Powered Top Problem

nonsns3 · 02-05-2008, 08:32 PM

Tried doing a search - no luck.

Normal operations of opening the powered top:
1) Top unlocks & Windows rolls down partially
2) Top goes down
3) Top relocks at the down position
4) Power motor stops running and the light next to the button goes off

It was warm enough here today so I decided to put the top down. All was fine until step 4 above, the motor that locks the top down keeps going as long as the button is pressed. If I stop pressing the top down button, the light next to the button is flashing as if the top down operation is incomplete even though the top looks completely down and secured.

Anyone seen this?

BlackSapphireZ · 02-05-2008, 09:52 PM

You got warranty just take it to the dealer

pbdm4k · 02-05-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackSapphireZ

You got warranty just take it to the dealer

LoL, agreed.

You're locking mechanism is probably broken if it keeps trying to lock and nothing is happening.

mas3423 · 02-05-2008, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nonsns3

Tried doing a search - no luck.

Normal operations of opening the powered top:
1) Top unlocks & Windows rolls down partially
2) Top goes down
3) Top relocks at the down position
4) Power motor stops running and the light next to the button goes off

It was warm enough here today so I decided to put the top down. All was fine until step 4 above, the motor that locks the top down keeps going as long as the button is pressed. If I stop pressing the top down button, the light next to the button is flashing as if the top down operation is incomplete even though the top looks completely down and secured.

Anyone seen this?

ive seen the red light flash once before. but all i had to do was hold it down again, and it stopped. no problems since.

nonsns3 · 02-06-2008, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackSapphireZ

You got warranty just take it to the dealer

yeah I know was just there to fix a suspension problem a week ago. Just making sure it wasn't some switch or knob I might have forgotten.

Plus since it's the roof I might take out the Reinhold remote module so they don't blame it.

Reach · 02-06-2008, 11:22 AM

nonsns3, just curious, do you have the 1-touch roof module as well, or just the remote roof module?

nonsns3 · 02-06-2008, 11:57 AM

Just the remote roof module. It is still one of my favorite mods.

pbdm4k · 02-06-2008, 02:09 PM

Being an 06 model, shouldn't your car already have that feature without the need for the Reinhold module?

nonsns3 · 02-06-2008, 04:29 PM

Stock:
- Press unlock, then press and hold unlock again. Roof opens and windows go down completely
- Lock button does nothing to the roof and there is no way to close the roof and windows away from the car.

Module:
- Press unlock three times (no need to hold) - Windows go down half way, roof opens up, windows roll up completely.
- Press lock three times (no need to hold) - Windows go down half way, roof closes, windows roll up completely.

That means when I get to my destination, triple lock & walk away, the car locks, roof and windows close up. If the roof is up and I triple lock, the windows will roll up.

imz4n · 04-17-2008, 06:36 PM

nonsns3
When you put the reinhold module in, did you already have the oem top down feature? Did you remove the OEM ?

TIA

nonsns3 · 04-18-2008, 12:17 PM

Yes, the OEM feature was there and is still there. They do not conflict with each other and no stock functionalities lost. So I can put the top down by triple unlock, or unlock and hold. Note that even though the roof goes down by either method, the resulting window position is different as noted in my post above.

imz4n · 04-18-2008, 12:41 PM

nonsns3

Thank you for the reply. I will have one in my hot little hands by Saturday night and You'll never guess what my Sunday will be spent doing. Thank you again. Good information.

caseysc · 04-18-2008, 12:53 PM

Looked up the Reinhold module and the web site says no shipping to USA. Is there a different source?

nonsns3 · 04-18-2008, 01:39 PM

I did a group purchase, shipped to a member in Europe and had him ship to us. This was back in Z4um days.

I wouldn't mind purchasing the additional one-touch module. Though, in retrospect, should have done it when the dollar was worth more.

imz4n · 04-18-2008, 01:55 PM

You are correct, they will not ship. It's called networking, make a friend in Europe or actually anywhere outside the States and when they come to your city for business or vacation, get them to bring one. There is no easy way to do this. I have been working at getting one for over two years, ever since I found out about them. I did not want to greedy and ask for more than I needed, could have made a killing if I had. Sorry.

imz4n · 04-18-2008, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nonsns3

I did a group purchase, shipped to a member in Europe and had him ship to us. This was back in Z4um days.

