Porsche it's the Turbo that is the competitor.
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Yes. Stock Turbo to stock GT-R would be the match up. Sort of like Stock M5/6 vs. Turbo. See, easy stuff.
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Thanks for clarification
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