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      09-29-2009, 03:46 PM   #1
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Delivery delay: 2010 Z4 s35i not yet EPA cleared

My Z4 s35i arrived at Brunswick Saturday and should have been at the dealers today or arriving tomorrow... But my CA checked with the VPC this AM 1000 EDT and was informed that the 2010 s35i is not yet released/cleared/approved by EPA for sale in US and so will stay at the VPC until it is.

2010 s30i is cleared. 2009 s35i also cleared. But not yet the 2010 s35i model.

"One to two weeks" is the anticipated delay, "more likely one week." But sales manager at dealership said he'd heard through a BMW channel that the hold would be cleared almost immediately.

I'm probably the test case on this one and will keep status posted as this moves forward.
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My Z4 s35i arrived at Brunswick Saturday and should have been at the dealers today or arriving tomorrow... But my CA checked with the VPC this AM 1000 EDT and was informed that the 2010 s35i is not yet released/cleared/approved by EPA for sale in US and so will stay at the VPC until it is.

2010 s30i is cleared. 2009 s35i also cleared. But not yet the 2010 s35i model.
Blimey is it that different to the 2009 model year? Do they have to clear _every_ model _every_ year?
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      09-29-2009, 06:01 PM   #3
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This be news page. Editorial section follows....
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My Z4 s35i arrived at Brunswick Saturday and should have been at the dealers today or arriving tomorrow... But my CA checked with the VPC this AM 1000 EDT and was informed that the 2010 s35i is not yet released/cleared/approved by EPA for sale in US and so will stay at the VPC until it is.

2010 s30i is cleared. 2009 s35i also cleared. But not yet the 2010 s35i model.

"One to two weeks" is the anticipated delay, "more likely one week." But sales manager at dealership said he'd heard through a BMW channel that the hold would be cleared almost immediately.

I'm probably the test case on this one and will keep status posted as this moves forward.
Sorry you have to wait. Hope they get it cleared soon.
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Update

Am told my Z4 will be available for delivery at dealer '8 or 9 October,' so looks like the logjam has cleared.
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Good news Ducky!

Remind me - what were your colors and list of equipment?
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Good news Ducky!

Remind me - what were your colors and list of equipment?
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So yours will likely be one of the 2010's in the country?
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So yours will likely be one of the 2010's in the country?
Dunno.
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As of today, 2010 Z4s still being held at POE for California CARB clearance.
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So yours will likely be one of the 2010's in the country?

Wots the difference between the 2009...and the 2010 model
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Wots the difference between the 2009...and the 2010 model
This was posted at Bimmerfest on 5 October:

"Here's an update on the pending CARB certification. I contacted the California Air Resources Board by telephone a few minutes ago and was put in touch with a Mr. Joseph Salmingo who is the staff member assigned to BAYERISCHE MOTOREN WERKE AG for On-Road Certification. He admitted an error had been made with the Executive Order for the Z4 s35i in that it had been accidentally omitted from a group that was submitted and approved earlier. He indicated he had submitted the needed paperwork to correct the problem last week, and that it should be signed and the Certification in effect by the end of this week."

Rings true with story from my dealer.
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This was posted at Bimmerfest on 5 October:

"Here's an update on the pending CARB certification. I contacted the California Air Resources Board by telephone a few minutes ago and was put in touch with a Mr. Joseph Salmingo who is the staff member assigned to BAYERISCHE MOTOREN WERKE AG for On-Road Certification. He admitted an error had been made with the Executive Order for the Z4 s35i in that it had been accidentally omitted from a group that was submitted and approved earlier. He indicated he had submitted the needed paperwork to correct the problem last week, and that it should be signed and the Certification in effect by the end of this week."

Rings true with story from my dealer.
This aint answering my question!!!!
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This aint answering my question!!!!
OK. The 2009 Z4 is certified by the California CARB weenies. The 2010 Z4 is not.

And HD radio is standard on the 2010.
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OK. The 2009 Z4 is certified by the California CARB weenies. The 2010 Z4 is not.

And HD radio is standard on the 2010.
In english please !!!.....LOL
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OK. The 2009 Z4 is certified by the California CARB weenies. The 2010 Z4 is not.

And HD radio is standard on the 2010.
So it isn't the FED EPA holding you up, it's Calif?

What does your waiting timelime look like, that is, if they have given you a clue as to how long they'll screw with you?

Bummer!
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Off the topic. Once you get your car. Could you let us know if they are still offering great lease deals like the 2009s? My 2010 is scheduled to arrive port on 10/16. I know I've been waiting to get this car and the dealership I ordered it from did not take a deposit from me and even gave me a loaner 335i to drive around in until my car arrives. I just hope they will play ball nicely when it comes time to negotiate. The only reason why they gave me a loaner is because I told them that another dealership has a 2009 sitting in their lot with similar options and manual 6speed that I could pick up now if I wanted to with a great lease deal. And that I did not want to pay Avis for a rental until my car arrives. So they gave me a loaner in the mean time. That was nice of them. I was bummed that there was a scratch on the bumper and they said the whole bumper would need to be repainted for the 2009 one.
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first the feds and now the state of CA? sorry for the trouble
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Off the topic. Once you get your car. Could you let us know if they are still offering great lease deals like the 2009s?
Check out Ask A Dealer forum at Bimmerfest. October lease rates posted.
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OK. The 2009 Z4 is certified by the California CARB weenies. The 2010 Z4 is not.

And HD radio is standard on the 2010.
After thinking about it, I'll bet California Air Resources Board (CARB) regulators are trying to extort a "testing" or "permitting" fee from BMW before they let their 2010's in. After all, what's really changed in the regs or the car so why is CARB holding it up?

The way the state's financial situation is now days, they'll do anything. Now, many state control agencies such as CARB are funded by user fees, including charging other state agencies a user fee just for the privilege of being regulated.
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Check out Ask A Dealer forum at Bimmerfest. October lease rates posted.
Thanks for the link: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...=october+rates
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