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      06-02-2009, 03:06 PM   #1
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Supersprint x-pipe - Thoughts?

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http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...DUCT_ID=980713

Would this be bolt on? I'm looking for something to give me a little more sound. Adding horsepower is less important, but I feel I need a little more rasp to my stock system and this seems like a cost effective way to get to where I want to be.

Being able to return to stock is my biggest concern as my car is leased. I could install this myself with a buddy providing its bolt on.

Edit: I would be trying to connect this to my stock exhaust system. Would this even fit?

What do you guys think? Thoughts would be appreciated.

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      06-02-2009, 03:11 PM   #2
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That is only part of the Supersprint x-pipe. There are other sections to it. The problem with their x-pipe is, it only ties into their rear exhaust section. If you look at that picture, it turns at the end instead of having a ball flange section like stock, or every other x-pipe. Basically, they want you to buy their whole system, just in many parts.

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I think it is a rip.... For less $, you can get the Fabspeed X Pipe which also replaces the secondary cats. Much better power gains and less $.
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I think it is a rip.... For less $, you can get the Fabspeed X Pipe which also replaces the secondary cats. Much better power gains and less $.
Where can I buy the fabspeed? Does that bolt up? I need something that can return to stock.

Edit: Nevermind, found the fabspeed thread and looks like cutting/welding is involved. Can anyone recommend on that bolts up?
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      06-02-2009, 04:31 PM   #5
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They all require cutting and welding. (including the Super Sprint) Unless you get the header back systems with high flow cats. (like I have). This replaces the primaries with super high flow HJS cats. No secondaries. No cutting. No welding. You gain a bunch of power and tone. No codes.


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Where can I buy the fabspeed? Does that bolt up? I need something that can return to stock.

Edit: Nevermind, found the fabspeed thread and looks like cutting/welding is involved. Can anyone recommend on that bolts up?
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The supersprint x pipe can be used on a stock rear muffler, but with connectors, very easy you should see their website

Tomorrow i will hear a full system of theirs .... Exited
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Where can I buy the fabspeed? Does that bolt up? I need something that can return to stock.

Edit: Nevermind, found the fabspeed thread and looks like cutting/welding is involved. Can anyone recommend on that bolts up?
I think there are others that bolt on...

Gintani
Active Autowerke
Encore
Riss Racing
Probably others

Do some research on the above, but I know there are a few that bolt on without any cutting, etc. Some have High Flow primary cats, some have no cats. You WILL get a check engine light if you eliminate the cats and do not have an O2 simulator. From what I have heard, the models with the high flow cats are efficient enough to NOT set off the check engine light.
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We've sold:
-Active AutoWerke
-Agency Power
-Riss Racing

The Agency Power is the only one that I'm not 100% sure about. It has bolt-on flanges at the headers but doesn't appear to ad the other end.

Hope this helps!
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You will need a full x-pipe of you need it to be bolt on. I suggest the Active Autoworke one.

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You will need a full x-pipe of you need it to be bolt on. I suggest the Active Autoworke one.

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+1 on the AA X-pipe.

Here is a photo of the AA X-pipe with Eisenmann Race performance. Full bolt on with no cutting. Keep in mind that you will need to run software with the most X-pipes.

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The Fabspeed Xpipe and high flow cats is a direct bolt on. I have no codes. It is also about a grand less than the AA setup.

Is there one good reason why someone would spend a grand more for a setup that does set codes?

Fabspeed X Pipe = no cutting or welding, no codes. $2295 including cats

AA Xpipe = no cutting or welding, but confirmed codes. $1995 with no cats. Cats are about $1200 extra as originally quoted.

Fabspeed uses HJS 200 cell tri metal cats. These are very pricey but uber efficient. No codes. I have had mine for 2 months and I drive everyday.
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Does the Fabspeed use the factory style flanges to the headers, that re-use the stock donut gasket? I had to have this, and from my research, AA was one of the only ones that did this. I am not sure on the Fabspeed pipes though. Also, I got the AA pipes w/ high flow cats used, for cheaper than the Fabspeed.

I have not had any CEL yet with the AA pipes and high flow cats. I have probably driven a good 200-250 miles. Hopefully one does not pop up.

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Plus the AA pipes us a v-band connection mid way, which I like. Some others use slip fit, which is hard to swap out if wanted, and some use 3 bolt flanges, which can leak.

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      06-02-2009, 08:02 PM   #14
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Andy, stock header attachment and oem style flange on the connecting pipe connectors. Did you get your setup used? Hope you don't get a code. Let us know!
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The supersprint x pipe can be used on a stock rear muffler, but with connectors, very easy you should see their website

Tomorrow i will hear a full system of theirs .... Exited
Today i went to take a ride along with somebody who has a full supersprint line and chip ... I can't believe it, the noise is like music to my ears and the power is awsome ... i thougt a stock m 3 pulls hard in the high RPM, but that one

You got to love supersprint, no question
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Well I orderd the Encore Innovation X-pipe but last post about it said I need to send it back as Encore is fixing the flanges to mate up correctly. I hope and wonder if anyone has had any CEL since install with the EI x-pipe?? If so I might have to return it all before I install it and get the Fabspeed system as I really don't want to deal with any CEL but want the entire exhaust system. Anyone with Encore Innovations X-pipe/high flow CATs have had any CEL issues since install?

For the OP, I think from what I'v read so far, either the Fabspeed system or Encore x-pipe systems sound optimul, if you don't want any CEL. As long as both don't through codes that is.
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Why not just got to a muffler shop and cut the section off. It would be around 90 and the same result!
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You can't return that to stock.

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Of course you can. You just welled back the resonator. I have done this on my last car.
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I guess you could, but it is a little harder, and would look like you welded something back on. I guess that is not your problem though, if it is getting traded in!

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True was just giving an opinion...
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^ My tech (who is a friend of mine) said no welding.
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