Euro Delivery

igom3 · 03-22-2009, 06:42 PM

I just got back from my dealer and they want $1000.00 over ED invoice. Fair deal? Need your input. Thanks

hbdunn2003 · 03-22-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by igom3

I just got back from my dealer and they want $1000.00 over ED invoice. Fair deal? Need your input. Thanks

I think so as long they don't try to add in any hidden profit.

(Higher MF, other fees)

1013mm · 03-22-2009, 07:15 PM

i got mine 500 over they can do AT LEAST 800....

igom3 · 03-22-2009, 07:17 PM

Well here is my deal

ED invoice $30675
Auto $1260.00
Space Gray $ 500.00
M Sport $1185.00
power seats $ 905
Shipping $775.00
MACO $300.00
Dealer Charge $1000.00
Total $36600
Financing rate 3.9 (now)

hbdunn2003 · 03-22-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by igom3

Well here is my deal

ED invoice $30675
Auto $1260.00
Space Gray $ 500.00
M Sport $1185.00
power seats $ 905
Shipping $775.00
MACO $300.00
Dealer Charge $1000.00
Total $36600
Financing rate 3.9 (now)

BMW does not charge the dealer MACO on an ED.

So that is one mistake.

Destination is $825 not $775.

Everything else is correct.

amdmaxx · 03-22-2009, 09:11 PM

What is MACO and MF fees?

hbdunn2003 · 03-22-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by amdmaxx

What is MACO and MF fees?

MACO is advertising fee but is not charged to the dealer for an ED order so you don't have to pay it.

Money factor is the interest used to compute leases.

Some deals that have a low profit ($500 over invoice) the dealer will add to the base MF to make extra profit.

The thing to make sure is that whatever you agree to over invoice that there is nothing extra being added on later.

1013mm · 03-22-2009, 09:30 PM

be sure to have them give you the OTD price as a print out.

igom3 · 03-22-2009, 09:53 PM

Thank you guy's

john08135i · 03-23-2009, 01:13 PM

WAIT.. get the SPORT PKG and USB... you will regret it if you dont..trust me on this

ptack · 03-23-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by john08135i

WAIT.. get the SPORT PKG and USB... you will regret it if you dont..trust me on this

Good catch. 135i without the sport package is like a Playboy issue without the centerfold.

enigma135 · 03-23-2009, 02:20 PM

I was just offered $200 over invoice if that helps.

Also hbdunn2003 are you positive that MACO is excluded from ED?

igom3 · 03-23-2009, 03:23 PM

Which dealer? And i did order M sport package if you are referring to me.

igom3 · 03-23-2009, 03:25 PM

BMWUSA European Delivery: Part 3
Sections: European Delivery, Sales/Marketing Mar 17th, 2008

In the previous parts of our series on the BMW European Delivery Program we introduced you to the program and its perks as well as what is included and the cost savings. So now that we have got you thinking more about the opportunity BMW is giving you with the European Delivery program we will help you out when it comes time to go to your dealer to get the process started.

You should plan to get the ball rolling on your order at least 3 months prior to the date you would like to take delivery at the Welt in Munich, Germany. This time frame is due to the fact your car is built to order and the added time for registration and other paperwork. As with any car purchase it is important to do your research on dealerships and pricing.

Some dealers will negotiate down to $1000 over Euro delivery wholesale price (invoice) and invoice pricing on options, which are the same as the US delivery prices and can be found on a variety of car pricing websites. You should also add the standard BMW destination charge to the car. There are NO additional fees; training, MACO, and advertising fees are not applicable to ED cars. Local fees for taxes, title, and license are separate, and vary by state. We have included a list of the current ED wholesale base prices for 1,3, and 5 series cars. Since the 1 is coming out of dealer allocation these numbers are not realistic but for the fall it may be more likely.

jose100fires · 03-23-2009, 10:47 PM

Perhaps I am not understanding what we are talking about here, but there is only one price for a ED car. No add ons, no mark ups, no dealer $ whatsoever. You should not pay extra for ED, and make sure that they charge you the correct MF if you are leasing. If they want you to pay a mark up for ED it's because the dealer doesn't get any money for an ED car. You can do an ED from any dealership in the country and then make your local dealer deliver it when it gets in, just to piss them off (ok, I may be wrong about that...but it would be nice if you can) Call Korosh at Rasmussen BMW in Portland, Or and he will gladly set up an ED for you, just like he did for me, without a mark up of any kind. Check out the ED forum on Bimerfest for the correct invoice prices.

Jose

1013mm · 03-23-2009, 11:44 PM

I guess he means hes trying to get the lowest price possible before they tack on the ed. if that makes sense.

enigma135 · 03-23-2009, 11:48 PM

Thanks igom3. Where is that taken from if you don't mind me asking.

So any opinions on the $200 over invoice offer?

hbdunn2003 · 03-23-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by enigma135

Thanks igom3. Where is that taken from if you don't mind me asking.

