Issues after E-Sys Flash. RDC

simonjbean · 09-04-2022, 04:37 AM

Hi All,

I recently ran an update using e-sys on my F82 M4 Competition. 17 - LCI

The Previous I-Step version was 20-11-540 and I updated to 22-07-530 using E-Sys 3.40.1. (PSdZData_SDP_Full_v.4.36.41)

5 ECU's were updated in the flash.

I think they were: (had to go looking back through logs)
ACSM
ATM
HU_NBT2
KAFAS2
ZBE4

All was successful with no errors.

The issues I now have is that RDC, STML and STMR are all showing red in ISTA. (4.32.15).

The codes are S0296, S0311 and S0312.

If I read SVT (VCM) (in E-sys) the ECU's show up but blue. I cant talk to them (cant read coding etc).

If I read SVT (ECU) then they dont show up (confirming they are not communicating?).

I am sure previously they were all green in ISTA previously.

My headlights are working (they come on and off anyway!) and the front indicators work. The TPMS is working (After resetting the pressures) and i can read them fine on the Idrive?

This seems to indicate the ECU's may be working?

I have attached a bunch of pictures showing the above. Appreciate any assistance.

Thankyou.

kubax86 · 09-05-2022, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simonjbean

Hi All,

I recently ran an update using e-sys on my F82 M4 Competition. 17 - LCI

The Previous I-Step version was 20-11-540 and I updated to 22-07-530 using E-Sys 3.40.1. (PSdZData_SDP_Full_v.4.36.41)

5 ECU's were updated in the flash.

I think they were: (had to go looking back through logs)
ACSM
ATM
HU_NBT2
KAFAS2
ZBE4

All was successful with no errors.

The issues I now have is that RDC, STML and STMR are all showing red in ISTA. (4.32.15).

The codes are S0296, S0311 and S0312.

If I read SVT (VCM) (in E-sys) the ECU's show up but blue. I cant talk to them (cant read coding etc).

If I read SVT (ECU) then they dont show up (confirming they are not communicating?).

I am sure previously they were all green in ISTA previously.

My headlights are working (they come on and off anyway!) and the front indicators work. The TPMS is working (After resetting the pressures) and i can read them fine on the Idrive?

This seems to indicate the ECU's may be working?

I have attached a bunch of pictures showing the above. Appreciate any assistance.

Thankyou.

VCM and MSM need updating - wrongly done calculation / retrofit

simonjbean · 09-05-2022, 02:14 AM

Hi Kubax86,

Sorry could you elaborate a bit more please?

blueM4 · 12-10-2023, 06:28 PM

hello (from bavaria), (sorry for bad english)

need really help, since one week I try to solve this problem ...

in ISTA+ (with data 4.36.12) I've also STML and STMR in red

in my case, I've retrofitted my M4 (9/16) from preLCI LED AHL to LCI LED AHL
(SA 552 remains, because are same LED AHL, before preLCI, now LCI)

with E-Sys (psdz 3/2022):
I've, injected CAFD to FLE, then VO coded both FLE in the headlights.
once only FEM VO coded, another case also ICM, KAFAS, VDC (REM) VO-coded

I was not sure which "Zeitkriterium" 0317 / 1117 / 0318 .... the last is a good
choice, I think .... do anyone know which is the right one?
(should Model no. also changed from 3R91 to 4Y91 ??)

_____

headlight do work ... thats not the problem.
(only the turn idicator has the problem "rastend" and "nicht rastend")

_____

but the issue is that in ISTA+ there are STML and STMR in red, the reason
is that ISTA+ wants the preLCI ECUs back
... preLCI had two ECUs: STML STMR (TMR) and FLEL FLER (LHM) ... both FLE are
green, but ISTA wants
the preLCI FLE-ECU with other sparepartnr.

.... LCI has one ECU --- FLE with new spare part nr.

