Well shit. Next CTS-V unveiled. 250lbs lighter than an M5 with 640hp and 630tq

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

Funny how America is releasing some seriously badass cars, and we've got BMW fanboys in here immediately discrediting the car without it even being available yet. Come on guys.

'Murica!

I don't discredit. I just state the facts.

[ucla95]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

the depreciation on the 2013 M5 is horrible

+1

As an aside - bimmerpost has the best smilies:

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by ucla95

+1

As an aside - bimmerpost has the best smilies:

That it does sir. Lol!

[bodonx]

Originally Posted by scottiekay

Ill say this yea it looks nice. But in all honesty the overall quality is junk. The interior quality is typical american fit and finish and the attention to detail is nothing like the BMW. Will I go look at it, sure. But I am not expecting to trade the M5 in for it. Lastly, that car wont hold its value like any BMW does.

That's the AMG/Caddy lovers' excuses several yrs ago when M beat them.

Give them credit when it's due. Look is subjective. Performance numbers cannot lie.

[DrewM5]

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

The Cadillac CTS-V design is a bit ugly to me. The rear end in particular looks like a 20 year old design from a Cadillac DTS.

They really need to ditch the art-and-science theme and move on to something truly modern. This car just isn't sleek and sporty. It looks like old school America with a few out of place stick on carbon fiber bits. Also I find these huge spoilers to be ugly on a sedan - they should just go with Active Aero like the Panamera.

I don't know exactly why, but the style conjures up memories of the early '80s Buick Regal Grand National.

[BossBeamer]

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

A few points:

1) Buying a car end of model year in May is not smart if you plan to keep it for a short period of time. Even with your discount you paid a lot for the rest of 2013. It's always smart to get a car at the beginning of the model year if you want to minimize monthly depreciation.

2) The dealer you traded it to will likely sell that car for over $70k as you could have if you sold it privately.

Trade-in values for luxury cars are depressed because the dealers know that the people who own them are happy to piss away money and will take whatever they are given. My observation of the vast majority on this board confirm that. Retail values are another story. As noted before when I sold my 2013 M5 I beat trade-in by about $15k.

Preach 😎. People have to understand, buying a new car is the worst investment you can do. But there are multiple things you can do that makes sure
Your investment doesnt cost you "30k in 2 years", like selling the car after 2 years and selling it to a dealer. Worst mistake.

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by BossBeamer

Preach 😎. People have to understand, buying a new car is the worst investment you can do. But there are multiple things you can do that makes sure
Your investment doesnt cost you "30k in 2 years", like selling the car after 2 years and selling it to a dealer. Worst mistake.

Buying a car is far from an investment.

[PhilT3]

No thanks. I don't like the exterior or interior design. And at the end of the day...it's still a Cadillac and they are still measuring against the Germans.

Sure, it has more power. But for me, I don't intend on racing anyone in my M5. So, I believe the HP #'s in these super-sedans are getting to simply be for 'bench racing ' and bragging rights.

But ultimately.... To each his own. Just not for me.

[m5sdse63]

Caddy? No thanks... If you want the hp bragging rights then Hellcat it is. I'll take the less powerful and slower M5.

[bronch]

Originally Posted by bodonx

That's the AMG/Caddy lovers' excuses several yrs ago when M beat them.

Give them credit when it's due. Look is subjective. Performance numbers cannot lie.

I agree they deserve credit, seems like everyone is catching up and BMW needs to make a paradigm shift again and I suspect they might be with all the R&D into hybrid tech. Whether this true, will play out. But let's see how it actually puts the power to pavement. If it's done well, these cars will be all over the roads as a competitor (deserved or not) to the M5/6 at half the price I'm guessing and wanting to race on every freeway or stop light. The interior materials are cheaper in comparison I think, it's another performance car at the cost of luxury. I know that too is in the eye of the beholder, but I still don't believe anyone does it quite like the Germans (+Italians, et al.) with respect to both. That might be changing, but isn't true at the moment, again... imo.

[Timberwolf]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Buying a car is far from an investment.

It is an investment. In my happiness which is worth big bucks!!

[bronch]

For those that don't think it's direct a competitor... GM thinks otherwise. Now, my car hasn't even been built yet and the new CTS-V promos are impressive, but haven't swayed me. I'm betting that the interior will be the same old GM stuff. I've sat in the new Z06 and it's better than the old, but still not up to par. Perhaps, I'll eat my words and this car will be a BMW killer, then I'll consider buying American again. I actually hope that's the case, but I'll wait to see what actually is and can do..

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by Timberwolf

It is an investment. In my happiness which is worth big bucks!!

Hi Timber! 🎅

[soooma]

Looks hideous
Ans test drove the older CTS V coupe and was unimpressed badly!

This looks bad bit umbe and weight speak volumes for what type of car it will be

[DATM3]

I just traded my '14 C7 Corvette Z51 3LT white/red in for a '13 M5 after 3 months of ownership. There was really nothing i hated about the corvette, but I never really fell in love with it. It's the special feeling in your hands while driving a M that is just indescribable.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by soooma

Looks hideous
Ans test drove the older CTS V coupe and was unimpressed badly!

This looks bad bit umbe and weight speak volumes for what type of car it will be

I test drove the same car compared to the E60 M5, and the only thing that impressed me was the stock exhaust note. Lol!