Those with idle valve replace, please state your mileage

JCtx · 09-03-2009, 07:33 PM

Please state mileage at the beginning of your post. Then make any other comments about your experience (if you want

).

My questions related to this issue are a few, if somebody cares to comment:

1- Is this something that might happen, or will happen with enough miles? Does anybody know EXACTLY what part of the valve is failing? Is it something that can be prevented by removing those parts and look for debris before they fail?

2- Does it get to a point it's not safe to use the car anymore? Having to wait days or weeks for the stupid valve is retarded IMO, especially when it's a well known issue.

3- Does anybody have a VIN range of potentially affected cars? If I remember correctly, the TSB (or whatever BMW calls it) didn't have that info.

4- Is the new valve being replaced a REDESIGNED one, or the same potentially flawed valve?

Thank you for your help gang.

Space Ghost · 09-03-2009, 07:42 PM

check this post for some info: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...5&postcount=30

Sorry dont know how to make it link.

JCtx · 09-03-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Space Ghost

check this post for some info: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...5&postcount=30

Thanks for your help with the 11.5K figure buddy

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I've read that link before, by the way, but that was out of the book. He had never seen one up to that point to throw his $0.02. Also wonder what exactly that valve does. It doesn't make sense that an 'idle' valve has any effect after the butterflies open, but the 'limp' mode (reduced performance) implies otherwise. If it was only idle related, car would idle bad, but run fine above idle, no?

I started this thread to have a better idea when I might see this problem. So far all cases I've learned about happened above 10K miles, which I might never see before warranty expires. But that's only a few. Tired attaching a poll after the fact, but couldn't do it. Oh well. Take care.

aus · 11-12-2009, 02:26 PM

Mine went bad around 8,500.

Labrada_Exoticz · 11-12-2009, 02:40 PM

Mine went bad around 10,000 and now it happened again at 16,500, I guess they didn't fix it right last time.

H Bomb · 11-12-2009, 10:59 PM

i bought my car used with 9,723 miles on it but mine was replaced at 8,484 miles according to the BMW service history report i had them get for me

this was the info on the report, hope it helps. sorry i don't have more info i only have the car since end of sept

claim date
7/2/09

defect code
1341011500 idle regulating valve permanent malfunction

JCtx · 11-12-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by knext21

I guess they didn't fix it right last time.

To me it means BMW hasn't fixed the darn problem, and are just throwing another potentially bad valve in. That's why I hope my car craps out when all those old valves are gone

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Thank you for your replies folks. I still think the failure rate is fairly low, but it's hard to tell. Just hope the car is drivable (6MT here) if it happens, as over 90% of its use is on trips. Take care.

DevJ · 11-12-2009, 11:41 PM

How'd you know your valve went bad? came up on the idrive?

MMMorish · 11-13-2009, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevJ

How'd you know your valve went bad? came up on the idrive?

DevJ · 11-13-2009, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMMorish

Sometime people on this forum are so dumb.

No one knows everything about M's..this is the only thing I've ever asked because i haven't heard of it.

Nawaaz · 11-13-2009, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevJ

Sometime people on this forum are so dumb.

No one knows everything about M's..this is the only thing I've ever asked because i haven't heard of it.

Agreed.

No one's perfect.

aus · 11-13-2009, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevJ

How'd you know your valve went bad? came up on the idrive?

My engine sputtered on start up and then the dash turns into a christmas tree with all the warning. It ran fine, afterit started but the warning stayed for a while, but did go away after a few days. BUT, it was stored when the dealer scanned it.

gr8000 · 11-13-2009, 10:05 AM

Mine hit me on 25 June 09 when the car was exactly 12 months old with 22,100km on it. The dealer replaced the idle valve and the problem was fixed (fingers crossed). At present my M3 is 17 months old with 27,500km.

Here is a link with some stats that may be of interest:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280345

MMMorish · 11-13-2009, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevJ

Sometime people on this forum are so dumb.

No one knows everything about M's..this is the only thing I've ever asked because i haven't heard of it.

Dude, not for anything, but why are you calling me dumb for putting up the popcorn icon? I only put that up because I didn't know the answer to your question either and wanted to hear from the other forum members who knew the answer. Doesn't the popcorn icon stand for the fact that I'm watching this thread to see how it pans out?

Chill out!

XunXunDCT · 11-13-2009, 08:37 PM

I got it at 8700. Just had it replaced.. last week.

MrHarris · 11-13-2009, 08:58 PM

If this goes bad, anyone know if they can detect a tune and then void coverage?

