5L V8 1 Series

DTNJNQ · 05-16-2008, 06:13 AM

Not sure if this has been posted before.

Found this article and video of a 1 Series with a 5L V8

http://www.worldcarfans.com/7050603....--hartge-h1-50

MMMMM3 · 05-16-2008, 06:17 AM

Only watched a bit of the video. Looks hard to control. The traction control will have to do a lot of work to keep it on the road.

Ragenikon · 05-16-2008, 06:25 AM

I'd have to agree...the car looks like it's about to work its way off the road and i'm not sure if it's the camera guy shaking so much but it looks like the guy driving is having a hard time controlling the car around elevation changes and turns....

It's quite a lot of HP to manage! Cool though

NY SLC 93 · 05-16-2008, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragenikon

I'd have to agree...the car looks like it's about to work its way off the road and i'm not sure if it's the camera guy shaking so much but it looks like the guy driving is having a hard time controlling the car around elevation changes and turns....

It's quite a lot of HP to manage! Cool though

That's what I'm saying too.

I'd take this anyday of the week over that:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3554680

It's still a work in progress...

jbenington86 · 05-16-2008, 07:20 AM

i just need to look eactly like a 135i talk about a sleeper

rcracer_tx · 05-16-2008, 07:21 AM

throwing a v8 has to mess with the balance of the car too much. why not build up an inline 6?

jbenington86 · 05-16-2008, 07:32 AM

come a sell a v8 mustang over here and you see why they put a v8 in it...as far as i can tell germans love the old style american muscle car with large engines

ScottyGams · 05-16-2008, 07:42 AM

maybe the aftermarket germans do... but BMW is all about balance. BMW used better handling to outsell the muscle cars in the first place!

jbenington86 · 05-16-2008, 08:04 AM

well the smallest engine they have now is a v6 highest v12 so id say v8 is in the middle or pretty close

Carlos · 05-16-2008, 08:05 AM

Exactly It is not just the engine and its capacity, but is all about the balance of the car as a whole.

Crowley · 05-16-2008, 08:09 AM

There are some pretty light V8s out there .. I'd love to see this happen ..

Crowley

jbenington86 · 05-16-2008, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jbenington86

come a sell a v8 mustang over here and you see why they put a v8 in it...as far as i can tell germans love the old style american muscle car with large engines

i just made a statment...im not agreeing with it just stating the facts....... it even made in onto german tv where 2 guys chose 2 different cars one small ugly one with a 4 banger could of even been a 3 wasnt paying alot of attention.... and some guy that had a cobra.... it was a competition to see who could get the most chick.... and hot german women love big engines (take that how you want to because i know everyones mind is in the gutter)

BMWeber · 05-16-2008, 08:13 AM

the M3 V8 is lighter than our 6. that would be the ultimate conversion.

Numb3rs · 05-16-2008, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MMMMM3

Only watched a bit of the video. Looks hard to control. The traction control will have to do a lot of work to keep it on the road.

??

My friend, they were showing you how powerful that car was and how well it was able to be controlled...! How did you miss that...?

stefan · 05-16-2008, 12:22 PM

That car is ridiculous. From both a technical and style perspective.

nyknicks11 · 05-16-2008, 11:01 PM

why not put a 4-rotor rotary engine in it

now that would shave off a good amount of weight for the 1

Kris · 05-17-2008, 01:01 AM

I too think it looks stupid, ugly wheels and ugly styling... And it still does 0 to 100 ni 4.6? All that money for being a tad quicker than our 135i? pfft

ichiban · 05-17-2008, 04:22 AM

I'm not sure but to me the car looks very stable. When it was tossed into corners, the drift was controlled and composed. But i'm sure it is very driver invovled. So in the end if you know the car, it will be a very fun car to drive.