....... I can do what I want .... when original 2016 FA is set back, then ISTA
make (when reading error codes) something like a "SOLL-Berechnung" and
wants the old preLCI headlights back
... although ECUs are VO-coded, and SVTist is ok in VCM/MSM

Can anyone support me, where is the point in e-Sys work, that I didn't consider

TheNine90 · 12-13-2023, 02:33 AM

If you coded correctly then make sure you fix the svt in vcm. When you read svt from VCM which FLE appear?

blueM4 · 12-13-2023, 04:30 PM

Thank you TheNine90, Iam very happy to get a reply!

I am not sure, what do you mean with "fix the SVT in VCM", when you mean that the SVT is stored, then yes,
when I changed "Zeitkriterium", then I calculated FP, and wrote FA to car (would not be necessary) and in E-Sys
Settings "update VCM after TAL calc" and "update MSM after TAL calc" are checked.

When I read SVT-actual then the right one (new) FLE appear.

When "Zeitkriterium Year 2017 or 2918" ist active, and SVT target is generated, then the new FLE stay (29 Ecus blue/29 Ecus red)

When original "Zeitkriterium Year 2016" ist active, and SVT target is generated, then the FLE are complete in blue ..... and ...... two new Ecus appear TMS und LHM, both complete in red (29 Ecus blue/31 Ecus red)

(E-sys also (like ISTA+) wants to deinstall new FLE (from LCI) and install TMS und LHM (from preLCI)

blueM4 · 12-13-2023, 04:36 PM

2918 = 2018

Kubax86 wrote:
VCM and MSM need updating - wrongly done calculation / retrofit

"wrongly done calculation" ..... what could be done wrong? how is calculated the right way??

TheNine90 · 12-13-2023, 09:58 PM

The vcm is sometimes used to check expected modules in the vehicle. So if it has pre LCI fle ista will look for it.
The differences between the Zeitkriterium is what allows the selection of either pre LCI or LCI fle.
Using VCM and MSM option for retrofit is not recommended. You have to write correct svt to vcm manually

blueM4 · 12-16-2023, 12:35 AM

what I ve done now, is that the SVT target corresponds to the SVT actual (the "correct" FLEs are also
in the SVT target.) , saved SVT to VCM.

But even then, ISTA recognizes this and wants the old ECUs. It looks,
as if ISTA makes a target calculation.
Only if I change the FA to "after 2/2017", e.g. 11/17, then everything is displayed correctly in ISTA.

