Consensus on short shifter?

[adc]

Howdy, maybe because I’m spending too much time around the house, or maybe because my son’s new E46 has a UUC installed, I’m considering a short shifter.

Would you consider it a good idea on the F80/82?


For ex. On the E46, the UUC is too notchy for my taste, and it doesn’t speed up the shifting, quite the opposite. On my F80, I’ve never had any problems shifting fast on track, but at the same time wouldn’t mind a 25-30% reduction in shift travel, and perhaps enhanced feel.

I’ve heard only good things about the Autosolutions SSK, whereas UUC and Rogue have always had a bit of mixed reviews...

Please talk me into or out of this idea. Your comments are appreciated, as always.

[SYT_Shadow]

It's a fantastic idea, although I'd only get the AutoSolutions kit myself.

For me it's most a matter of feel and precision. I also suggest the UCP for the pedal.

[adc]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

It's a fantastic idea, although I'd only get the AutoSolutions kit myself.

For me it's most a matter of feel and precision. I also suggest the UCP for the pedal.

After driving my son’s E46 with UUC some more, I can say it definitely helps with the feel & definition of the shifts, but IMO in no way does it speed up the shifting, end to end. And I can imagine that if you try to rush it, a money shift is a possibility.

From that perspective, the OEM F80 shifter is very good, meaning there are very small chances for a missed shift. Would you say the Autosolutions kit increases the chances of a money shift?

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by adc

After driving my son’s E46 with UUC some more, I can say it definitely helps with the feel & definition of the shifts, but IMO in no way does it speed up the shifting, end to end. And I can imagine that if you try to rush it, a money shift is a possibility.

From that perspective, the OEM F80 shifter is very good, meaning there are very small chances for a missed shift. Would you say the Autosolutions kit increases the chances of a money shift?

I don't think so at all. I also only get a 10% reduction so basically I benefit from the increased feel and precision.

The only shifter i've ever money-shifted in is a CAE shifter. Two different E36s. Fortunately I wasn't shifting at redline so it wasn't an actual money shift

Back in my E46M I had a 30% reduction kit and used the Jaffster knob... that was such a perfect combo. I have a lot of experience in CAE shifter cars and still prefer that.

[Spun Crankhub]

Love the Autosolutions ssk on my F82. Also added the Turner rear shift carrier bushing. Shifts noticeably shorter and more precise.

[Pic18]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

I don't think so at all. I also only get a 10% reduction so basically I benefit from the increased feel and precision.

The only shifter i've ever money-shifted in is a CAE shifter. Two different E36s. Fortunately I wasn't shifting at redline so it wasn't an actual money shift

Back in my E46M I had a 30% reduction kit and used the Jaffster knob... that was such a perfect combo. I have a lot of experience in CAE shifter cars and still prefer that.

Interesting comment on the CAE, I thought one of the selling arguments for that shifter was reducing or eliminating the possibility of a money shift as it was much more precise with no slop. What gear shift did you run into an issue with the CAE?

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by Pic18

Interesting comment on the CAE, I thought one of the selling arguments for that shifter was reducing or eliminating the possibility of a money shift as it was much more precise with no slop. What gear shift did you run into an issue with the CAE?

Tell me about it! That's why i put it on the AER cars!

Both times it was 5th which turned into 3rd, upshifting from 4th.

Some would say I should learn how to shift, but i've been driving stick for my whole life, tracking stick for years and it's happened twice in two different cars with the same shifter: CAE.
Obviously you can't compare the epicness of the CAE giant ass shifter to an AS which looks almost stock

[Pic18]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

Tell me about it! That's why i put it on the AER cars!

Both times it was 5th which turned into 3rd, upshifting from 4th.

Some would say I should learn how to shift, but i've been driving stick for my whole life, tracking stick for years and it's happened twice in two different cars with the same shifter: CAE.
Obviously you can't compare the epicness of the CAE giant ass shifter to an AS which looks almost stock

That was what I figured. Just had one installed on my SpecE46 but haven’t tried it out yet but that was the shift (4-5) I was slightly worried about. Will have to make sure I am extra careful until I get used to the shifter.

[adc]

Originally Posted by Spun Crankhub

Love the Autosolutions ssk on my F82. Also added the Turner rear shift carrier bushing. Shifts noticeably shorter and more precise.

I just bought the Turner bushing, please tell me what you think it added to the experience. I wanted to install it on the OEM shifter - foolish?

[Spun Crankhub]

Originally Posted by adc

I just bought the Turner bushing, please tell me what you think it added to the experience. I wanted to install it on the OEM shifter - foolish?

Tough to say because I installed at the time that I did SSK, but I love the whole experience. I did get some new nvh when I accelerate in the wrong gear, for example if I should be accelerating aggressively in 3rd, but am in 4th or 5th the car will give some feedback from the middle/back of the car.

Definitely not foolish, might even make stock shifter seem less sloppy. Considering it is such an easy install why not give it a shot? I will be curious to hear what you think.