How About?

J08M3 · 09-28-2009, 09:23 AM

A supercharged 4.6L stroker in a E9x M3?

Or a Stroker V10?

Someone's gotta do or have this combo.....

J08M3 · 09-28-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PencilGeek

Both RD Sport and Dinan make a stroker V10 -- long before the stroker V8 was introduced..

Yes, I know.... hence my question of when's in gonna end up in a M3?

sales@ESSTuning · 09-28-2009, 10:34 AM

If a customer has a stoker kit and wanted to add our Supercharger we could custom tune it

KiokenM3 · 09-28-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rom3n

If a customer has a stoker kit and wanted to add our Supercharger we could custom tune it

that car would be vicious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

J08M3 · 09-28-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by KiokenM3

that car would be vicious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

uh huh!!

A lot of money to spend on a M3.... But it would be unique and a beast!

biglare · 09-29-2009, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rom3n

If a customer has a stoker kit and wanted to add our Supercharger we could custom tune it

That would be insane!

Lemans_Blue_M · 09-29-2009, 02:35 AM

Unless this Stroker engine + SC idea is done all at the same time...you would probably need to disassemble the stroker engine to retrofit lower compression pistons to avoid detonation during the tuning phase.

The M3 stroker engines typically have pistons /w/ a 12.5:1 compression ratio. (stock is 12:1)

It would be even more difficult to properly tune a forced induction system without lowering that compression ratio to at least 10.5:1. (9.5:1 would be even better)

From a performance standpoint, you're looking at 700-750 HP and 500-550 lb/ft TRQ.

Anyone driving a DCT car would immediately be disqualified from this discussion.

If someone does build one of these supercharged stroker engines, I'm not sure what you could do with all that power anyway.

It's highly unlikely the current chassis/suspension could support such lofty power & trq. numbers. Even with 305 rubber out back, hooking up all that power would be nearly impossible.

Yes, the idea SOUNDS really cool...but something like this would be totally impractical on the street.

Ask Robert about his traction problems when he really gets after it. (naturally aspirated)

I'm not even going to talk about the immense engine cooling hurdles that would have to be overcome in order to make this to work...

davedave · 09-29-2009, 02:39 AM

V10 Stroker + SC. it will be a Lambo killer

Green///Hell · 09-29-2009, 02:47 AM

I know of someone that is super serious about going this route and has possibly been preparing for this

J08M3 · 09-29-2009, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemans_Blue_M

Unless this Stroker engine + SC idea is done all at the same time...you would probably need to disassemble the stroker engine to retrofit lower compression pistons to avoid detonation during the tuning phase.

The M3 stroker engines typically have pistons /w/ a 12.5:1 compression ratio. (stock is 12:1)

It would be even more difficult to properly tune a forced induction system without lowering that compression ratio to at least 10.5:1. (9.5:1 would be even better)

From a performance standpoint, you're looking at 700-750 HP and 500-550 lb/ft TRQ.

Anyone driving a DCT car would immediately be disqualified from this discussion.

It's quite simple to build a stoker with less that 12.5:1 compression and easy to choose a MT car to do it on. There are many cars running around the street with over 700 HP, and when setup properly can handle it. Of course if you wanted you could sit there and broil the tires off with that much power, but you can do that now as well.

Eugene-TAIWAN · 09-29-2009, 07:54 AM

I wonder how the car will drive? especially in a race.

KiokenM3 · 09-29-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by davedave

V10 Stroker + SC. it will be a Lambo killer

sc alone would be a lambo killer

bigpuna · 09-29-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PencilGeek

I'm not sure about Dinan, but RD Sport sticks with 12.0:1 compression ratio.

Yes, traction is my biggest problem -- even with the NA stroker motor. If I disable traction control, I can pretty much break the tires loose in first and second gear -- simply by flooring it. And I already have 295's in the rear.

Boosting the RD sport at 12.0:1 is no problem i woul imagine.

sales@ESSTuning · 09-29-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PencilGeek

I'm not sure about Dinan, but RD Sport sticks with 12.0:1 compression ratio.

Yes, traction is my biggest problem -- even with the NA stroker motor. If I disable traction control, I can pretty much break the tires loose in first and second gear -- simply by flooring it. And I already have 295's in the rear.

Traction on our 700HP is not bad at all unless you want it to be

Supercharging a RD Sport stroker is not a problem we would need to do the supercharger install and testing.

DevJ · 09-29-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rom3n

Traction on our 700HP is not bad at all unless you want it to be

Supercharging a RD Sport stroker is not a problem we would need to do the supercharger install and testing.

Supercharging a stroked M3

FStop7 · 09-29-2009, 03:13 PM

I've driven a Mustang with the stock 302 stroked to 347 with a supercharger (Procharger D1). It was... fast. Very fast. Way into the 10 second 1/4 mile range. Making around 9:1 compression with lots of boost.

No reason to think a stroked M3 couldn't be built in a similar fashion.

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