09-04-2022, 04:37 AM	#1
simonjbean Registered 0 Rep 2 Posts Drives: BMW F82 M4 Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	Issues after E-Sys Flash. RDC - STML and STMR Hi All, I recently ran an update using e-sys on my F82 M4 Competition. 17 - LCI The Previous I-Step version was 20-11-540 and I updated to 22-07-530 using E-Sys 3.40.1. (PSdZData_SDP_Full_v.4.36.41) 5 ECU's were updated in the flash. I think they were: (had to go looking back through logs) ACSM ATM HU_NBT2 KAFAS2 ZBE4 All was successful with no errors. The issues I now have is that RDC, STML and STMR are all showing red in ISTA. (4.32.15). The codes are S0296, S0311 and S0312. If I read SVT (VCM) (in E-sys) the ECU's show up but blue. I cant talk to them (cant read coding etc). If I read SVT (ECU) then they dont show up (confirming they are not communicating?). I am sure previously they were all green in ISTA previously. My headlights are working (they come on and off anyway!) and the front indicators work. The TPMS is working (After resetting the pressures) and i can read them fine on the Idrive? This seems to indicate the ECU's may be working? I have attached a bunch of pictures showing the above. Appreciate any assistance. Thankyou. Attached Images
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blueM4 New Member 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: M4 Coupe Competition F82 Join Date: Nov 2023 Location: Bavaria iTrader: (0)	Need help ... also STML and STMR in red (E-Sys coding issue) hello (from bavaria), (sorry for bad english) need really help, since one week I try to solve this problem ... in ISTA+ (with data 4.36.12) I've also STML and STMR in red in my case, I've retrofitted my M4 (9/16) from preLCI LED AHL to LCI LED AHL (SA 552 remains, because are same LED AHL, before preLCI, now LCI) with E-Sys (psdz 3/2022): I've, injected CAFD to FLE, then VO coded both FLE in the headlights. once only FEM VO coded, another case also ICM, KAFAS, VDC (REM) VO-coded I was not sure which "Zeitkriterium" 0317 / 1117 / 0318 .... the last is a good choice, I think .... do anyone know which is the right one? (should Model no. also changed from 3R91 to 4Y91 ??) _____ headlight do work ... thats not the problem. (only the turn idicator has the problem "rastend" and "nicht rastend") _____ but the issue is that in ISTA+ there are STML and STMR in red, the reason is that ISTA+ wants the preLCI ECUs back ... preLCI had two ECUs: STML STMR (TMR) and FLEL FLER (LHM) ... both FLE are green, but ISTA wants the preLCI FLE-ECU with other sparepartnr. .... LCI has one ECU --- FLE with new spare part nr. ....... I can do what I want .... when original 2016 FA is set back, then ISTA make (when reading error codes) something like a "SOLL-Berechnung" and wants the old preLCI headlights back ... although ECUs are VO-coded, and SVTist is ok in VCM/MSM Can anyone support me, where is the point in e-Sys work, that I didn't consider
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TheNine90 Banned 578 Rep 2,047 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Workshop iTrader: (0)	If you coded correctly then make sure you fix the svt in vcm. When you read svt from VCM which FLE appear?
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blueM4 New Member 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: M4 Coupe Competition F82 Join Date: Nov 2023 Location: Bavaria iTrader: (0)	Thank you TheNine90, Iam very happy to get a reply! I am not sure, what do you mean with "fix the SVT in VCM", when you mean that the SVT is stored, then yes, when I changed "Zeitkriterium", then I calculated FP, and wrote FA to car (would not be necessary) and in E-Sys Settings "update VCM after TAL calc" and "update MSM after TAL calc" are checked. When I read SVT-actual then the right one (new) FLE appear. When "Zeitkriterium Year 2017 or 2918" ist active, and SVT target is generated, then the new FLE stay (29 Ecus blue/29 Ecus red) When original "Zeitkriterium Year 2016" ist active, and SVT target is generated, then the FLE are complete in blue ..... and ...... two new Ecus appear TMS und LHM, both complete in red (29 Ecus blue/31 Ecus red) (E-sys also (like ISTA+) wants to deinstall new FLE (from LCI) and install TMS und LHM (from preLCI)
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blueM4 New Member 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: M4 Coupe Competition F82 Join Date: Nov 2023 Location: Bavaria iTrader: (0)	2918 = 2018 Kubax86 wrote: VCM and MSM need updating - wrongly done calculation / retrofit "wrongly done calculation" ..... what could be done wrong? how is calculated the right way??
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TheNine90 Banned 578 Rep 2,047 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Workshop iTrader: (0)	The vcm is sometimes used to check expected modules in the vehicle. So if it has pre LCI fle ista will look for it. The differences between the Zeitkriterium is what allows the selection of either pre LCI or LCI fle. Using VCM and MSM option for retrofit is not recommended. You have to write correct svt to vcm manually
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blueM4 New Member 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: M4 Coupe Competition F82 Join Date: Nov 2023 Location: Bavaria iTrader: (0)	what I ve done now, is that the SVT target corresponds to the SVT actual (the "correct" FLEs are also in the SVT target.) , saved SVT to VCM. But even then, ISTA recognizes this and wants the old ECUs. It looks, as if ISTA makes a target calculation. Only if I change the FA to "after 2/2017", e.g. 11/17, then everything is displayed correctly in ISTA.
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