Whats up with the price ??? Or have I missed something ??

kevwrx · 03-01-2009, 03:35 AM

So we've decided to buy my wife a 135i convertible
We want a manual lemans blue. (Comes with the Msport pack)
There is one currently at a dealership in qld.
Anyways we go to Stillwells in South Yarra yesterday and I'm bowled over by the price we're given $94200.00.

How does a car with a list price (including GST) of $80809.00 become $94200.00 ???

Car is $80809.00 (thats FULL RETAIL)
Rego is around $600.00
Stamp duty is $4040.00
On my calculator that equals $85449.00

Please help me out here, have I missed something ??

Kind regards
Kev

Zuzu · 03-01-2009, 03:43 AM

I paid just over $93K back before the price hike in March 08 for similar specs as yours on my vert.

Dont forget metalic paint $$
M sport pack on 135 vert is not standard like coupe $$
Pro Nav (If you have) $$
Premium Sound (If you have) $$
Comfort Access (If you have) $$
Dealer delivery $$

All these will add 15 to 20 thousand to your standard retail price..

The car you are looking at sounds like its spec up by the price they are asking.

Furo125i · 03-01-2009, 03:44 AM

Hi Kev.. Grats on the decision to get the 135

have you included the options? +1 zuzu on met paint
by the way there's dealer delivery and also some $400 floor mats..

kevwrx · 03-01-2009, 03:52 AM

Thanks Guys
The full retail on the car is $80809.00, that includes the Msport pack and the blue tooth thingy, it's got no other options.

Remember though, that this is the FULL RETAIL price (they do discount dont they ??).
Is dealer delivery $10,000.00 ???

Zuzu · 03-01-2009, 04:00 AM

Just with the basic options you have mentioned (metalicpaint/M sport pack) on the BMW configurator it comes to $82,509..

What I forgot to add on was Stamp Duty which is rougly about $5,500 I think plus delivery and dealer charges which could add another $5000 depending on the dealer.

kevwrx · 03-01-2009, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuzu

Just with the basic options you have mentioned (metalicpaint/M sport pack) on the BMW configurator it comes to $82,509..

What I forgot to add on was Stamp Duty which is rougly about $5,500 I think plus delivery and dealer charges which could add another $5000 depending on the dealer.

I got the stamp duty equation wrong by about $2000.00, but I still cant see where the money is going. $5-6k for delivery is criminal.

wmj73 · 03-01-2009, 04:19 AM

Lux tax?

Zuzu · 03-01-2009, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kevwrx

$5-6k for delivery is criminal.

Very expensive car wash and detail..That is where you can beat the dealers price down..

WAY · 03-01-2009, 04:22 AM

Kev, you serious about buying this? I can get you a deal on BMWs. Just ask Taka. And I can't believe that you are getting a 1 series. Times must be tough huh? Haha.

bobbynoway · 03-01-2009, 04:28 AM

Correct me if Im wrong, luxury car tax is added after the rrp of car + options. Then the stamp duty is calculated based on that. Add about $5000 for dealer delivery, this part im not sure if gets added before or after stamp duty.
End of the day someone is making alot of money with all these tax on a tax.

sparoz · 03-01-2009, 04:29 AM

Are you sure there isn't any other options on the car? You might not want the options, but they might be on the car.

$80809 sounds like a list price with no option on a coupe including stamp duty and rego and delivery as well.

cmg4511 · 03-01-2009, 04:34 AM

According to the BMW configurator, the list price of a manual le mans blue vert is $82,500. On top of this you will pay around $2,500 in dealer charges plus around $700 on road cost. So if stamp duty is around $5,000, that makes the price around $91,000 so there must be some other options that you have overlooked.

FYI, for a demo silver msport 135i auto vert with just over 1,00km on the clock, I paid $80k drive away after driving a hard bargain. My advice is never, ever buy a brand new car. I have always bought demos and always saved thousands of dollars.

WAY · 03-01-2009, 04:37 AM

I would never, ever buy a demo but gee wiz that is a bargain!

Zuzu · 03-01-2009, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by WAY

I would never, ever buy a demo but gee wiz that is a bargain!

+1 Wayne

sparoz · 03-01-2009, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cmg4511

I have always bought demos and always saved thousands of dollars.

Only if there's one available!! They are hard to find these days...

cmg4511 · 03-01-2009, 05:08 AM

Yes it was a great price. They had it listed for $84,900 plus statutory charges. Ater much bargaining I offered them $80K to drive away right there and then and they accepted. I got it during the recent BMW Xpo and they were desparate to shift cars and far as I can see nothing much has changed. Personally, I lurrrrv demos. Over the last 8 years, I have only bought demos including a 135i vert, X5 3.0d, 323i and an Audi tt quattro vert. On each purchase I have saved over $10K.

