Why 3-4 Months for Custom Wheels?

[PshhhhhMW]

So I have some wheels on order and like all the wheels I've ordered in the past, it takes 3-4 months for delivery.

Why does it take that long and why, in the 16 years since I've ordered my first set, it still takes the same amount of time? I can't imagine they have a "we dont make it until you order it" approach. I'm sure they have a few barrels and faces ready for orders that come in.

Anyone in the industry care to take us behind the scenes?

Thanks for reading my rant. Just wish I got my wheels for Christmas.

[GOLFFRR]

what brand? usually I have waited a month on avg. 3-4 months! dang thats a long time.

[Ferg]

Waited three months for my set! Patience is a virtue.

[PshhhhhMW]

Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

what brand? usually I have waited a month on avg. 3-4 months! dang thats a long time.

This set is Work. In the past, IForged, BBS, DPE, etc..

[ntg44]

What bothers me more is that most places I've worked with collect payment up front. Paying the full balance on a CC statement for something that is months away really bugs me. Just seems sketchy when most reputable vendors in pretty much any other industry charge you when product ships. Once they have your money, they're really in no hurry.

[HRE_Wheels]

Originally Posted by PshhhhhMW

So I have some wheels on order and like all the wheels I've ordered in the past, it takes 3-4 months for delivery.

Why does it take that long and why, in the 16 years since I've ordered my first set, it still takes the same amount of time? I can't imagine they have a "we dont make it until you order it" approach. I'm sure they have a few barrels and faces ready for orders that come in.

Anyone in the industry care to take us behind the scenes?

Thanks for reading my rant. Just wish I got my wheels for Christmas.

HRE Monoblok lead time is 4 weeks, and 3-piece is about 6 weeks. We manufacture and ship out of our San Diego, California location so if you need something quicker next time let me know

Just noticed you're in SFV. If you're ever in the San Diego area, feel free to stop by and I'd be glad to give you a private tour so you can see what we're all about.

[JoshFND]

I had work wheels a few times.. my sets are always built overseas, they wait for the shipment container to become full, then ship at that time.. had a set within 1.5 months, one set was 5 months lol

[PshhhhhMW]

Originally Posted by JoshFND

I had work wheels a few times.. my sets are always built overseas, they wait for the shipment container to become full, then ship at that time.. had a set within 1.5 months, one set was 5 months lol

That explains it! Hopefully they had a lot of orders come in for the holidays..

[SnailBums]

Originally Posted by JoshFND

I had work wheels a few times.. my sets are always built overseas, they wait for the shipment container to become full, then ship at that time.. had a set within 1.5 months, one set was 5 months lol

Yes, this is correct. When you order Works, Volks, ect they will wait until the have a full order to send them all at once. I waited 7 months for a set of Enkeis because no one was ordering the same size as me.

Mike

[maniz]

Originally Posted by HRE_Wheels

HRE Monoblok lead time is 4 weeks, and 3-piece is about 6 weeks. We manufacture and ship out of our San Diego, California location so if you need something quicker next time let me know

Just noticed you're in SFV. If you're ever in the San Diego area, feel free to stop by and I'd be glad to give you a private tour so you can see what we're all about.

I had ordered a set of your "in stock at factory" wheels from a reputable SoCal shop that is also a forum member here. I paid them and they paid you guys the same day. 10 days later, there was no word on shipment so I got fed-up and asked them to cancel. HRE told them there will be a 10% restocking fee anyway (though nothing had ever shipped nor was being returned). I had to raise hell and get their owner involved to eventually get 100% refund. I ordered another company's fully-forged wheels from the same shop instead and have been very happy.

[HRE_Wheels]

Originally Posted by maniz

I had ordered a set of your "in stock at factory" wheels from a reputable SoCal shop that is also a forum member here. I paid them and they paid you guys the same day. 10 days later, there was no word on shipment so I got fed-up and asked them to cancel. HRE told them there will be a 10% restocking fee anyway (though nothing had ever shipped nor was being returned). I had to raise hell and get their owner involved to eventually get 100% refund. I ordered another company's fully-forged wheels from the same shop instead and have been very happy.

If it was during our Holiday sale I apologize, we had an insane amount of orders all while our inventory numbers weren't keeping up with the quantity we were shipping so some orders were taken without notice of them actually being sold out at the time.

I apologize for what happened, and clearly whomever told you there would be a restocking fee didn't truly listen to you so I apologize for that. I would have offered a full refund on the spot without even asking management about it. Again, our apologizes for the inconvenience we have caused.

[Remonster]

Originally Posted by ntgarage44

What bothers me more is that most places I've worked with collect payment up front. Paying the full balance on a CC statement for something that is months away really bugs me. Just seems sketchy when most reputable vendors in pretty much any other industry charge you when product ships. Once they have your money, they're really in no hurry.