I wouldn't mind purchasing the additional one-touch module. Though, in retrospect, should have done it when the dollar was worth more.

Do you know that that same group of people are on another forum? www.Z4-forum.com

pbdm4k · 04-18-2008, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caseysc

Looked up the Reinhold module and the web site says no shipping to USA. Is there a different source?

Reinhold won't ship to the US due to legal problems.

No other source as they are only made and sold out of Germany.

I bought from them, but lucky for me, I'm in Canada and I bought both modules.

If enough of you guys are interested, I'd be willing to help act as a shipping hub here in Canada if you want to do another group buy.

nonsns3 · 04-18-2008, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imz4n

nonsns3

Thank you for the reply. I will have one in my hot little hands by Saturday night and You'll never guess what my Sunday will be spent doing. Thank you again. Good information.

The installation isn't too bad but feel free to PM me if have any questions. G'luck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by imz4n

Do you know that that same group of people are on another forum? www.Z4-forum.com

Shhhhh.... don't tell them I like you guys better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbdm4k

If enough of you guys are interested, I'd be willing to help act as a shipping hub here in Canada if you want to do another group buy.

Did a quick conversion for you guys:
One touch module $129 EUROs ~ $204 USD
Remote Roof Module $249 EUROs ~ $393 USD ... ouch!

nonsns3 · 04-18-2008, 09:03 PM

So back to the original topic...

...
I finally got the roof fix. Just in case anyone has the same problem and is searching this thread later, the work order as follows:

"Replace failed convertible top switch. Failed top sensor for stowed position. Replaced sensor (bottom side of right pillar)."

Parts:
(1) 61-31-8-378-940 Switch
(4) 61-13-8-353-746 Cable Connector
(4) 61-13-1-379-833 Shrinking Hose

rosierobins2003 · 04-20-2008, 05:28 PM

would be nice....just need the person to install for me. The roof one touch and the garage door remote are about the only two things I don't have.

Glad you'll be kept out of trouble IMZ4N....

Rosie

Reach · 04-21-2008, 11:19 PM

(1) 61-31-8-378-940 Switch - $16.90
(4) 61-13-8-353-746 Cable Connector - $0.57 x 4 = $2.28
(4) 61-13-1-379-833 Shrinking Hose - $$1.07 x 4 = $4.28
(all prices MSRP)

Sounds like a cheap repair at least! This may be good to know for later.

imz4n · 04-21-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rosierobins2003

would be nice....just need the person to install for me. The roof one touch and the garage door remote are about the only two things I don't have.

Glad you'll be kept out of trouble IMZ4N....

