Which Tune With Pure Turbos

[NFAM3]

I'm currently in the process of upgrading to the high flow Pure turbos. I'm also upgrading to SSP race clutch packs. The only item I'm still not sure about is the tune. I'm currently in Miami FL. I was talking to my shop, MPI, and we were talking about what tune, how many tunes, and whose tune. I'm curious to hear what everyone is using who has upgraded turbos and there experiences. Off the shelf? Custom? How does custom work if tuning remotely? Etc... I need to figure out what to do. Any help is appreciated.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Bm3 + JB4

[Lojs]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Bm3 + JB4

What's the reason we are not seeing custom tune-only setups yet?

[Justin.AutoTalent]

Originally Posted by Lojs

What's the reason we are not seeing custom tune-only setups yet?

Bootmod3 offers a custom tuning platform for those with PURE Turbos. We've done a couple cars that have gone this route. Bootmod3 with E50 mix and port injection put down 650WHP/680WTQ on our low reading DynoPack.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Lojs

What's the reason we are not seeing custom tune-only setups yet?

Not sure what you mean, we have customers running custom tunes

[Lawton438]

Originally Posted by Lojs

What's the reason we are not seeing custom tune-only setups yet?

If you're in reference to the jb4 I think that is used for meth injection control more than anything, could be wrong but that's how I understand it

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by Lawton438

If you're in reference to the jb4 I think that is used for meth injection control more than anything, could be wrong but that's how I understand it

That and easy boost control.

[Lojs]

Originally Posted by Justin.AutoTalent

Bootmod3 offers a custom tuning platform for those with PURE Turbos. We've done a couple cars that have gone this route. Bootmod3 with E50 mix and port injection put down 650WHP/680WTQ on our low reading DynoPack.

Would appreciate if you could share more details/results.

[Lojs]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Not sure what you mean, we have customers running custom tunes

What I meant is you mainly get to hear about all the JB4 assisted setups around here and tune only stay somehow "under the radar".
Would be great if you could share some results of your customers.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Lojs

What I meant is you mainly get to hear about all the JB4 assisted setups around here and tune only stay somehow "under the radar".
Would be great if you could share some results of your customers.

We dont have results for tune only, thats something you need to ask from tuners.

You can check shift sector results from the previous years for results on JB4 + Flash or JB4 only results.

You hear so much about JB4 + Flash because it is the setup that gives you most power.

[AhsanU]

Originally Posted by Lojs

What's the reason we are not seeing custom tune-only setups yet?

Do you mean why is the JB4 used in junction with the bootmod3 tune? It's because bootmod3 currently does not have meth injection control, but I believe it's in the works? (don't quote me on that). The JB4 is used for that, and boost control. With the Pure stage 2 system, I think many will recommend running meth simply for its cooling purposes. The JB4 is also necessary for port injection, if you're thinking about that too.

[Lojs]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

We dont have results for tune only, thats something you need to ask from tuners.

You can check shift sector results from the previous years for results on JB4 + Flash or JB4 only results.

You hear so much about JB4 + Flash because it is the setup that gives you most power.

Thanks for proving my point. Plenty of upgraded turbo cars with JB4 around, none with tune only.

[Lojs]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

We dont have results for tune only, thats something you need to ask from tuners.

You can check shift sector results from the previous years for results on JB4 + Flash or JB4 only results.

You hear so much about JB4 + Flash because it is the setup that gives you most power.

Does JB4 add any power over a tune on a pump fuel only setup?

[Lojs]

Originally Posted by AhsanU

Do you mean why is the JB4 used in junction with the bootmod3 tune? It's because bootmod3 currently does not have meth injection control, but I believe it's in the works? (don't quote me on that). The JB4 is used for that, and boost control. With the Pure stage 2 system, I think many will recommend running meth simply for its cooling purposes. The JB4 is also necessary for port injection, if you're thinking about that too.

Thanks. I know what a jb4 does, and it's a no brainer why 700hp+ cars run it. I am just surprised there isn't anyone around who just wants a stress-free turbo+tune+pump gas setup (like I do).

[Lojs]

Originally Posted by CaryTheLabelGuy

That and easy boost control.

Could you explain "easy"? Why would I want to mess around with my boost, once my tune is dialed in properly?

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by Lojs

Thanks. I know what a jb4 does, and it's a no brainer why 700hp+ cars run it. I am just surprised there isn't anyone around who just wants a stress-free turbo+tune+pump gas setup (like I do).

When combined with a back end flash, beyond just easy boost control and added safety systems (over boost, run lean, etc) you also pickup easy to use/change boost by gear, CANflap in dash, a passive in dash boost gauge to keep a general eye on things when you want to, and of course wireless bluetooth datalogging.

[Lojs]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

When combined with a back end flash, beyond just easy boost control and added safety systems (over boost, run lean, etc) you also pickup easy to use/change boost by gear, CANflap in dash, a passive in dash boost gauge to keep a general eye on things when you want to, and of course wireless bluetooth datalogging.

Mike, I have owned a jb4 for about a year now. So I am familiar with all the features. I think it is an awesome product and great value for what it is: a piggyback.

I have now got Pure turbos and bm3 (for now with ots st2). I am never going to run meth nor PI. So I was looking for a custom tune and don't want to be using jb4 anymore (multiple personal reasons).
It would be great if people with custom tunes could chime in and share their experience and results.

[Justin.AutoTalent]

Originally Posted by Lojs

Mike, I have owned a jb4 for about a year now. So I am familiar with all the features. I think it is an awesome product and great value for what it is: a piggyback.

I have now got Pure turbos and bm3 (for now with ots st2). I am never going to run meth nor PI. So I was looking for a custom tune and don't want to be using jb4 anymore (multiple personal reasons).
It would be great if people with custom tunes could chime in and share their experience and results.

@Acree may be able to chime in or ///m army

[lore2486]

Originally Posted by Lojs

Thanks for proving my point. Plenty of upgraded turbo cars with JB4 around, none with tune only.

Not true i run stage 2 pure turbos and bm3 stage 2 e30 map. Car feels very fast probably close to 600whp and can run more like e50 gas.

[NFAM3]

Originally Posted by lore2486

Not true i run stage 2 pure turbos and bm3 stage 2 e30 map. Car feels very fast probably close to 600whp and can run more like e50 gas.

Do you have a map for just 93? Or do you have to run e30 all the time?

[Lojs]

Originally Posted by NFAM3

Do you have a map for just 93? Or do you have to run e30 all the time?

Both of them are ots maps from PTF (not custom). The map for 93 is simply the stage 2 pump map. (Which is what I have as well. it is by no means slow, but I feel there is still some potential left from custom tuning for upgraded turbos.)
You can switch back and forth in a matter of minutes.

[NFAM3]

Originally Posted by Lojs

Both of them are ots maps from PTF (not custom). The map for 93 is simply the stage 2 pump map. (Which is what I have as well. it is by no means slow, but I feel there is still some potential left from custom tuning for upgraded turbos.)
You can switch back and forth in a matter of minutes.

Do you change it with a phone app like the JB4?