Riss Racing Axle-Back Exhaust Released!

LateBraking · 06-05-2009, 06:35 PM

Disregard title, this is still in its somewhat final test stages. I got the first one of their finalized versions, and boy does it sound amazing. It looks good too, I like their new unique design over their old one. I'll be making a comparison video of this soon. The exhaust itself should be out for everyone else Tuesday or Wednesday.

I'm testing this finalized version over the weekend first, but essentially we were just test-fitting this on my car, and almost everything came out okay. Just need to tweak fitment a tiny bit, which was why we were testing it on my car over the weekend before handing out everyone else's, eh?

Patience, I promise it'll be worth it everyone!

I can't organize my thoughts right now, since I only got 3 hours of sleep last night, combined with my newfound giddyness and adrenaline after this initial drive. This thing looks fantastic, and sounds fantastic. Car sounds a lot more aggressive, and feels like it's taken on a whole new personality. Butt dyno also feels a slight pickup when getting on the throttle at lower RPM's, though I wouldn't say it's a huge difference.

It's noticeably louder, but not so much that it'll make people's ears bleed. The car has a beautiful bass tone to it when accelerating smoothly, but once you get on the throttle, and once you let go of the throttle, on the engine's run down, it just sounds so mean. Has a slight bit of drone, but with the windows up, driving at around 3k, it isn't too bad.

You know, I can't really describe it in text, and I don't have my friend's video camera on me right now, so, I'm really sorry. If you REALLY want to hear it though, I'm in Irvine. Just PM me, and if I have free time, well, we'll see what happens.

EDIT/UPDATE: There was a bit of droning (though I think the issue got exaggerated a bit in this thread. It wasn't as bad as Eisenmann or anything), so I took this along with feedback to Riss Racing. They then proceeded to redesign the muffler and pipes, and took care of whatever fitment issues were present. There shouldn't be any problem with the final release version that is shipping out. Just thought I'd let everyone know.

MrHarris · 06-05-2009, 07:52 PM

That's awesome. I hope I'm scheduled for tomorrow.

LateBraking · 06-05-2009, 08:00 PM

Hold your horses there, fitment still needs a wee bit o tweakins.

AMPowerJ · 06-05-2009, 09:19 PM

Any annoying drone? This is likely the exhaust I am going to purchase for my E90 if everything checks out.

novablackm3 · 06-05-2009, 09:33 PM

hmm mine got shipped out today and scheduled for delivery by next thursday, i wonder if i will have fitment issues. can you be a bit more specific

LateBraking · 06-05-2009, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMPowerJ

Any annoying drone? This is likely the exhaust I am going to purchase for my E90 if everything checks out.

A wee bit of drone. Think of it as a Eisenmann Race Mild. Doesn't drone quite as much as an Eisenmann Race, but isn't quite as loud as one either. Definately loud though. Can't compare it to Eisenmann Sport-haven't heard one of those before. If you're cruising at around 3k, and holding it steady, with the windows up, you can't really notice it. I'll do some freeway testing tonight, and come back with a more firm answer-I was doing all local driving, and cruising at 70-80 in Irvine local to do drone testing is a tad difficult.

Are you sure yours shipped out today Nova? You might have a small issue with then hangar fitment. I think we were supposed to work that out tomorrow, then proceed to correct it on all the other mufflers.

novablackm3 · 06-05-2009, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBeJayKaying

A wee bit of drone. Think of it as a Eisenmann Race Mild. Doesn't drone quite as much as an Eisenmann Race, but isn't quite as loud as one either. Definately loud though. Can't compare it to Eisenmann Sport-haven't heard one of those before. If you're cruising at around 3k, and holding it steady, with the windows up, you can't really notice it. I'll do some freeway testing tonight, and come back with a more firm answer-I was doing all local driving, and cruising at 70-80 in Irvine local to do drone testing is a tad difficult.

Are you sure yours shipped out today Nova? You might have a small issue with then hangar fitment. I think we were supposed to work that out tomorrow, then proceed to correct it on all the other mufflers.

yeah i got a tracking number that says shipped, i'll call anthony monday hopefully i got one that was fixed ...

LateBraking · 06-05-2009, 10:16 PM

If not, I know Riss is really good about taking care of any potential problems, rest easy.

