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[Jaymax85]

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[TrevorM3]

oh boy...

[horsepower_and_hounds]

Here it comes......

[Sleeper]

1. Leave it on performance map or Activation map if it makes you feel better.

2. No clue. People are inherently deceptive on trade-in to the dealer but more forthcoming on private sales.

[Invictus]

/me grabs a big tub of popcorn, a beer and a seat on the couch.

This is going to be fun...

[GlazierGlaze]

I wouldn't tell dealership on trade. It's their problem to do the due dilligence.

Private sale, I would tell someone.

Edit: I flash back to stock w/ tamper code removed. I also am up front with my SA.

[///M4ster Yoda]

[hakcar]

Regarding #2, intentionally re-locking the bootloader and putting a (true) stock map on the DME (prior to lease return or trade-in, for example) does not involve removal of the DME, so it's not as if it would cost several hundred dollars in labor, and could be carried out remotely.

[RACEM4TE]

Lets say i have a warranty fail and i remove every mod before claiming will they know if i had mods? Whats the big fuss tho? My dealer in abu dhabi mods the car for you (akra dps, mpe, armytrix exhaust, jb4)

[Jaymax85]

Originally Posted by hakcar

Regarding #2, intentionally re-locking the bootloader and putting a (true) stock map on the DME (prior to lease return or trade-in, for example) does not involve removal of the DME, so it's not as if it would cost several hundred dollars in labor, and could be carried out remotely.

Originally Posted by hakcar

Regarding #2, intentionally re-locking the bootloader and putting a (true) stock map on the DME (prior to lease return or trade-in, for example) does not involve removal of the DME, so it's not as if it would cost several hundred dollars in labor, and could be carried out remotely.

Can you elaborate, I asked ptf and they said best way is to remove the ecu again

[TrevorM3]

the dealer can and will see everything, if needed.


/thread

[shahano]

If you flash your car, you have to accept the consequences behind them. This will probably lower your second hand value of your car as it will not be accepted by a big portion of the crowd.
Now what you could do is put the car back to stock and then sell it. but a detailed DD by the customer and he will know of the mods. Probably could not sell it as a pre-owned BMW vehicle.

[EALm4]

As soon as you pull into the dealer's lot the car will explode

[1FastS4]

Originally Posted by hakcar

Regarding #2, intentionally re-locking the bootloader and putting a (true) stock map on the DME (prior to lease return or trade-in, for example) does not involve removal of the DME, so it's not as if it would cost several hundred dollars in labor, and could be carried out remotely.

I hope that's not a service you're gonna try and offer to people.
You do that on a flashed car and the end result is a tamper code.

[Sleeper]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

the dealer can and will see everything, if needed.


/thread

The dealer itself doesn't see anything.

[hakcar]

Originally Posted by 1FastS4

I hope that's not a service you're gonna try and offer to people.
You do that on a flashed car and the end result is a tamper code.

That's simply incorrect, since as stated elsewhere, the tamper code is a direct result of the bootloader being unlocked.

Re-locking the bootloader is as simple as re-flashing the bootloader (and, of course, re-flashing the DME with an OE map).

Also as stated elsewhere, I've done this first-hand, and a tamper code in ISTA (which I've seen before) is nowhere to be found after doing so.

I'm happy to be enlightened, though, and aim not to be argumentative, but rather to put forth first-hand information in aim to prevent the spread of false information.

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by hakcar

That's simply incorrect, since as stated elsewhere, the tamper code is a direct result of the bootloader being unlocked.

Re-locking the bootloader is as simple as re-flashing the bootloader (and, of course, re-flashing the DME with an OE map).

Also as stated elsewhere, I've done this first-hand, and a tamper code in ISTA (which I've seen before) is nowhere to be found after doing so.

I'm happy to be enlightened, though, and aim not to be argumentative, but rather to put forth first-hand information in aim to prevent the spread of false information.

This is 100% correct.

[F82K2S0]

Put you pants back on, no dealer wants to deal with you flashing them your little bits.

[DC-T]

Originally Posted by HELLOimJ

Hi all

I have ptf flash and wanted to get some feedback

1. What do u guys put the car in when u take it for service and or warranty work

2. Has anyone tried to sell the car, trade, or do a lease return with an unlocked ecu?

Car came good enough for me standard. Never tell the dealer. Tell if you're selling to someone lest we find you in a hole

[Kevin M]

Originally Posted by EALm4

As soon as you pull into the dealer's lot the car will explode

This. Happened to me too.

[chewbakam4]

Originally Posted by Kevin M

This. Happened to me too.

True story