Robert · 05-17-2008, 05:02 AM

If nissan can crank some much power out of a 6 cylinder, I dont see why hartge cant

DTNJNQ · 05-17-2008, 06:52 PM

Can't be too much of a bad handler as it is faster than the previous M3 around EVO magazine's test track.

Guibo · 05-17-2008, 10:10 PM

Here's the Evo review. Seems pretty benign even without traction control.

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc..._h1_v8_50.html

Not much faster than a 135i to 60 mph, but by 100 mph, the gap stretches to just over a second.

crzy4135i · 05-17-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWeber

the M3 V8 is lighter than our 6. that would be the ultimate conversion.

You've got that right!

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MMMMM3 First Lieutenant 7 Rep 340 Posts Drives: 2011 Jerez Black e90 M3 DCT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	Only watched a bit of the video. Looks hard to control. The traction control will have to do a lot of work to keep it on the road.
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Ragenikon Private 4 Rep 93 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	I'd have to agree...the car looks like it's about to work its way off the road and i'm not sure if it's the camera guy shaking so much but it looks like the guy driving is having a hard time controlling the car around elevation changes and turns.... It's quite a lot of HP to manage! Cool though __________________ - 135is - Sedona Red Aluminum Trim Black Boston Leather Cold Weather Pkg Sports Pkg Premium Stereo PCD June 3rd! "The steering, the feel, the way you can adjust your line through the bend with the throttle. There is no other car made today in this sector of the market that gets even close. If you love driving, this is up there in a class of One." - Jeremy Clarkson -
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rcracer_tx Banned 55 Rep 2,013 Posts Drives: BSM 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	throwing a v8 has to mess with the balance of the car too much. why not build up an inline 6?
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ScottyGams Uber-Lee7 Member 47 Rep 1,440 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (2)	maybe the aftermarket germans do... but BMW is all about balance. BMW used better handling to outsell the muscle cars in the first place!
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jbenington86 Major 58 Rep 1,201 Posts Drives: 2015 M235i, 2017 Tundra Join Date: May 2008 Location: TX iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 M235i [0.00] 2008 128i [0.00]	well the smallest engine they have now is a v6 highest v12 so id say v8 is in the middle or pretty close
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Carlos Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 283 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	Exactly It is not just the engine and its capacity, but is all about the balance of the car as a whole.
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Crowley Major 54 Rep 1,015 Posts Drives: Join Date: Oct 2007 iTrader: (0)	There are some pretty light V8s out there .. I'd love to see this happen .. Crowley __________________ The last words on the powerplant should go to a clearly overwhelmed Hormazd Sorabjee, editor and publisher of Autocar India: “There is something simply magical about BMW’s in-line six. It has a creamy smoothness that makes velvet feel like sandpaper.”
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BMWeber Major 36 Rep 1,329 Posts Drives: 08 135i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Amesbury, MA iTrader: (5)	the M3 V8 is lighter than our 6. that would be the ultimate conversion.
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nyknicks11 New Member 0 Rep 23 Posts Drives: Join Date: May 2008 iTrader: (0)	why not put a 4-rotor rotary engine in it now that would shave off a good amount of weight for the 1
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Kris Colonel 123 Rep 2,295 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USOFA iTrader: (0)	I too think it looks stupid, ugly wheels and ugly styling... And it still does 0 to 100 ni 4.6? All that money for being a tad quicker than our 135i? pfft
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ichiban Colonel 94 Rep 2,012 Posts Drives: 08 135i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (2)	I'm not sure but to me the car looks very stable. When it was tossed into corners, the drift was controlled and composed. But i'm sure it is very driver invovled. So in the end if you know the car, it will be a very fun car to drive.
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Guibo Second Lieutenant 4 Rep 280 Posts Drives: Join Date: Apr 2008 iTrader: (0)	Here's the Evo review. Seems pretty benign even without traction control. http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc..._h1_v8_50.html Not much faster than a 135i to 60 mph, but by 100 mph, the gap stretches to just over a second.
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