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      11-06-2017, 01:14 PM   #1
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So the 135 gets screwed again, no recalls for PCV or heater issued

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/b...call-fire.html

"The first recall covers more than 672,000 cars. It includes several BMW 3 Series models from 2006-11 with wiring and electrical conductors in the climate control system that are vulnerable to overheating, BMW told the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration on Thursday.'


We have the same parts in our cars along with the same problem. But because we are a lower production run we aren't important?

Wiring cross,
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/par...&q=64116932682

Blower motor,
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/par...&q=64119227670

Blower motor resistor/regulator,
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/par...&q=64119265892




Must be something I'm missing?
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      11-06-2017, 01:33 PM   #2
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not sure why you feel "screwed". Obviously they're different enough where the problem isn't present on the 135i.
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      11-06-2017, 02:12 PM   #3
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Hell, I'm happy! That's one less recall for us 135i/135is guys.
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      11-06-2017, 02:36 PM   #5
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Why are we getting "screwed"? We don't have the parts that are being recalled.

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      11-06-2017, 03:56 PM   #6
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It's interesting to read the NHTSA Safety Recall Report and balance that against the behavior I experience with my car... where blasting the A/C on Max and then backing it down often results in the fan speed not decreasing for several minutes. Kind of makes me wonder.

The blower in my car sometimes squeaks and I have a replacement Valeo unit in the box on the floor in my garage. Perhaps I'll wait on that, not sure I'd want to be the last guy who worked on the thing before it caught fire (I wouldn't want to in any way be deemed responsible for that).
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We're the ones, where it's so bad that they had to recall it. Our cars could spontaneously combust! (A slight exaggeration...)

Anyway, I'd rather have it your way! I'm going to have to schedule an appointment, once the damned letter finally comes, and then actually go to the dealer, which is surrounded by some of the worst roads I could think of, in a sportily-tuned car...

I hope you don't need to have your cars recalled, just for all the hassle it brings.

Anyways, N/A for the win, unless your talking about PCV heaters...
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      11-07-2017, 12:53 PM   #8
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So the 135 is a good car after all?
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      11-07-2017, 12:59 PM   #9
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So the 135 is a good car after all?
Just this one time.
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If they are the same part number across multiple engine platforms, I would be concerned whether my car is currently included on the recall or not, if it hasthe part in question. I'd venture to guess that more models will be added in the coming months.
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So the 135 is a good car after all?
Just this one time.
Hahaha, this made me lol too hard. *thinks of all the issues to date*

Still worth it, love the unique little 1.
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      11-08-2017, 01:37 PM   #12
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Hell, I'm happy! That's one less recall for us 135i/135is guys.
lmao right, I was like oh a great another recall to add to the list...
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I will trust the engineers who built the car to make this decision over someone finding a few part numbers that match.
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      05-04-2018, 12:25 PM   #14
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We are getting screwed because it's happening to 1ers too. I'm trying to fix this issue and don't want to drive my car, risking it will set on fire. I've heard arching and there are burn marks on the panel. BMW will not cover it even though it has the same part number as the e9x.
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Not the same part = no recall
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I will trust the engineers who built the car to make this decision over someone finding a few part numbers that match.
If it's the same P/N, then it's the same part. Typically when there is a redesign, the old number is superseded by a new P/N. If the part is defective, it does not matter which engine/chassis it's installed in. There is most likely an issue.
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I will trust the engineers who built the car to make this decision over someone finding a few part numbers that match.
If it's the same P/N, then it's the same part. Typically when there is a redesign, the old number is superseded by a new P/N. If the part is defective, it does not matter which engine/chassis it's installed in. There is most likely an issue.
Not necessarily, some parts may be the same number, but because they are in a different system (say 3'er vs 1'er), they might not be risky to one of those systems...

Say a part in the 1'er were vulnerable, and could fail on rough roads; it might not fail in a 3'er because the 3'er has a longer wheelbase, which reduces the rocking motion that breaks the part on rough roads.

Am I articulating myself correctly?
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Not necessarily, some parts may be the same number, but because they are in a different system (say 3'er vs 1'er), they might not be risky to one of those systems...

Say a part in the 1'er were vulnerable, and could fail on rough roads; it might not fail in a 3'er because the 3'er has a longer wheelbase, which reduces the rocking motion that breaks the part on rough roads.

Am I articulating myself correctly?
I understand what you're saying but I don't agree, especially in this case. The complete engine assembly is the same across multiple platforms. If a part is at risk in one chassis, it should be at risk of failure in all. In the case of the heater/ac panel.blower motor wiring, if the connector is the same in multiple vehicles then they're all at risk in my opinion. The same material was used in the connector and same gauge wire is being used and subjected to the same voltage loads.

Why would increased chassis vibration affect that? If it was structural (i.e. windshield cracking that was common on the first gen of the New Mini), then I would agree with your point.

For what it's worth I worked in the service department for several years beginning in 2002. BMWNA typically identified an issue in one vehicle/engine, and it expanded to others, if affected.
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