Considering a 2016 Cayman GTS

[johntomferg]

I got interested in Cayman and started working a deal on it. I figured if the deal was good enough I'd go test drive it and make a decision.

Things were moving along favorably and I got sucked into some incorrect reporting on CarFAX for my vehicle. I'm working to get that resolved but it might be next week before it is fixed.

Unfortunately/fortunately, in the time that has passed I'm now back on the fence about it as I still do enjoy my M5, but reality is telling me it will not last forever (though I am a little emotionally attached to it having done European Delivery with it) and I know future costs will be coming (I'm at 76k miles on my '13 M5).

I'd like to collect your thoughts. Has anyone moved to a Cayman GTS or dual-owned a Cayman GTS and an M5? I know the paper arguments about the GT4 but the uplift in price/perception for it kills any interest I have.

I am aware of the 718 but also the stigma of a 4 cyl is a lot for me to overcome though I do like the tech upgrades in the 718 vs the outgoing GTS.

This is the specific one I am considering:

https://porscheofchattanooga.com/inv...rds+Red+615875

The only other car I am seriously considering is a Jaguar F-type Coupe, but I deplore the navigation in it and the wife already has a '14 F-type Vert V8S.

No kids, no dogs, a once a week commute of just under 100 miles (one way).

Anyway, I'll leave it at that - appreciate your thoughts / advisement.

[fkim119]

As balanced as the Cayman is, I really think you are going to miss the power you got from the F10. The cockpit is a bit cramped too if you are anything over 6'.

I started my Porsche journey from a 986 Boxster, to Cayman to 997 etc etc....

To me, the balance of the mid engine is really fun to drive even though it lacks the proper oomph. Would I make the change? Probably not. I would pony up and go the 2014 911 route and see if you can get a fantastic year end deal.

[elitex]

I agree. It's going to feel slow coming from an M5.

[ColdList]

Agreed that it will feel slow. However, the initial move that I made way back when as I pondered moving from BMW to Porsche involved trading my F10 M5 for a Carrera S. I had a hard time getting over the power difference at first. Then, as I drove the car more and more, I just got hooked on the Porsche experience. They have a special "feel" to them. I never looked back. 5 Porsches later and many exotics later I still find myself in love with Porsche. To me, it is THE very best brand hands down. I'm pondering a move right now to another. You truly cannot beat them.

[elitex]

Originally Posted by ColdList

Agreed that it will feel slow. However, the initial move that I made way back when as I pondered moving from BMW to Porsche involved trading my F10 M5 for a Carrera S. I had a hard time getting over the power difference at first. Then, as I drove the car more and more, I just got hooked on the Porsche experience. They have a special "feel" to them. I never looked back. 5 Porsches later and many exotics later I still find myself in love with Porsche. To me, it is THE very best brand hands down. I'm pondering a move right now to another. You truly cannot beat them.

I agree with you there also. But and this is just my opinion. Porsche regular series cars are a little overrated.

I've only owned 2 and I haven't driven a TTS yet. Porsche GT cars are great. If I go back to Porsche then it's definitely going to be GT3 or GT3 RS.

[Dionysus]

I currently own both M5 CP & 981 GT4; although not GTS happy to answer any questions you may have about these cars in comparison to each other.

I am also currently debating whether or not to extend warranty on my M5 (I'm only at 20K miles after 3 years), buy Macan (have driven both diesel & turbo) or consider 718. I do have an X5M test drive scheduled end Sept, if that doesn't go well, it may be goodbye to BMW for now.

With regards to the 718, I too have resisted the temptation due to the 4 cyl engine, however, the torque characteristics during 'lazy driving' and the addition of GT4 rear suspension & 991 TTS rack make it intriguing. I have been playing around with the 718 configurator but then keep thinking 5 cyl TT RS...

[ColdList]

Originally Posted by elitex

I agree with you there also. But and this is just my opinion. Porsche regular series cars are a little overrated.

I've only owned 2 and I haven't driven a TTS yet. Porsche GT cars are great. If I go back to Porsche then it's definitely going to be GT3 or GT3 RS.

The TTS is blistering fast man. You need to drive for sure. Best DD on the planet IMO. Having owned a 991 GT3 I think it will feel like a dog to you now that you have a 570S.

[boots]

Cold I beat tts but not from a dig. But I love the tts fo sho

[johntomferg]

I'm glad to see all the conversation this had spawned and the opinions being shared. I've got a little drive ahead of me tomorrow morning and then I'm going to test drive it. I'll let you all know what I think or decide. They are pricing favorably, financing lower than I would have expected, and offering a strong trade in price to me. But, if the car isn't what I want then I'll still pass.

[IANNUZZI]

Downgrade in every way except maybe handling....

[ColdList]

Originally Posted by boots

Cold I beat tts but not from a dig. But I love the tts fo sho

Hey boots. This 2017 is pretty quick. I bet they'd run pretty darn close :-)

Hope you are well.

[///M Ryder]

If you are planning any track time it's a no brainer. For daily light to light spirited driving you're going to miss the F10 power. Even with the weight reduction on the Cayman....the power to weight ratio will definitely still favor the F10. Now for fun factor and as stated above by Coldlist......the Porsche experience is all that you hear it is...........Phil

[johntomferg]

well guys....all I can say is thank you M5 for 76k miles of bliss and hello Cayman GTS! I like it so much more than I thought I would. 100 miles from the dealer and still putting a smile on my face.

[///M Ryder]

That's a good look....welcome to the "Dark Side".............Phil

[sdshah]

Sexy

[Vitacura]

Looks good, Congrats!

[johntomferg]

thank you! I will always remember my m5 fondly but now it is a different chapter. It is awesome that people on this board can be complimentary and not just 1 dimensionally aligned with a single manufacturer.

[elitex]

Nice! Looks beautiful. I love Red color in cars.

[ColdList]

Originally Posted by ///M Ryder

That's a good look....welcome to the "Dark Side".............Phil

DARK SIDE-hahahahaha! Those were the BEST threads!....I think I will start another as I made a switch again yesterday too as Stealth and Vic55 have made new recent Dark Side additions too. Then of course there's Bimmer6 who has forgotten his GT3 needs to see the road once in a while. We all seem to end up with these things. Ferrari 488 GTB goes up for sale next week and I'll drive my TTS until the Spyder arrives next spring.


OP-CONGRATS on that sexy ride. Perhaps the nicest Cayman GTS I've ever seen. The Porsche experience is like nothing else.

[SF_DCT]

Nice choice, I love the GTS in red!

[johntomferg]

I spent some time with the wife driving it yesterday to get her used to the car and how it drives differently than her Jag F-Type v8S vert. She really likes it as well, it is only slightly smaller than the Jag but obviously lighter as well. The pops and crackles in the Cayman in sport plus are not at the level of the F-Type but they are very competitive. Induction noise with the engine behind you in the Cayman wins hands down.


"Fire sale" of BMW M5 items going up today in the member classified section.

[stealth.pilot]

Originally Posted by elitex

I agree with you there also. But and this is just my opinion. Porsche regular series cars are a little overrated.

I've only owned 2 and I haven't driven a TTS yet. Porsche GT cars are great. If I go back to Porsche then it's definitely going to be GT3 or GT3 RS.

Agree with this. TTS is very special though.