Remote Start issue

[Hockey22]

I had the remote start put into my 2016 X5, it was working great until last month when the idrive wheel starting getting stuck so I brought it in and they replace the entire idrive controller and also preform routine maintenance. the next morning I tried to use the remote start and the hazard lights would flash but it would not start . I tried several more times that day but it did not work. I called my service rep. and after he spoke to the service manager he told me that because the entire idrive controller was replaced and they had to reset the vehicle the remote start would not work. I asked them remove the remote start unit and reset the computer and then reinstall the remote start . They told me there is no fix right now to get the remote start to work again. They have offered me a refund but that is not the point. Has anyone had this issue ?

[Julyzon]

It happened to me with my 2016 X5. Different issue but they had to update my software and after that it never worked again. They also said there is no fix for it at the moment(a couple months back), so now I just opted for the refund which I should be getting any day now. I live up here in Anchorage, Alaska so it was bothering me for a while. I just bought a new home with 2 car garage so its not too bad in the mornings now.

[NERO X]

It's been said before, but it's absurd that this company cannot get a functional remote start system.(embarrassing actually, when I tell people it's not an option) All of the plain Jane OEM's have beautifully working remote start systems and BMW can't figure it out.

[mnx5er]

+1 My friend has a F150 and gives me crap all the time about the X5 not having remote start. He even can do it from his phone.

Crazy BMW doesn't offer this.

[mermar]

I live in MN - we are shopping for a new suv for my wife and the X5 is really on an island as the only car we are considering without remote start. I simply don’t get it. I hear the40e has remote cabin warming - but I have read it rarely works??

[CeeTeeX5]

Originally Posted by mnx5er

+1 My friend has a F150 and gives me crap all the time about the X5 not having remote start. He even can do it from his phone.

Crazy BMW doesn't offer this.

I hear ya man. My 2012 Grand Cherokee had remote start from the fob and the 2014+ can be done from the app also. If Chrysler/Jeep can make it work, BMW has no excuse. A sales guy gave me some BS about BMW wanting to help the environment blah blah.

[Chadmatic]

Originally Posted by CeeTeeX5

I hear ya man. My 2012 Grand Cherokee had remote start from the fob and the 2014+ can be done from the app also. If Chrysler/Jeep can make it work, BMW has no excuse. A sales guy gave me some BS about BMW wanting to help the environment blah blah.

You forgot the other 2 blahs

[Gilly1964]

You guys are overlooking the fact that in Germany (and probably most of the EU) leaving a car idling without a driver in the car is illegal. Is it too hard to find houses with heated garage space in the USA?

[CeeTeeX5]

Originally Posted by Gilly1964

You guys are overlooking the fact that in Germany (and probably most of the EU) leaving a car idling without a driver in the car is illegal. Is it too hard to find houses with heated garage space in the USA?

How does that fact have anything to do with US spec X5? It's not just about heating, it's also about cooling. My vehicle is also driven to and parked at places other than my home.

[Chadmatic]

Originally Posted by Gilly1964

You guys are overlooking the fact that in Germany (and probably most of the EU) leaving a car idling without a driver in the car is illegal. Is it too hard to find houses with heated garage space in the USA?

Many US states and counties also have anti-idling laws, but most Americans are completely oblivious to them.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/car...ually-illegal/

Unfortunately most people don't take the big picture into consideration when idling, this image helps put things into perspective...

[Gilly1964]

Originally Posted by CeeTeeX5

How does that fact have anything to do with US spec X5? It's not just about heating, it's also about cooling. My vehicle is also driven to and parked at places other than my home.

Now, let me see, a German manufacturer designing and implementing in line with the legislative requirements of their home market (and possibly their largest markets as, I believe, most forward looking legislatures have accepted the need to reduce unnecessary carbon emissions) versus the needs of a few individuals whose local laws may well restrict it anyway but who will ignore them until they get a ticket and then try to sue BMW because they weren't given adequate protection from themselves?

