The beginning of the end.

carenthuziast · 01-31-2018, 08:31 PM

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...rward.html/amp

Bimmed Out · 02-01-2018, 07:41 AM

The end came in 2013.

LostPanda · 02-01-2018, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kepler

The end came in 2013.

This.

Merlin_83 · 02-01-2018, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LostPanda

This.

Agree......

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Raek · 02-01-2018, 08:22 AM

Woah. No idea the M4s had carbon fiber driveshafts...

Mr. BMW · 02-01-2018, 09:08 AM

Put a V8 back in the new M3/M4.

BMWNA, are you listening??

///M Power-Belgium · 02-01-2018, 09:19 AM

Like usual it's the BMW financial speculation , in short it's actually BS !

BimmerRookie · 02-01-2018, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. BMW

Put a V8 back in the new M3/M4.

BMWNA, are you listening??

No. They're not, they never do.

Candide13 · 02-01-2018, 10:02 AM

Actually, the end for the E90 M3 sedan came in 2011

burtonsbs5114 · 02-01-2018, 10:14 AM

11 M vehicles... as if the brand wasn't diluted enough.

DSilk · 02-01-2018, 10:18 AM

It's BS. First of all, there are minimal (if any) differences between the floor architecture of the sedan vs. the coupe, and certainly none that would interfere with the installation of an emisions related filter (which will go on the standard 340i anyway). More important is the fact that the next generation of M3/M4 are set to debut in 2019 (offering a reputed 475 bhp).

carenthuziast · 02-01-2018, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by burtonsbs5114

11 M vehicles... as if the brand wasn't diluted enough.

The guy making this decision is exAudi. Not surprised.

but, it's not just 11 M vehicles. There will also be 15 M-performance vehicles as well...meaning you'll be seeing lot more M badging that's not necessarily "fake."

roastbeef · 02-01-2018, 05:39 PM

i knew that audi guy was going to completely screw everything up.

and it is complete nonsense that they had to get rid of the carbon driveshaft because of an additional particulate filter... they simply used it as a marketing scheme when the car came out, then quietly killed it off to increase profits. i'm skeptical they needed a few millimeters of clearance in the prop tunnel for a filter. kiss my ass with that lie, bmw.

its just the end of the life cycle. the four doors go first, just like the e90 production stopped before the e92 production.

jmeek83 · 02-01-2018, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by roastbeef

i knew that audi guy was going to completely screw everything up.

and it is complete nonsense that they had to get rid of the carbon driveshaft because of an additional particulate filter... they simply used it as a marketing scheme when the car came out, then quietly killed it off to increase profits. i'm skeptical they needed a few millimeters of clearance in the prop tunnel for a filter. kiss my ass with that lie, bmw.

Hahaha spot on.

DreamTime · 02-01-2018, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Raek

Woah. No idea the M4s had carbon fiber driveshafts...

Yeah, I had no idea too. That kind of blew my mind honestly, pretty cool...

Quote:

Originally Posted by roastbeef

i knew that audi guy was going to completely screw everything up.

Lmao

kyrix1st · 02-02-2018, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by roastbeef

i knew that audi guy was going to completely screw everything up.

and it is complete nonsense that they had to get rid of the carbon driveshaft because of an additional particulate filter... they simply used it as a marketing scheme when the car came out, then quietly killed it off to increase profits. i'm skeptical they needed a few millimeters of clearance in the prop tunnel for a filter. kiss my ass with that lie, bmw.

its just the end of the life cycle. the four doors go first, just like the e90 production stopped before the e92 production.

Albert Biermann was the guy who built E36~F82 (participated in E30). Real enthusiast he is. Now that he is gone, BMW is likely putting 8 speed ZFat in all future M cars that can hardly rev to 7,000 rpm over DCT rated at 9,000 rpm. Coincidence much? lol

Dr. Dre · 02-03-2018, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kyrix1st

Albert Biermann was the guy who built E36~F82 (participated in E30). Real enthusiast he is. Now that he is gone, BMW is likely putting 8 speed ZFat in all future M cars that can hardly rev to 7,000 rpm over DCT rated at 9,000 rpm. Coincidence much? lol

Awesome, Biermann now works for my company. Kia Motors.

dmk08 · 02-03-2018, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Raek

Woah. No idea the M4s had carbon fiber driveshafts...

Had. BMW is now putting steel shafts in them.

Raek · 02-03-2018, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dmk08

Had. BMW is now putting steel shafts in them.

I said had.

IB M · 02-03-2018, 10:54 PM

Yeah sadness at the end of the F80. Even sad to see the DCT fade away. DCT and 6MT made for two nice choices. 6MT in the weekend car and DCT in the daily.

carenthuziast · 02-05-2018, 04:27 PM

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/amp...missions-test/

TanzaniteBlue · 02-05-2018, 11:39 PM

The carbon fiber driveshaft was supposedly killed off back in November....kinda glad I got my 9/17 build when I did. I love the DCT and it'll be a shame if the next car doesn't get it. As good as the ZF8 is....it's just not as good as a DCT, E9X or F8X.

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