Vishnu tuned warranty issue

B-M-W · 01-22-2009, 03:03 PM

Anyone having bickering from BMW for warranty work with a piggy on your 135i's back? lol

just wondering if they detect the tune easy or not if you obviously take it out before bringing her into the shop

Intak exhaust any of these things causing issues for warranty?

0002s · 01-22-2009, 03:10 PM

TAKE IT OUT before service. (don't say you weren't warned...

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B-M-W · 01-22-2009, 03:17 PM

anyone done this yet and slip it by them. how hard and long is the deinstall and reinstall time?

thanks again guys

My135 · 01-22-2009, 03:22 PM

If I were you, I would remove it before any major engine related warranty repair service. Not need to worry about oil change, brake or warp rotor...etc. If you installed the piggy back ECU yourself, it should not take more than 30 minutes next time removing it.

B-M-W · 01-22-2009, 03:25 PM

thanks I haven't done anything yet, just inquiring

keep it coming though folks

TunedM2C · 01-22-2009, 03:31 PM

The only mods you should keep on the car when taking it in for service are the fuzzy dice. All else should be removed.

B-M-W · 01-22-2009, 03:38 PM

any service? ie oil change

TunedM2C · 01-22-2009, 03:41 PM

If you like warranties, then yes.

Evolved · 01-22-2009, 05:52 PM

Can't they check the boost levels of the car and see that it's above the stock numbers? I would assume the ecu records things like that.

B-M-W · 01-22-2009, 10:21 PM

good question.. Vishnu did assure me it is near invisible if you do a good removal job of the piggy back

JohnL135I · 01-22-2009, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evolved

Can't they check the boost levels of the car and see that it's above the stock numbers? I would assume the ecu records things like that.

Depends on the version of the ECU. Also, depends on what tune your running and what map.

For any service related issues with the car, I would recommend the removal of any mods....unless your good friends with the service advisor and his crew.

fmxomar · 01-23-2009, 12:38 AM

bmw wants to rape you out of their warranty, im pretty sure its standarad for them now to check the ecu and look for tunes even just going in for an oil change

B-M-W · 01-23-2009, 10:42 AM

wow, looks like im going handling first lmao... thanks guys'

dyong · 01-23-2009, 11:24 AM

If you take out the piggy back or O2 sim before going in for service, won't the engine throw in a CEL if you have down pipes installed. Unless you remove the DPs as well. That's a pain!

Evolved · 01-23-2009, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyong

If you take out the piggy back or O2 sim before going in for service, won't the engine throw in a CEL if you have down pipes installed. Unless you remove the DPs as well. That's a pain!

I don't see why you would have to remove any exhaust related items. The only parts they could cause to fail would be an O2 sensor right?

dyong · 01-23-2009, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evolved

I don't see why you would have to remove any exhaust related items. The only parts they could cause to fail would be an O2 sensor right?

Yes. The O2 sensor will not work right on the catless DP.

My135 · 01-23-2009, 01:32 PM

I think people are worry too much here. I have not seen or heard any BMW dealer denied your free oil change if they saw a intake or catback exhaust mods on your car. Most service techs do not care what kind of mods on your car, they just want to finish the oil change and solicite you for more add on billable services.

B-M-W · 01-23-2009, 01:36 PM

i agree I'm talking more like engine problems.. (major) being denied

fmxomar · 01-23-2009, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My135

I think people are worry too much here. I have not seen or heard any BMW dealer denied your free oil change if they saw a intake or catback exhaust mods on your car. Most service techs do not care what kind of mods on your car, they just want to finish the oil change and solicite you for more add on billable services.

yeah i dont think anyone really cares about their oil change not being done lmao

320Devil · 02-09-2009, 07:37 PM

Just took out my Procede Rev II before I take the car in for it's 15k oil change tomorrow. It only took 30 minutes. While I'm getting the oil changed, should I get the new software update? I've never experienced any lag, but I would like to have the latest update available. Just worried that the new update will detect aftermarket tunes like my proceed even after it's un-installed. Advice appreciated.