DRMAT · 03-01-2009, 10:07 PM

It's a BMW Kev.... EVERYTHING is an option!

BMW86 · 03-02-2009, 03:18 AM

Dealer charges usually cost big $$$

Lester · 03-02-2009, 09:13 AM

How much do you guys earn in AU$ to afford prices like this? Are you all running drugs and weapons? :-)

sparoz · 03-02-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lester

How much do you guys earn in AU$ to afford prices like this? Are you all running drugs and weapons? :-)

Just drugs :P

wmj73 · 03-02-2009, 07:03 PM

weapons personally

Zuzu · 03-02-2009, 08:08 PM

Just Running...

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kevwrx Internationally Renouned Skidologist 2 Rep 53 Posts Drives: 135i convert/Lambo Gallardo Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sandown iTrader: (0)	Whats up with the price ??? Or have I missed something ?? So we've decided to buy my wife a 135i convertible We want a manual lemans blue. (Comes with the Msport pack) There is one currently at a dealership in qld. Anyways we go to Stillwells in South Yarra yesterday and I'm bowled over by the price we're given $94200.00. How does a car with a list price (including GST) of $80809.00 become $94200.00 ??? Car is $80809.00 (thats FULL RETAIL) Rego is around $600.00 Stamp duty is $4040.00 On my calculator that equals $85449.00 Please help me out here, have I missed something ?? Kind regards Kev Last edited by kevwrx; 03-01-2009 at 04:11 AM..
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Zuzu Major General 2816 Rep 7,637 Posts Drives: M2C HS 6MT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sydney Australia iTrader: (0)	I paid just over $93K back before the price hike in March 08 for similar specs as yours on my vert. Dont forget metalic paint $$ M sport pack on 135 vert is not standard like coupe $$ Pro Nav (If you have) $$ Premium Sound (If you have) $$ Comfort Access (If you have) $$ Dealer delivery $$ All these will add 15 to 20 thousand to your standard retail price.. The car you are looking at sounds like its spec up by the price they are asking.
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kevwrx Internationally Renouned Skidologist 2 Rep 53 Posts Drives: 135i convert/Lambo Gallardo Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sandown iTrader: (0)	Thanks Guys The full retail on the car is $80809.00, that includes the Msport pack and the blue tooth thingy, it's got no other options. Remember though, that this is the FULL RETAIL price (they do discount dont they ??). Is dealer delivery $10,000.00 ???
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Zuzu Major General 2816 Rep 7,637 Posts Drives: M2C HS 6MT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sydney Australia iTrader: (0)	Just with the basic options you have mentioned (metalicpaint/M sport pack) on the BMW configurator it comes to $82,509.. What I forgot to add on was Stamp Duty which is rougly about $5,500 I think plus delivery and dealer charges which could add another $5000 depending on the dealer.
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WAY Brigadier General 458 Rep 4,822 Posts Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	Kev, you serious about buying this? I can get you a deal on BMWs. Just ask Taka. And I can't believe that you are getting a 1 series. Times must be tough huh? Haha.
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bobbynoway Private First Class 5 Rep 186 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	Correct me if Im wrong, luxury car tax is added after the rrp of car + options. Then the stamp duty is calculated based on that. Add about $5000 for dealer delivery, this part im not sure if gets added before or after stamp duty. End of the day someone is making alot of money with all these tax on a tax.
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cmg4511 New Member 1 Rep 11 Posts Drives: X1 23d, 525d Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	real price of 135i verts According to the BMW configurator, the list price of a manual le mans blue vert is $82,500. On top of this you will pay around $2,500 in dealer charges plus around $700 on road cost. So if stamp duty is around $5,000, that makes the price around $91,000 so there must be some other options that you have overlooked. FYI, for a demo silver msport 135i auto vert with just over 1,00km on the clock, I paid $80k drive away after driving a hard bargain. My advice is never, ever buy a brand new car. I have always bought demos and always saved thousands of dollars.
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cmg4511 New Member 1 Rep 11 Posts Drives: X1 23d, 525d Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	Demo cars Yes it was a great price. They had it listed for $84,900 plus statutory charges. Ater much bargaining I offered them $80K to drive away right there and then and they accepted. I got it during the recent BMW Xpo and they were desparate to shift cars and far as I can see nothing much has changed. Personally, I lurrrrv demos. Over the last 8 years, I have only bought demos including a 135i vert, X5 3.0d, 323i and an Audi tt quattro vert. On each purchase I have saved over $10K.
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