The payment up front is because you're ordering custom wheels and a lot of times, that custom set is going to be a pain for them to find another buyer for if you change your mind on the order so nobody wants to deal with it. You're sure you want this set of wheels? With these exact options you picked that is only going to fit a few certain models of cars perfectly? Cool, pay for it and they will make it for you. People on this forum are probably not the types to order a set of custom wheels and then flake out on the order but there are a ton of people out there like that.

To answer the OP, most of the wait time is getting in line to get your wheels produced behind existing orders. You can usually pay extra to jump to the head of the line if you need or want your wheels in a hurry.

[sdshah]

Originally Posted by PshhhhhMW

This set is Work. In the past, IForged, BBS, DPE, etc..

Lmao gonna probably be 7 other names with 0 support in 3 months. DPE fucked me over on my E92 and had to file a lawsuit.

It's HRE or BBS if you are spending more than 4K.

[sdshah]

Originally Posted by Remonster

The payment up front is because you're ordering custom wheels and a lot of times, that custom set is going to be a pain for them to find another buyer for if you change your mind on the order so nobody wants to deal with it. You're sure you want this set of wheels? With these exact options you picked that is only going to fit a few certain models of cars perfectly? Cool, pay for it and they will make it for you. People on this forum are probably not the types to order a set of custom wheels and then flake out on the order but there are a ton of people out there like that.

To answer the OP, most of the wait time is getting in line to get your wheels produced behind existing orders. You can usually pay extra to jump to the head of the line if you need or want your wheels in a hurry.

And also these wheel companies and especially DPE doesn't have cash flow to produce wheels without full cost. They probably using that money to be supplement more than one order.

[PshhhhhMW]

Originally Posted by sdshah

Lmao gonna probably be 7 other names with 0 support in 3 months. DPE fucked me over on my E92 and had to file a lawsuit.

It's HRE or BBS if you are spending more than 4K.

Lol had the same type of issues for my E90

[THEROK]

Forgeline for three-piece wheels for me. The end.

[Zero_Cool]

What’s the consensus on Brixton forged? Sorry OP

[sdshah]

Originally Posted by Zero_Cool

What's the consensus on Brixton forged? Sorry OP

Over priced for no brand name. They should be 2k cheaper if they want to enter the market and work their way up.

[FriedPiston]

It all depends on volume pricing and logistics. Some forged wheel companies only need 3-4 weeks lead time for custom specs, because they were smart enough to secure and negotiate a special deal with the manufacturer, which is typically located somewhere in Taiwan nowadays. This strategy is great for consumers, because this leaves no room for Tomfoolery with their hard earned money.

For reference, the average invoice price for a custom set of 19" forged wheels is about $1200 per set or $300/unit -- and for the record, this is not a made up figure. Why is this important to know? Well, for a new company like Titan7, that only offers specific sizes, they are able to further lower their manufacturing costs by ordering the same wheel sizes in volume. Therefore, they're able to sell their wheels at a much lower price point than their competitors, which helps a lot with brand recognition during the introductory stage.

So take that logic and apply it to other forged wheel companies like 305 Forged, Klassen, Velos, VS Forged, and the list goes on. Anytime you're spending more than $2,000 for a set of Made in Taiwan/China forged wheels, really think about how much wheel (structural design, load certification, quality) you're getting for what you're paying.

[carlos@velosdesignwerks]

Originally Posted by nars3000

It all depends on volume pricing and logistics. Some forged wheel companies only need 3-4 weeks lead time for custom specs, because they were smart enough to secure and negotiate a special deal with the manufacturer, which is typically located somewhere in Taiwan nowadays. This strategy is great for consumers, because this leaves no room for Tomfoolery with their hard earned money.

For reference, the average invoice price for a custom set of 19" forged wheels is about $1200 per set or $300/unit -- and for the record, this is not a made up figure. Why is this important to know? Well, for a new company like Titan7, that only offers specific sizes, they are able to further lower their manufacturing costs by ordering the same wheel sizes in volume. Therefore, they're able to sell their wheels at a much lower price point than their competitors, which helps a lot with brand recognition during the introductory stage.

So take that logic and apply it to other forged wheel companies like 305 Forged, Klassen, Velos, VS Forged, and the list goes on. Anytime you're spending more than $2,000 for a set of Made in Taiwan/China forged wheels, really think about how much wheel (structural design, load certification, quality) you're getting for what you're paying.

Just wanted to chime in and say our wheels are made in the US, not China or Taiwan. Happy New Years as well everyone!

[THEROK]

Originally Posted by stephen@velosdesignwerks

Just wanted to chime in and say our wheels are made in the US, not China or Taiwan. Happy New Years as well everyone!

Just curious, but from whom or where do you source your forged aluminum blocks?

[carlos@velosdesignwerks]

Originally Posted by THEROK

Just curious, but from whom or where do you source your forged aluminum blocks?

All of our forgings are sourced from the US.