Mad Dragon · 02-09-2009, 08:40 PM

You cannot simply request the latest software under warranty. There has to be a reason for it to be installed: recall, replaced control module, etc. If you want to pay the labor time for it (which could be several hours), that's a different story.

Quote:

Originally Posted by My135

Most service techs do not care what kind of mods on your car, they just want to finish the oil change and solicite you for more add on billable services.

And what kind of billable services can be solicited while the car is under warranty? I'll tell you: NONE. Add-ons on a warranty ticket are a great way to get your service dept audited by BMW.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmxomar

bmw wants to rape you out of their warranty, im pretty sure its standarad for them now to check the ecu and look for tunes even just going in for an oil change

A standard scope has always been part of an oil service on CBS cars. Whether or not the dealership takes action on a MAP manipulation fault, BMW is going to see it when FASTA data is transferred.

A flat rate tech isn't going to waste their time looking for piggybacks, unless there's a suspicious driveablilty complaint on the repair order. In that case, shame on Mr. Tuner for trying to defraud BMW. They knowingly violated the warranty; they can deal with the consequences.

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B-M-W New Member 1 Rep 20 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Copperopolis iTrader: (0)	Vishnu tuned warranty issue Anyone having bickering from BMW for warranty work with a piggy on your 135i's back? lol just wondering if they detect the tune easy or not if you obviously take it out before bringing her into the shop Intak exhaust any of these things causing issues for warranty?
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My135 Lieutenant Colonel 85 Rep 1,609 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	If I were you, I would remove it before any major engine related warranty repair service. Not need to worry about oil change, brake or warp rotor...etc. If you installed the piggy back ECU yourself, it should not take more than 30 minutes next time removing it. __________________ 7/08 135 Coupe, Crimson Red, 6 SP, Sport, Taupe Lette/Aluminum. Performance Mods: JB4 on Map 5, BMS DP Fix V3, Injen polished intake, AR Catless DP, Maddad resonated mid-pipes, aFe exhaust polished tips, ST Suspension Coil Over and Hotchkis front sway bar. Others: BMS OCC, BT Scanner, Mud Flap. Next Mods: AA Front Strut Brace.
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TunedM2C Brigadier General 829 Rep 4,190 Posts Drives: 2016 LBB M2 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Earth iTrader: (2)	The only mods you should keep on the car when taking it in for service are the fuzzy dice. All else should be removed.
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fmxomar Major 94 Rep 1,245 Posts Drives: bmw 135i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: san diego, ca iTrader: (15)	bmw wants to rape you out of their warranty, im pretty sure its standarad for them now to check the ecu and look for tunes even just going in for an oil change
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dyong Enthusiast 12 Rep 262 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 135i Coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (1)	If you take out the piggy back or O2 sim before going in for service, won't the engine throw in a CEL if you have down pipes installed. Unless you remove the DPs as well. That's a pain!
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My135 Lieutenant Colonel 85 Rep 1,609 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	I think people are worry too much here. I have not seen or heard any BMW dealer denied your free oil change if they saw a intake or catback exhaust mods on your car. Most service techs do not care what kind of mods on your car, they just want to finish the oil change and solicite you for more add on billable services. __________________ 7/08 135 Coupe, Crimson Red, 6 SP, Sport, Taupe Lette/Aluminum. Performance Mods: JB4 on Map 5, BMS DP Fix V3, Injen polished intake, AR Catless DP, Maddad resonated mid-pipes, aFe exhaust polished tips, ST Suspension Coil Over and Hotchkis front sway bar. Others: BMS OCC, BT Scanner, Mud Flap. Next Mods: AA Front Strut Brace.
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B-M-W New Member 1 Rep 20 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Copperopolis iTrader: (0)	i agree I'm talking more like engine problems.. (major) being denied
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320Devil Private First Class 3 Rep 132 Posts Drives: 08 135i, 17 X5M Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Estero, FL iTrader: (0)	Just took out my Procede Rev II before I take the car in for it's 15k oil change tomorrow. It only took 30 minutes. While I'm getting the oil changed, should I get the new software update? I've never experienced any lag, but I would like to have the latest update available. Just worried that the new update will detect aftermarket tunes like my proceed even after it's un-installed. Advice appreciated.
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