BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > M3 (E90 / E92 / E93) > General M3 Forum (E90 + E92 + E93)
 
BPM
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-13-2015, 02:55 PM   #1
pzzvv
LURKER
pzzvv's Avatar
19
Rep
98
Posts

Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: CT

iTrader: (0)

Belly Pan Cover - Is it really necessary?

Long story short, my m3 is lowered, & the center belly pan is torn to shreds & one of the side felt pieces ripped off somewhere along the way. I know I can replace it, but there really isn't much point bc it will continue to scrape.

So my question is, how important are these pieces? I know they play a part in downforce & protecting some of the parts in the undercarriage, but besides that, if I were to have them removed, will my car be affected in a noticeable way? My next 8 months of driving will just be primarily around my campus.

I know there is a guy who makes them in aluminum, & I already messaged him, but as I asked above, are these pieces really that important & is anyone driving without them?
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2015, 03:16 PM   #2
Beemdog
Woof!
Beemdog's Avatar
United_States
352
Rep
1,323
Posts

Drives: '11 M3 ZCP LeMans Blue
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Sonoma Cownty, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
The large center undercarriage pan affects air-flow through the heat exchangers/radiator. How much I'm not sure. It does have a spill vent in it. You might also get some flapping of the front fascia at speed without these bits in place, possibly some panel rattles or noises.
Appreciate 0
      08-14-2015, 02:33 PM   #3
JoeKixxon
Captain
JoeKixxon's Avatar
United_States
715
Rep
746
Posts

Drives: 2016 M3 Sakhir Orange on Black
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Austin, Texas

iTrader: (0)

My driver's side felt-triangle got ground off and hung like a flap until I pulled it off like a scab. It hasn't changed anything. But if I leave a car show, peel out, and then hop a center island... I'll be sure to blame that.
Appreciate 3
GeorgeA758.00
      08-14-2015, 03:02 PM   #4
fhaze3
GLG-20
185
Rep
369
Posts

Drives: 18 Ram 2500 Ltd,e30 M52 Track
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: North Georgia

iTrader: (1)

PSI down by 1.5psi as well. HUGE difference.
Appreciate 2
      08-14-2015, 03:24 PM   #5
pzzvv
LURKER
pzzvv's Avatar
19
Rep
98
Posts

Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: CT

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fhaze3 View Post
PSI down by 1.5psi as well. HUGE difference.
Huh?
Appreciate 0
      08-14-2015, 10:18 PM   #6
pbonsalb
Lieutenant General
5234
Rep
10,616
Posts

Drives: 18 F90 M5, 99 E36 M3 Turbo
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: New England

iTrader: (4)

The front plastic tray may affect air passages and may help hold the bumper cover. Mine is a bit torn up also from 7 years of year round use. Replacing every 5 years might just be part of the cost of ownership. When I do mine, which I have patched together for now, I would consider aftermarket plastic or sheet metal if available. I will retain those front covers and not simply do away with them.
Appreciate 0
      08-15-2015, 03:45 PM   #7
schwin
Private
schwin's Avatar
9
Rep
55
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Indianapolis, IN

iTrader: (0)

Agreed. these are not cheap! Looking order mine soon at ECS

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-M3-S65_4.0L/ES2763340/
Appreciate 0
      08-15-2015, 05:06 PM   #8
VictorH
Major
433
Rep
1,286
Posts

Drives: '09 M3
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SC

iTrader: (4)

I just ordered a new center section only from my dealer yesterday and with BMWCCA discount it was $176.
Appreciate 0
      08-15-2015, 05:20 PM   #9
dparm
Stop the hate, get a V8
dparm's Avatar
United_States
3850
Rep
8,625
Posts

Drives: C7 Corvette GS, AMG C63 S
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Frisco, TX

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beemdog View Post
The large center undercarriage pan affects air-flow through the heat exchangers/radiator. How much I'm not sure. It does have a spill vent in it. You might also get some flapping of the front fascia at speed without these bits in place, possibly some panel rattles or noises.