Rosie

02-05-2008, 08:32 PM	#1
nonsns3 Private First Class 8 Rep 108 Posts Drives: F-Type R, Wrangler Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ashburn, VA iTrader: (0)	Powered Top Problem Tried doing a search - no luck. Normal operations of opening the powered top: 1) Top unlocks & Windows rolls down partially 2) Top goes down 3) Top relocks at the down position 4) Power motor stops running and the light next to the button goes off It was warm enough here today so I decided to put the top down. All was fine until step 4 above, the motor that locks the top down keeps going as long as the button is pressed. If I stop pressing the top down button, the light next to the button is flashing as if the top down operation is incomplete even though the top looks completely down and secured. Anyone seen this?
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Reach gone baby gone 382 Rep 1,052 Posts Drives: 2016 F80 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Location, Location. iTrader: (0)	nonsns3, just curious, do you have the 1-touch roof module as well, or just the remote roof module?
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nonsns3 Private First Class 8 Rep 108 Posts Drives: F-Type R, Wrangler Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ashburn, VA iTrader: (0)	Just the remote roof module. It is still one of my favorite mods.
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nonsns3 Private First Class 8 Rep 108 Posts Drives: F-Type R, Wrangler Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ashburn, VA iTrader: (0)	Stock: - Press unlock, then press and hold unlock again. Roof opens and windows go down completely - Lock button does nothing to the roof and there is no way to close the roof and windows away from the car. Module: - Press unlock three times (no need to hold) - Windows go down half way, roof opens up, windows roll up completely. - Press lock three times (no need to hold) - Windows go down half way, roof closes, windows roll up completely. That means when I get to my destination, triple lock & walk away, the car locks, roof and windows close up. If the roof is up and I triple lock, the windows will roll up.
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imz4n Captain 57 Rep 822 Posts Drives: 2006 3,0 si TITANIUM SIlVER Join Date: May 2007 Location: Orange County Ca. iTrader: (0)	nonsns3 When you put the reinhold module in, did you already have the oem top down feature? Did you remove the OEM ? TIA __________________ SoCal Z Enthusiast contact me to get on the list. Events for like minded people and when you talk about your Z, we will know what you are saying. https://www.facebook.com/groups/ZSCCACalifornia/
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nonsns3 Private First Class 8 Rep 108 Posts Drives: F-Type R, Wrangler Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ashburn, VA iTrader: (0)	Yes, the OEM feature was there and is still there. They do not conflict with each other and no stock functionalities lost. So I can put the top down by triple unlock, or unlock and hold. Note that even though the roof goes down by either method, the resulting window position is different as noted in my post above.
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imz4n Captain 57 Rep 822 Posts Drives: 2006 3,0 si TITANIUM SIlVER Join Date: May 2007 Location: Orange County Ca. iTrader: (0)	nonsns3 Thank you for the reply. I will have one in my hot little hands by Saturday night and You'll never guess what my Sunday will be spent doing. Thank you again. Good information. __________________ SoCal Z Enthusiast contact me to get on the list. Events for like minded people and when you talk about your Z, we will know what you are saying. https://www.facebook.com/groups/ZSCCACalifornia/
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caseysc Second Lieutenant 9 Rep 274 Posts Drives: 2010 128i Conv. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Aiken, SC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 Z4 2.5i [8.00]	Looked up the Reinhold module and the web site says no shipping to USA. Is there a different source?
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nonsns3 Private First Class 8 Rep 108 Posts Drives: F-Type R, Wrangler Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ashburn, VA iTrader: (0)	I did a group purchase, shipped to a member in Europe and had him ship to us. This was back in Z4um days. I wouldn't mind purchasing the additional one-touch module. Though, in retrospect, should have done it when the dollar was worth more. Last edited by nonsns3; 04-18-2008 at 01:54 PM..
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imz4n Captain 57 Rep 822 Posts Drives: 2006 3,0 si TITANIUM SIlVER Join Date: May 2007 Location: Orange County Ca. iTrader: (0)	You are correct, they will not ship. It's called networking, make a friend in Europe or actually anywhere outside the States and when they come to your city for business or vacation, get them to bring one. There is no easy way to do this. I have been working at getting one for over two years, ever since I found out about them. I did not want to greedy and ask for more than I needed, could have made a killing if I had. Sorry. __________________ SoCal Z Enthusiast contact me to get on the list. Events for like minded people and when you talk about your Z, we will know what you are saying. https://www.facebook.com/groups/ZSCCACalifornia/
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nonsns3 Private First Class 8 Rep 108 Posts Drives: F-Type R, Wrangler Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ashburn, VA iTrader: (0)	So back to the original topic...... I finally got the roof fix. Just in case anyone has the same problem and is searching this thread later, the work order as follows: "Replace failed convertible top switch. Failed top sensor for stowed position. Replaced sensor (bottom side of right pillar)." Parts: (1) 61-31-8-378-940 Switch (4) 61-13-8-353-746 Cable Connector (4) 61-13-1-379-833 Shrinking Hose Last edited by nonsns3; 04-22-2008 at 01:41 AM..
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Reach gone baby gone 382 Rep 1,052 Posts Drives: 2016 F80 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Location, Location. iTrader: (0)	(1) 61-31-8-378-940 Switch - $16.90 (4) 61-13-8-353-746 Cable Connector - $0.57 x 4 = $2.28 (4) 61-13-1-379-833 Shrinking Hose - $$1.07 x 4 = $4.28 (all prices MSRP) Sounds like a cheap repair at least! This may be good to know for later.
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