[mermar]

Originally Posted by Gilly1964

You guys are overlooking the fact that in Germany (and probably most of the EU) leaving a car idling without a driver in the car is illegal. Is it too hard to find houses with heated garage space in the USA?

Last I checked Mercedes is a German car company and they offer a nice remote start via a App.

[CatalinP]

Auxiliary heating is a better option than remote start. It warms up the car faster and prevents the engine wear from cold starts.

[CeeTeeX5]

Originally Posted by Gilly1964

Now, let me see, a German manufacturer designing and implementing in line with the legislative requirements of their home market (and possibly their largest markets as, I believe, most forward looking legislatures have accepted the need to reduce unnecessary carbon emissions) versus the needs of a few individuals whose local laws may well restrict it anyway but who will ignore them until they get a ticket and then try to sue BMW because they weren't given adequate protection from themselves?

Still nope. Nice try though. BMW came out with a remote start system so clearly felt there was a need. It just happened to be garbage, requiring an extra key, not functioning well and way overpriced.

Would love to see numbers showing Germany is a larger X5 market than the US.

[CeeTeeX5]

Originally Posted by mermar

Last I checked Mercedes is a German car company and they offer a nice remote start via a App.

Exactly! Range Rover also. Not german but their EU/UK sales double that of the US.

[wearenh]

Originally Posted by CeeTeeX5

...Would love to see numbers showing Germany is a larger X5 market than the US.

Quick googling found data for Q1-Q3 (9mos) of 2017 and 2016 for USA market
and for all of Europe (sorry, not just Germany) ... references below


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Q1-Q3 (9mos) 2017 - Europe

26,731 - X5
8,090 - X6
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34,821

Q1-Q3 (9mos) 2017 - USA

34,199 - X5
4,410 - X6
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38,609

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Q1-Q3 (9mos) 2016 - Europe

28,180 - X5
9,493 - X6
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37,673

Q1-Q3 (9mos) 2016 - USA

32,818 - X5
5,124 - X6
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37,942

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

so.... while the X6 outsells in EU by almost 2X the US, the X5 and total F15/F16
market in the USA is bigger than ALL OF EUROPE COMBINED... references below:



Euro sales Data

USA Sales Data (subtract Oct from YTD Oct to get Q1-Q3



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[wearenh]

aha!.... found an even easier one ... compare sales figures EU vs USA ... choose make, model, time period:

http://carsalesbase.com/car-sales-comparison/#




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[CeeTeeX5]

Thanks Wearenh! Numbers are as I expected.

[motex]

Originally Posted by Gilly1964

You guys are overlooking the fact that in Germany (and probably most of the EU) leaving a car idling without a driver in the car is illegal. Is it too hard to find houses with heated garage space in the USA?

I wonder why they still buy BMW's if this option makes them "frustrated" or "embarrassed".....if you value the quality of your BMW by the options, buy a KIA or Hyundai, they have plenty of options....

[CeeTeeX5]

Originally Posted by motex

I wonder why they still buy BMW's if this option makes them "frustrated" or "embarrassed".....if you value the quality of your BMW by the options, buy a KIA or Hyundai, they have plenty of options....

Oh yay, the generic fanboy response.

[pits200]

Originally Posted by wearenh

aha!.... found an even easier one ... compare sales figures EU vs USA ... choose make, model, time period:

http://carsalesbase.com/car-sales-comparison/#




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Nice debating, using irrefutable facts to backup your argument, much respect.

[pits200]

Originally Posted by motex

I wonder why they still buy BMW's if this option makes them "frustrated" or "embarrassed".....if you value the quality of your BMW by the options, buy a KIA or Hyundai, they have plenty of options....

Does the large portion of the population think like this. So you pay more for a car and it's ok to expect less? This is the apple mentality where people have become conditioned to pay more for the name and not the actual product.