Correct. It is there for several reasons:

A) aerodynamics
B) underhood air control
C) underhood protection

BMW did not put it there for no reason. You should replace it as soon as possible, though it's not like the car is undriveable until then. I would certainly avoid hitting large puddles or driving on crappy roads until then, however. Just think about what would happen if a bunch of water got thrown up onto a belt? Or if some rocks made their way onto a pulley?
__________________
Now: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport, 2021 AMG C63 S sedan
Past: 2011.5 M3 sedan ZCP
Appreciate 1
      08-15-2015, 07:07 PM   #10
quiksi
Captain
quiksi's Avatar
Taiwan
75
Rep
903
Posts

Drives: E90
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Houston, TX

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzzvv View Post
Huh?
was a joke reference to this dude

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1075458
__________________

2011 E90 M3 6mt AW/Speed Cloth - ZCP, Moonroof, non-iDrive - PCD 12/9/10
Painted reflectors, matte black grills/gills, Deansbimmer Belly Pan, DEI Alarm, Homelink/compass retrofit, Passport MAX2 Hardwire, GP Thunder 8500K, modmy3 LED interior, Dinan Mufflers, HRE P40 19" Satin Charcoal, Michelin PS4S
Appreciate 0
      08-15-2015, 07:09 PM   #11
fhaze3
GLG-20
185
Rep
369
Posts

Drives: 18 Ram 2500 Ltd,e30 M52 Track
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: North Georgia

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by quiksi View Post

Appreciate 0
      08-16-2015, 03:34 PM   #12
dreamspeed
Lieutenant Colonel
dreamspeed's Avatar
United_States
262
Rep
1,616
Posts

Drives: 6MT
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dparm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beemdog View Post
The large center undercarriage pan affects air-flow through the heat exchangers/radiator. How much I'm not sure. It does have a spill vent in it. You might also get some flapping of the front fascia at speed without these bits in place, possibly some panel rattles or noises.

Correct. It is there for several reasons:

A) aerodynamics
B) underhood air control
C) underhood protection

BMW did not put it there for no reason. You should replace it as soon as possible, though it's not like the car is undriveable until then. I would certainly avoid hitting large puddles or driving on crappy roads until then, however. Just think about what would happen if a bunch of water got thrown up onto a belt? Or if some rocks made their way onto a pulley?
I think in general the part is there to make the car "better" but not necessary for operation?
__________________
Appreciate 0
      08-16-2015, 04:05 PM   #13
pbonsalb
Lieutenant General
5234
Rep
10,616
Posts

Drives: 18 F90 M5, 99 E36 M3 Turbo
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: New England

iTrader: (4)

I know people who have driven other BMWs for years without the factory under tray.
Appreciate 0
      08-16-2015, 05:21 PM   #14
jdamore
Captain
jdamore's Avatar
433
Rep
855
Posts

Drives: 2008 e92 M3
Join Date: May 2013
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (4)

The covers are more important then lowering your car so much that your scraping everywhere.
__________________
-- 08 JB e92 6MT ///M3 ESS VT2-625 --
Appreciate 0
      08-16-2015, 07:54 PM   #15
4corners
Major
4corners's Avatar
United_States
391
Rep
1,133
Posts

Drives: 2008 Jet Black M3 Coupe
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Yucca Valley, CA - Kelowna, BC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
next time mine are replaced i'll douse them in resin to make them stronger.
Appreciate 0
      08-17-2015, 08:34 AM   #16
schwin
Private
schwin's Avatar
9
Rep
55
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Indianapolis, IN

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dparm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beemdog View Post
The large center undercarriage pan affects air-flow through the heat exchangers/radiator. How much I'm not sure. It does have a spill vent in it. You might also get some flapping of the front fascia at speed without these bits in place, possibly some panel rattles or noises.