So any opinions on the $200 over invoice offer?

This is $200 over the ED invoice and not US delivery invoice?

Are all the options at invoice?

Is it a lease and if so are they only adding the .0003 ED adder to the MF?

There are no training or Maco fees added?

There is no doc fee over $50?

If so that is a very good deal.

enigma135 · 03-24-2009, 09:19 AM

The $200 is over ED Invoice, all options at invoice.

Not a lease.

I will get MACO fees dropped as i did with the training fee.

The doc fee is $100.

AchtungF80 · 03-24-2009, 10:15 AM

$1,000 over ED invoice was a good price 1 year ago today.
Try to get to invoice or close as possible!

InsaneSkippy · 03-24-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by achtungE30

$1,000 over ED invoice was a good price 1 year ago today.
Try to get to invoice or close as possible!

I remember that. I was SO happy to get 1k over invoice because it was basically unheard of back then (Except for Mr. Payne of course

)

igom3 · 03-24-2009, 11:40 AM

Well, i got another offer for $650.00 over the ED invoice. Floor mats included.

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1013mm aka 1013MM 1253 Rep 9,545 Posts Drives: pokingly flush Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles / HK iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [8.26]	be sure to have them give you the OTD price as a print out. __________________ -John Project YOSHI Sale Thread
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enigma135 Lieutenant 20 Rep 490 Posts Drives: 09 SG/Coral 135i Convertible Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bethesda, MD iTrader: (0)	I was just offered $200 over invoice if that helps. Also hbdunn2003 are you positive that MACO is excluded from ED?
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igom3 Major 76 Rep 1,147 Posts Drives: 02 E46M3 15 F80 M3 16 X5 35d Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1) Garage List 2016 X5 35d [0.00] 2015 BMW M3 [0.00] 2002 E46 M3 [0.00]	Euro delivery Which dealer? And i did order M sport package if you are referring to me.
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igom3 Major 76 Rep 1,147 Posts Drives: 02 E46M3 15 F80 M3 16 X5 35d Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1) Garage List 2016 X5 35d [0.00] 2015 BMW M3 [0.00] 2002 E46 M3 [0.00]	Euro Delivery BMWUSA European Delivery: Part 3 Sections: European Delivery, Sales/Marketing Mar 17th, 2008 In the previous parts of our series on the BMW European Delivery Program we introduced you to the program and its perks as well as what is included and the cost savings. So now that we have got you thinking more about the opportunity BMW is giving you with the European Delivery program we will help you out when it comes time to go to your dealer to get the process started. You should plan to get the ball rolling on your order at least 3 months prior to the date you would like to take delivery at the Welt in Munich, Germany. This time frame is due to the fact your car is built to order and the added time for registration and other paperwork. As with any car purchase it is important to do your research on dealerships and pricing. Some dealers will negotiate down to $1000 over Euro delivery wholesale price (invoice) and invoice pricing on options, which are the same as the US delivery prices and can be found on a variety of car pricing websites. You should also add the standard BMW destination charge to the car. There are NO additional fees; training, MACO, and advertising fees are not applicable to ED cars. Local fees for taxes, title, and license are separate, and vary by state. We have included a list of the current ED wholesale base prices for 1,3, and 5 series cars. Since the 1 is coming out of dealer allocation these numbers are not realistic but for the fall it may be more likely.
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jose100fires Private 10 Rep 94 Posts Drives: 135i/ Montego Blau Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon iTrader: (0)	What??? Perhaps I am not understanding what we are talking about here, but there is only one price for a ED car. No add ons, no mark ups, no dealer $ whatsoever. You should not pay extra for ED, and make sure that they charge you the correct MF if you are leasing. If they want you to pay a mark up for ED it's because the dealer doesn't get any money for an ED car. You can do an ED from any dealership in the country and then make your local dealer deliver it when it gets in, just to piss them off (ok, I may be wrong about that...but it would be nice if you can) Call Korosh at Rasmussen BMW in Portland, Or and he will gladly set up an ED for you, just like he did for me, without a mark up of any kind. Check out the ED forum on Bimerfest for the correct invoice prices. Jose
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1013mm aka 1013MM 1253 Rep 9,545 Posts Drives: pokingly flush Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles / HK iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [8.26]	I guess he means hes trying to get the lowest price possible before they tack on the ed. if that makes sense. __________________ -John Project YOSHI Sale Thread
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enigma135 Lieutenant 20 Rep 490 Posts Drives: 09 SG/Coral 135i Convertible Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bethesda, MD iTrader: (0)	Thanks igom3. Where is that taken from if you don't mind me asking. So any opinions on the $200 over invoice offer?
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enigma135 Lieutenant 20 Rep 490 Posts Drives: 09 SG/Coral 135i Convertible Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bethesda, MD iTrader: (0)	The $200 is over ED Invoice, all options at invoice. Not a lease. I will get MACO fees dropped as i did with the training fee. The doc fee is $100.
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