This Chinese Are Already Knocking Off Parts

[jeff@autocouture]

Originally Posted by Merli

There is a rampant band of intelligencia on here who think that paying massively inflated prices is "prestigious".

I love that these geniuses call well-made products like these: "chinese knock offs" but apparently RKP carbon diffusers, RW carbon M4 spoilers and Mode Carbon M3 spoilers are "tuner products"...

Absolutely laughable

Apparently, if you spend a ton on marketing, making pretty videos, taking lovely photos and posting well-written marketing prose on the forums, means you can put a 4000% mark up on your products and get praised for it, but selling the EXACT SAME PRODUCT for 20% mark up gets you labelled a "knock off"

Originally Posted by Andrew@IND

The RKP F8X M3/M4, M5, and M6 products are built in the Midwest with US engineers and US labor. The technician featured below, Craig, is RKP's lead technician whose previous employer was Penske IRL.

Not sure how the RKP diffuser is a "cheap" knock off, when its not even a knock off,

As Andrew pointed out its made in the us and is its own desgin

[Ryan@IND]

Originally Posted by Merli

I know right?

Look at all this "knock off" shit that's invading our forums...

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1050946

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1056697

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1026187

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1039716

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1038903

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1052688

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1023814

It's disgusting how all these shit knockoffs are flooding the market.

I should also mention that the "CRT" theme spoiler, "F80 M3 BMW Performance Spoiler W/CRT Stripe", is a paint service that we provide all the while utilizing an OEM BMW M Performance spoiler. This is not a knock off. This is disclosed in the link you mention as well as our website.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1023814

http://ind-distribution.com/ind/cate...k-spoiler-1183

[Boostin FD]

about time! I was waiting for a cheaper lip. At least now when I scrape the shit out of it, I won't feel bad that I spent 1k on a OEM lip.

[Gstone]

Originally Posted by Boostin FD

about time! I was waiting for a cheaper lip. At least now when I scrape the shit out of it, I won't feel bad that I spent 1k on a OEM lip.

Agree

[RW Carbon]

Love it or hate it their will always be replicated parts. Whether it is wheels, performance or aero parts, replicas give the buyer the ability to choose and pay less for a product that otherwise would be out of their budget. By introducing replica parts like these it gives the consumer an entry level choice on products that are affordable and still great quality.

There is no need to see these replicas as a threat to the genuine pieces. This is because the people that want the real deal will always spend the extra money for the brand name. However, there will always be demand for the consumer who does not want to fork out thousands of dollars on mods no matter what vehicle they drive.

[Revartr]

I'm pretty sure that @Merli was being sarcastic, and you guys are just taking it way too seriously. Could be wrong though.

[m3incorp]

I'm really surprised that others didn't see that it sarcasm. What I THINK he/she was implying is that if IT IS NOT OEM, then many would say that it is a knockoff. I'm all about a person spending THEIR money where and how they want.

Originally Posted by Revartr

I'm pretty sure that @Merli was being sarcastic, and you guys are just taking it way too seriously. Could be wrong though.

[Merli]

Thank you revartr and m3incorp...

I thought I laced my post with enough sarcasm so that it was dripping with it.

It was far from an attack on the great products that our forum sponsors make. I currently have an order with IND for their products for my M4, and am currently leaning towards RKP's diffuser over the M Performance one.

My post was commentary on the pathetic double standard that forum members display against Chinese-made products. Just because it's Chinese, it's suddenly labelled as a "knock off"?

If it weren't for Chinese manufacturing at low labor costs, half this forum wouldn't be able to afford half of the material goods that they own.

There's a market for OEM, premium aftermarket, and low cost replicas. law of diminishing returns is in full effect however, with Chinese replicas representing unbeatable value for the price conscious.

[MasterP]

The OEM Genuine parts are made in China. So is it an anti china thing? Or is it anti non OEM thing?

[motex]

Being an importer for almost 30 years, one thing is for sure, you get what you pay for, I mean china makes all types of qualities, from the worst dispossable junk to top quality products such iPhones or iPads, is a matter of controlling quality and manufacturing processes.
So not all Chinese products are poor quality, but you have to be very careful before you buy, do some research, mostly on items that can compromise your life like wheels replicas, or items that can compromise your car like electronics, but a spoiler or lip are just cosmetics, the worst can happen is being unhappy with the final product, without compromising safety.

