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Best lidar shifter?
What are the best lidar defense systems. I've heard the Blinder HP-905 is good.
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Blinder vs. Antilaser
I've heard they use the same sensors.
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"This company (Antilaser) is fairly new and has not been open for more than one year. They pay Blinder royalties for use of their seven series technology, which is three years old and is an outdated technology (and the price they are charging is through the roof). Call Bonnie at Blinder Xtreme at 866-622-7219, she has been doing this for over thirteen years and knows everything out there regarding laser defeat systems. The patents for the technology, I believe, are from Blinder of Belgium. I did quite a bit of research on this and always ended back at Blinder when identifying which product was the best technology and most up to date. I actually purchased my units through Radar Roy, who has some excellent videos showing how the product performs as well as similar products from other manufacturer's. I found out later that I could have saved some money by dealing direct with Blinder Xtreme of Florida, where Radar Roy sources his inventory."
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The AL Priority is the hottest lidar countermeasure right now. If the HP 905 would be updated maybe they might be as good. However, I don't believe they've had a firmware update in over a year, maybe two. The HP905 is NOT the most up to date technology in this fast moving field. The ALP is effective on nearly every lidar gun (maybe even ALL to date but not willing to stick my neck out on this since laser guns are always being updated), whereas the HP 905 fails on many current models. The laser interceptor is more effective than the HP 905, and nearly, but not completely as effective as the ALP. The Escort shifter pro seems to be a re-packaged laser interceptor. There are others, such as the K40, but these are really not worth mentioning. As always, with these things the key to success is installation and testing and adjusting the installation for best results. And don't think these things will make you ticket proof. They just buy you a bit of time to adjust your driving. It's still up to you to modify you driving behavior to stay away from speeding citations. Cheers, Ersin
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Total BS According to Blinder, ALP never paid up, that is why there is a pending court case. As far as not having any firmware updates that is BS too. In this video the Blinder jammed the Dragon Eye: http://www.radardetector.org/2014-laser-jammer-shoot/ I have no prejudices on this subject; just trying to make a smart purchase.
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http://radarandlaserforum.com/showth...-Compact-LIDAR
Unless Antilaser is fraudulent -it Jams the dragoneye to gun. |
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You should know that Radar Roy owns radardetector.org and also sells these countermeasures. There is only one internet retailer for the ALP in the US and it is not Roy. Google and check out other jammer "shoot out" results on the internet. For a real unbiased assessment you should do your own testing. Hang out at rdforum dot net, get to know some of the guys from the forum in your area with lidar guns and then test against them. Go to some of the meet ups they have periodically with several different guns and see the results first hand. I guarantee that if you believe Roy's results the meets will be an eye opener. I'm not having prejudices either. But facts are facts. Cheers.
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The HP905 may be all you need if the guns that it cannot jam are not encountered where you drive. For the ones that it works against, it works well. The set of guns the laser interceptor works against is larger than that of the HP905. And the ALP, larger still. However, you need to know what guns are being used where you drive. The aforementioned forum can help with this. You could also get a Whistler CR85 or CR90. These detectors show you the lidar pulse rate and from there you can figure out what is being used. You can also search for purchase orders from the police department that you encounter which could tell you what products are being used. But the beauty of the ALP is that since it works against all devices currently (I'll say maybe all -- as I said before this is a fast changing field) you just get it and don't worry what's out there. Another nice thing about the ALP is that when a new gun is encountered there are ways that the ALP can learn the new patterns and the information can be sent back to Antilaser. So far, they've been very fast in getting out firmware updates that take care of new guns. Bear in mind that for any lidar jamming countermeasure installation is extremely important. You really should find someone with a lidar gun to test and help you fine tune your installation. It is not as simple as sticking a radar detector up on the windshield. Again, good luck. Cheers.
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All great info as I've been looking into this as well.
Quick dumb question - do all of these come with an "off switch" so that when my V1 goes off that I'm being hit with laser and my laser jammer is blocking that I can quickly slow down and turn it off so if he hits me again it shows my true and safe speed? I know they aren't legal in CA and so would rather them get an actual reading, just after I slow down enough and turn it off. |
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The AL and LI also have a setting where they will automatically turn off after about 3 or 4 seconds of jamming then reset themselves after about 30 seconds. Don't quote me on the actual numbers on this -- they are all slightly different. Cheers.
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Great info thanks ersin. Where are you guys mounting the sensors? I was looking at the AL Priority with 5 sensors as I'd want as much coverage as possible. Where on the M3 would you mount them? Also, if this package was purchased is this everything one would need? http://www.alpriorityusa.com/AL-Prio...ng-System.html Not sure what the LCC Sensor does and am not quite sure why you'd need the Display as it's already making an audible sound correct? |
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The package you refer to has everything you need. There are options but it's up to you if you want them or not. The LCC is for those cars that have the driver assist nannies. Some of these use laser and this will use the fifth head to monitor this and notify the ALP not to alert to the cars own driver aid laser signals. However, I don't think the driver aids on the M3/M4 use lidar, only radar, so LCC should not be needed even if you have the driver assist package. However, the driver assist package may set off radar detectors. Possibly inside the car, but definitely for others on the road. Good luck. Cheers.
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I just want to clear some stuff up. I know some people that work with Antilaser and I've been checking with them about what has been said here so let me present their side.
Antilaser has been in business since 1998. They have been doing this stuff for 16 years. I don't know how old the others are but AL has been in it since the beginning. You can verify all of this yourself; their headquarters are in Croatia. Second, AL has never been sued by Blinder and there is no pending lawsuit. If someone says otherwise please show me the evidence. Third, it shouldn't need to be said but ALP and Blinder heads are not the same. They are similar in dimension and this may have thrown some people off. Lastly, AL has their own patents in the US and Internationally. Some patents are still pending because they are very new which means they have technology that nobody else yet has. I'm not trying to be a cheerleader for AL but the facts need to be set straight. Thanks. Cheers, Ersin
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Also, are there shoot-outs like Roy's 2014 that would compare all of these as he did and then post the results? You had hinted at something like this but a link would be awesome. thanks! |
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