Plus, my car is on the sacrificial altar for all of your guys' cars' safety.

AMPowerJ · 06-05-2009, 10:27 PM

Thanks for the response. Please post pics/videos ASAP.

AMPowerJ · 06-06-2009, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBeJayKaying

*Ahem.* The exhaust does drone at 2.7k-3.3k RPM. I fiddled around a bit on the freeway and tested this. The exhaust is indeed quite loud. And the exhaust still makes a beautiful bass tone, and still sounds aggressive.

Arrghhh. Thanks for your honest feedback. This is likely a show stopper for me though. I can't deal with drone anymore. Been there and done that. Especially in that RPM range where you live on the highway.

MMMorish · 06-06-2009, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMPowerJ

Arrghhh. Thanks for your honest feedback. This is likely a show stopper for me though. I can't deal with drone anymore. Been there and done that. Especially in that RPM range where you live on the highway.

+1

RRGOO7 · 06-06-2009, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMPowerJ

Arrghhh. Thanks for your honest feedback. This is likely a show stopper for me though. I can't deal with drone anymore. Been there and done that. Especially in that RPM range where you live on the highway.

+5000.....I love good sounding exhausts but just cant deal with the drone. Call me a Grandpa but I need the cabin to be as close to stock as possible

powertrip · 06-06-2009, 12:56 PM

+4 I guess

....I really want an axle back, but don't want the drone either. I'm thinking about just sticking with my Fabspeed X-pipe & stock exhaust. Great performance and zero drone

.

LateBraking · 06-06-2009, 01:44 PM

Well, they wanted me to provide feedback for it, I'll mention this when I go in.

novablackm3 · 06-08-2009, 09:54 AM

any updated pics?

LateBraking · 06-08-2009, 02:36 PM

Sorry, I have some stuff to deal with, I promise I'll get more on this once I have some free time. Also, trying to get my friend to finish editing and uploading the vid: we already finished recording. PM Adam if you can't wait, he took pics of the car.

Trying to take it in to their shop tomorrow once I'm free.

LateBraking · 06-08-2009, 06:13 PM

Sorry it isn't too great. I was rushed and just ran out, filmed, then had my friend compile and upload. But, it's all I have time for right now, so please just bear with it. You can tell the second half is rushed, and I apologize.

[u2b]<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/zp-uWWwOvYk&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/zp-uWWwOvYk&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>[/u2b]

DrKevM5 · 06-08-2009, 08:12 PM

Wow...that may be too loud for my tastes. Sounds louder than Eisenmann race.

powertrip · 06-08-2009, 08:40 PM

That sounds very nice

.

MrHarris · 06-08-2009, 10:54 PM

Why does that sound so damn loud now compared to the original videos. Perhaps more power in exchange for more sound/drone?

swamp2 · 06-08-2009, 10:57 PM

Sounds way too low pitched and "American muscle" to me. I prefer the sound of the flat plane crank Italian V8s, higher pitched and more raspy.

dvpouldar26 · 06-09-2009, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamp2

Sounds way too low pitched and "American muscle" to me. I prefer the sound of the flat plane crank Italian V8s, higher pitched and more raspy.

I prefer the flat planed high pitch crank sounds too, but you can never make a cross-planed crank engine sound like a flat plane crank. It isn't physically possible. In a flat plane cranked engine, the engine fires twice within the 4 strokes because there are 2 banks of cylinders in a 180degrees phase of eachother, while in a cross plane, like in most cars, the spark plugs only fire once within 4 strokes. A flat plane cranked engine, for example a v8, is "essentially" 2 4 cylinders engines in mated in a v- formation.

06-05-2009, 06:35 PM	#1
LateBraking Brigadier General 326 Rep 3,882 Posts Drives: Relatively Quick. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.S.A. iTrader: (27)	Riss Racing Axle-Back Exhaust Almost Released! Disregard title, this is still in its somewhat final test stages. I got the first one of their finalized versions, and boy does it sound amazing. It looks good too, I like their new unique design over their old one. I'll be making a comparison video of this soon. The exhaust itself should be out for everyone else Tuesday or Wednesday. I'm testing this finalized version over the weekend first, but essentially we were just test-fitting this on my car, and almost everything came out okay. Just need to tweak fitment a tiny bit, which was why we were testing it on my car over the weekend before handing out everyone else's, eh? Patience, I promise it'll be worth it everyone! I can't organize my thoughts right now, since I only got 3 hours of sleep last night, combined with my newfound giddyness and adrenaline after this initial drive. This thing looks fantastic, and sounds fantastic. Car sounds a lot more aggressive, and feels like it's taken on a whole new personality. Butt dyno also feels a slight pickup when getting on the throttle at lower RPM's, though I wouldn't say it's a huge difference. It's noticeably louder, but not so much that it'll make people's ears bleed. The car has a beautiful bass tone to it when accelerating smoothly, but once you get on the throttle, and once you let go of the throttle, on the engine's run down, it just sounds so mean. Has a slight bit of drone, but with the windows up, driving at around 3k, it isn't too bad. You know, I can't really describe it in text, and I don't have my friend's video camera on me right now, so, I'm really sorry. If you REALLY want to hear it though, I'm in Irvine. Just PM me, and if I have free time, well, we'll see what happens. EDIT/UPDATE: There was a bit of droning (though I think the issue got exaggerated a bit in this thread. It wasn't as bad as Eisenmann or anything), so I took this along with feedback to Riss Racing. They then proceeded to redesign the muffler and pipes, and took care of whatever fitment issues were present. There shouldn't be any problem with the final release version that is shipping out. Just thought I'd let everyone know. Last edited by LateBraking; 06-11-2009 at 07:59 PM..
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

06-05-2009, 07:52 PM	#2
MrHarris yodog 197 Rep 5,025 Posts Drives: '86 Corolla Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Diamond Bar, Ca iTrader: (5) Garage List 2009 BMW [10.00]	That's awesome. I hope I'm scheduled for tomorrow. __________________ 2009 E92 M3 \| Alpine White \| Black Extended \| Advan RS \| Turner Test Pipes \| Dinan Axle-Back \| OETuning \| Eibach Springs \| UUC SSK \| VRS Front Lip \| VRS Type I Diffuser \| Matte Black \| RPi Scoops \| MS Filter \| Yokohama AD08 \| F1 Pinnacle Special Thanks: Gintani \| OETuning \| eAs
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-05-2009, 08:00 PM	#3
LateBraking Brigadier General 326 Rep 3,882 Posts Drives: Relatively Quick. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.S.A. iTrader: (27)	Hold your horses there, fitment still needs a wee bit o tweakins.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-05-2009, 09:19 PM	#4
AMPowerJ One mod leads to another ... 416 Rep 2,900 Posts Drives: 2014 F10 M5 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Blythewood, SC iTrader: (10)	Any annoying drone? This is likely the exhaust I am going to purchase for my E90 if everything checks out. __________________ Current: 2014 F10 M5 Previous: 2015 F80 M3, 2013 E92 M3, 2013 F10 M5, 2009 E90 M3, 1998 E36 M3
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-05-2009, 09:33 PM	#5
novablackm3 Captain 125 Rep 813 Posts Drives: Performante, G05 M50i, RR SVR Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (3)	hmm mine got shipped out today and scheduled for delivery by next thursday, i wonder if i will have fitment issues. can you be a bit more specific __________________ Huracán Performante 18- Novitec Springs \| RR SVR 19 \| G05 X5 M50i \| E70 11 X5M retired \| Jerez Black E92 10 m3 RE SSK \| AFE Filter \| Fabspeed XFC / Xpipe \| AA ECU 1.5v \| BMW PSW \| Envy Charger \| Megan Exhaust
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-05-2009, 10:16 PM	#8
LateBraking Brigadier General 326 Rep 3,882 Posts Drives: Relatively Quick. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.S.A. iTrader: (27)	If not, I know Riss is really good about taking care of any potential problems, rest easy. Plus, my car is on the sacrificial altar for all of your guys' cars' safety.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-05-2009, 10:27 PM	#9
AMPowerJ One mod leads to another ... 416 Rep 2,900 Posts Drives: 2014 F10 M5 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Blythewood, SC iTrader: (10)	Thanks for the response. Please post pics/videos ASAP. __________________ Current: 2014 F10 M5 Previous: 2015 F80 M3, 2013 E92 M3, 2013 F10 M5, 2009 E90 M3, 1998 E36 M3
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-06-2009, 12:56 PM	#13
powertrip Scared money don't make money. 67 Rep 1,448 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (3) Garage List 2009 E92 M3 [0.00]	+4 I guess ....I really want an axle back, but don't want the drone either. I'm thinking about just sticking with my Fabspeed X-pipe & stock exhaust. Great performance and zero drone . __________________ 2009 E92 M3/DCT/Alpine White/Fox Red/Carbon Leather OE Tuned 402 whp & 303 wtq/Gintani X-pipe/MXP Axle Back/Rogue Pulley/AFE Stage 2/Cosmetics By IND & EAS HUGE THANKS: Gintani, OE Tuning, and EAS
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-06-2009, 01:44 PM	#14
LateBraking Brigadier General 326 Rep 3,882 Posts Drives: Relatively Quick. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.S.A. iTrader: (27)	Well, they wanted me to provide feedback for it, I'll mention this when I go in.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-08-2009, 09:54 AM	#15
novablackm3 Captain 125 Rep 813 Posts Drives: Performante, G05 M50i, RR SVR Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (3)	any updated pics? __________________ Huracán Performante 18- Novitec Springs \| RR SVR 19 \| G05 X5 M50i \| E70 11 X5M retired \| Jerez Black E92 10 m3 RE SSK \| AFE Filter \| Fabspeed XFC / Xpipe \| AA ECU 1.5v \| BMW PSW \| Envy Charger \| Megan Exhaust
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-08-2009, 02:36 PM	#16
LateBraking Brigadier General 326 Rep 3,882 Posts Drives: Relatively Quick. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.S.A. iTrader: (27)	Sorry, I have some stuff to deal with, I promise I'll get more on this once I have some free time. Also, trying to get my friend to finish editing and uploading the vid: we already finished recording. PM Adam if you can't wait, he took pics of the car. Trying to take it in to their shop tomorrow once I'm free.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-08-2009, 06:13 PM	#17
LateBraking Brigadier General 326 Rep 3,882 Posts Drives: Relatively Quick. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.S.A. iTrader: (27)	Sorry it isn't too great. I was rushed and just ran out, filmed, then had my friend compile and upload. But, it's all I have time for right now, so please just bear with it. You can tell the second half is rushed, and I apologize. [u2b]<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/zp-uWWwOvYk&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/zp-uWWwOvYk&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>[/u2b]
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-08-2009, 08:12 PM	#18
DrKevM5 Colonel 2275 Rep 2,523 Posts Drives: G05 X5, F87 M2 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Western NY iTrader: (7)	Wow...that may be too loud for my tastes. Sounds louder than Eisenmann race.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-08-2009, 08:40 PM	#19
powertrip Scared money don't make money. 67 Rep 1,448 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (3) Garage List 2009 E92 M3 [0.00]	That sounds very nice . __________________ 2009 E92 M3/DCT/Alpine White/Fox Red/Carbon Leather OE Tuned 402 whp & 303 wtq/Gintani X-pipe/MXP Axle Back/Rogue Pulley/AFE Stage 2/Cosmetics By IND & EAS HUGE THANKS: Gintani, OE Tuning, and EAS
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-08-2009, 10:54 PM	#20
MrHarris yodog 197 Rep 5,025 Posts Drives: '86 Corolla Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Diamond Bar, Ca iTrader: (5) Garage List 2009 BMW [10.00]	Why does that sound so damn loud now compared to the original videos. Perhaps more power in exchange for more sound/drone? __________________ 2009 E92 M3 \| Alpine White \| Black Extended \| Advan RS \| Turner Test Pipes \| Dinan Axle-Back \| OETuning \| Eibach Springs \| UUC SSK \| VRS Front Lip \| VRS Type I Diffuser \| Matte Black \| RPi Scoops \| MS Filter \| Yokohama AD08 \| F1 Pinnacle Special Thanks: Gintani \| OETuning \| eAs
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-08-2009, 10:57 PM	#21
swamp2 Lieutenant General 611 Rep 10,407 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA iTrader: (3)	Sounds way too low pitched and "American muscle" to me. I prefer the sound of the flat plane crank Italian V8s, higher pitched and more raspy.
	Appreciate 0 Quote