John@BMW · 11-26-2009, 11:31 AM

im going on 19,000 miles and have NOT replaced it yet..... MY 05/08- Driven like it was stolen.

///V\3Dude · 11-26-2009, 10:15 PM

around 8-9k for me:-)

had to go in twice though,

but at 11.7k now and everything fine:-)

powertrip · 11-26-2009, 10:34 PM

Just had mine done at 13.5k miles. Only symptoms were occasional choppy throttle response and decreased power light.

JCtx · 11-26-2009, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powertrip

Just had mine done at 13.5k miles. Only symptoms were occasional choppy throttle response and decreased power light.

Hey, did the light go away upon restart the first time, like others report, or stayed on? And the 'reduced power' usually comes with a laundry list of other 'failures', like ABS, DSC, hill assist, etc., no? Thanks buddy.

Took my car for a 1K-trip a few days ago, and was afraid the stupid valve would fail when firing up the car at 14º in the morning, but fired up perfectly (whew!). Fuel mileage was bad enough at 17+ mpg; imagine with 'increased emissions'? But man, what a treat is to drive this car at high speeds; well worth the mileage penalty

.

powertrip · 11-27-2009, 12:06 AM

Hey JC,

It went away upon restart, but would appear again shortly. I only got two lights when it would happen: Reduced engine power and DSC malfunction. Hope that helps

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elp_jc

Hey, did the light go away upon restart, like others report, or stayed on? And the 'reduced power' usually comes with a laundry list of other 'failures', like ABS, DSC, hill assist, etc., no? Thanks buddy.

Sleeper519 · 11-27-2009, 12:24 AM

Mine went out right at 6k miles. Over a 2 week period, went from difficult cold start, to start in reduced-power mode with a plethora of warning lights on (brake, EDC, emission, engine, etc). Initially I could get it to restart in full power with only "check engine" light on AFTER it warmed up for ~5 min. But then later, a total crap out... Driving home in reduced power mode is a RPITA!

Dealer replaced idle valve under warranty, no prob. Did take an entire day though.

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JCtx Major General 258 Rep 5,012 Posts Drives: No BMW yet Join Date: May 2008 Location: El Paso TX iTrader: (0)	Those with idle valve replace, please state your mileage Please state mileage at the beginning of your post. Then make any other comments about your experience (if you want ). My questions related to this issue are a few, if somebody cares to comment: 1- Is this something that might happen, or will happen with enough miles? Does anybody know EXACTLY what part of the valve is failing? Is it something that can be prevented by removing those parts and look for debris before they fail? 2- Does it get to a point it's not safe to use the car anymore? Having to wait days or weeks for the stupid valve is retarded IMO, especially when it's a well known issue. 3- Does anybody have a VIN range of potentially affected cars? If I remember correctly, the TSB (or whatever BMW calls it) didn't have that info. 4- Is the new valve being replaced a REDESIGNED one, or the same potentially flawed valve? Thank you for your help gang.
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Space Ghost Captain 11 Rep 619 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA-PA iTrader: (5)	11.5k+ check this post for some info: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...5&postcount=30 Sorry dont know how to make it link.
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11-12-2009, 02:26 PM	#4
aus Major General 892 Rep 9,032 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	Mine went bad around 8,500. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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Labrada_Exoticz Subscribed 124 Rep 1,179 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami iTrader: (4)	Mine went bad around 10,000 and now it happened again at 16,500, I guess they didn't fix it right last time.
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H Bomb Lieutenant Colonel 65 Rep 1,676 Posts Drives: 08 M3 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: FL to NY iTrader: (4)	i bought my car used with 9,723 miles on it but mine was replaced at 8,484 miles according to the BMW service history report i had them get for me this was the info on the report, hope it helps. sorry i don't have more info i only have the car since end of sept claim date 7/2/09 defect code 1341011500 idle regulating valve permanent malfunction __________________ Street- 08 E92 M3- Sparkling Graphite/ Fox Red/6sp Track- 10 CRF 250-PR2 Race Motor/Ohlins TTX Susp Hauler- 06 Ford Skyjacker F250 4WD
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gr8000 Major 72 Rep 1,171 Posts Drives: E92 M3 - DCT Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, Greece iTrader: (0)	Mine hit me on 25 June 09 when the car was exactly 12 months old with 22,100km on it. The dealer replaced the idle valve and the problem was fixed (fingers crossed). At present my M3 is 17 months old with 27,500km. Here is a link with some stats that may be of interest: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280345
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