[YMB-M3-J2]

I love paying less for mods. The markup on the OEM parts is up there a little much..its not about the money at all..its principal..even some of the forum sponsors charge outrageous prices for stuff that shouldnt be that high. $110 for paint reflectors? really? the parts cost is only $21.00 and paint labor and costs probably around $15.00 but since they are the first ones to sell them they can charge a higher cost so i welcome the chinese products because a lot of them are great quality.

[NorCal f80]

Originally Posted by YMB_M3_j2

even some of the forum sponsors charge outrageous prices for stuff that shouldnt be that high. $110 for paint reflectors? really?

I thought I read someone post about black OEM surround grilles being cheaper than a popular forum sponsor's painted surround on here.

[YMB-M3-J2]

Originally Posted by 0-100 nga real quick

I thought I read someone post about black OEM surround grilles being cheaper than a popular forum sponsor's painted surround on here.

they absolutely are. I just ordered a set Black OEM F32 complete grills for my M4 from BMW of Tenafly in Jersey. I just removed the single slat centers and replaced with my double slats and now i have a brand new complete set of chrome grills for an F32 that i can sell for a bit of return. They are the were $110 shipped total.. that "popular sponsor" is selling the painted ones for like $30 more.

[NorCal f80]

Originally Posted by YMB_M3_j2

they absolutely are. I just ordered a set Black OEM F32 complete grills for my M4 from BMW of Tenafly in Jersey. I just removed the single slat centers and replaced with my double slats and now i have a brand new complete set of chrome grills for an F32 that i can sell for a bit of return. They are the were $110 shipped total.. that "popular sponsor" is selling the painted ones for like $30 more.

I bought mine from that sponsor and then after read about the F32 being cheaper.

[YMB-M3-J2]

that sucks

[GarlicBun]

I just hope the quality and fitment are decent....
Then i will definitely go for this instead of oem!
$1000 is too much for putting in the front just making scratches!

[s85e90]

FYI some of the parts sold on here by vendors are made in China. And you folks don't care as long as you pay a premium for it. RKP made in America? Great, still overpriced. It's a shame "made in America" isn't what it used to mean. Labor is wayyy to expensive here to support any real manufacturing anymore.

[Bowser330]

I wonder how many companies are using 3D scanning & printing to replicate parts?

[m3incorp]

I don't support buying this Chinese stuff BUT if what you say were true, then there would not be any AFTERMARKET parts. I would hope that those people that buy the replica handbags know that is what they are getting. It becomes counterfeit WHEN the company is trying to sell it as the ORIGINAL instead of the replica.

This particular Chinese company is not saying that they are selling the OEM BMW equipment. I'm sure you get what I'm saying.

Originally Posted by Bowser330

I am pretty sure if BMW has a design patent on the front lip spoiler and another company, let's say in China, replicates it, the replica part is considered a counterfeit product and is illegal in the US and most other countries (with the exception of China which doesn't recognize patent law). So actually yes, it is exactly like the replica handbags you mentioned.

You get what you pay for, if you pay a premium I am sure you'll get premium product quality with premium customer service to address any questions or concerns. Not sure what level of product quality or what sort of service you'd expect from AliExpress....

[myemailsea]

Buy whatever you want. I personally don't buy replicas of ANY product as it's simply not the real deal regardless of the manufactures country of orgin.

Regardless of all that . . . Is 110.00 expensive? Is 1,000.00 excessive? I don't think it's a matter of price point so much as what YOU can afford or are willing to spend.

No one should disparage another's purchase . . . Just smile and be happy their hobby is bringing them satisfaction.

Cheers

[DandyKing]

Originally Posted by GarlicBun

I just hope the quality and fitment are decent....
Then i will definitely go for this instead of oem!
$1000 is too much for putting in the front just making scratches!

Yup the one thing that peaked my interest is the lip. Everyone tells me it sits pretty low and will run amok on it dealing with parking lots. Makes no sense to pay so much for something that can easily scratch or worse break.

[dmk08]

The car is German. Whats with all these darn American knock off parts.