Correct. It is there for several reasons:

A) aerodynamics
B) underhood air control
C) underhood protection

BMW did not put it there for no reason. You should replace it as soon as possible, though it's not like the car is undriveable until then. I would certainly avoid hitting large puddles or driving on crappy roads until then, however. Just think about what would happen if a bunch of water got thrown up onto a belt? Or if some rocks made their way onto a pulley?
Not saying it was the sole cause of a cracked belly pan, but I went through a flash flood, and both xenon control modules went out as the rain filled up the streets. They are getting replaced as we speak!
Appreciate 0
      08-18-2015, 09:39 PM   #17
pzzvv
LURKER
pzzvv's Avatar
19
Rep
98
Posts

Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: CT

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by quiksi View Post
Whoops. Sorry I didn't catch on to that

Quote:
Originally Posted by pbonsalb View Post
I know people who have driven other BMWs for years without the factory under tray.
& no issues?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdamore View Post
The covers are more important then lowering your car so much that your scraping everywhere.
My car isn't unbelievably low, but the covers are scraping because of generally shitty inclines & roadwork where I live currently. But when I will be commuting from my apartment to my campus garage (a 1 mile drive), the car wont have anywhere to scrape. & given how busy I am at the moment, I just wanted to know how important it is to replace this part.
Appreciate 1
      09-04-2015, 11:41 AM   #18
goldsteina9
Second Lieutenant
48
Rep
231
Posts

Drives: 2011 M3
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: new jersey

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by pzzvv View Post
Whoops. Sorry I didn't catch on to that



& no issues?



My car isn't unbelievably low, but the covers are scraping because of generally shitty inclines & roadwork where I live currently. But when I will be commuting from my apartment to my campus garage (a 1 mile drive), the car wont have anywhere to scrape. & given how busy I am at the moment, I just wanted to know how important it is to replace this part.
you have nothing serious to worry about. I ripped mine off a while back and have since not had an issues. I'm slammed and have scraped undercarriage and frame without any issues.
Appreciate 0
      09-04-2015, 11:47 AM   #19
DSilk
Major
United_States
550
Rep
1,148
Posts

Drives: 2008 BMW M3 Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: South Florida

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 Jaguar XJ  [0.00]
2015 Jaguar XF  [0.00]
2014 VW GTI  [0.00]
2008 BMW M3 Coupe  [0.00]
2007 VW Passat 2.0T  [0.00]
The pan serves 3 purposes. First it is used to control airflow under the car. Second it is used to protect the soft aluminum oil pan. Finally it is used to keep the engine compartment cleaner and dryer. BMW didn't put it on for no reason. It's best to replace it.
Appreciate 0
      09-04-2015, 12:29 PM   #20
Move Over
Colonel
Move Over's Avatar
1258
Rep
2,492
Posts

Drives: M3 6MT
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Peninsula

iTrader: (9)

I had something fly up and hit my pan the other day. It dented the hell out of it in two areas. I bet if I didn't have my pan on...It would have put a crack through my oil pan. Luck of the draw if you are running without it.
Appreciate 1
GeorgeA758.00
      09-04-2015, 04:56 PM   #21
jdamore
Captain
jdamore's Avatar
433
Rep
855
Posts

Drives: 2008 e92 M3
Join Date: May 2013
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by goldsteina9 View Post
you have nothing serious to worry about. I ripped mine off a while back and have since not had an issues. I'm slammed and have scraped undercarriage and frame without any issues.
Form over function right?
__________________
-- 08 JB e92 6MT ///M3 ESS VT2-625 --
Appreciate 0
      09-04-2015, 05:49 PM   #22
Groundpilot
Banned
Groundpilot's Avatar
United_States
476
Rep
1,711
Posts

Drives: 135I DCT , e92 M3 DCT, Audi A6
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: long island,ny

iTrader: (0)

Does anyone know what is the openning in the middle of that pan is for?
I cracked mine a while ago and decided to replace it with self made pan from the thin sheet of plexiglass.
I left it solid, no openig and never had any problems, even on the race tracks. And i am supercharged.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:48 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST